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25th October 2004, 17:49 | #41 | Link |
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EQM V3 ULR
The results of my tests: Compressibility: about 16% higher than HVS Best and 0,2% higher than Jawor's 1CD QM. 4 different DVD sources compressed. All XviD settings: default Some scenes were encoded with resolution of 720x* and some resized to 640x* Av. bitrate 850-950 kb/s No additional AVS filters used. In my opinion it works really fine and is much better than previous ULR matrix. The picture is much cleaner. Download screens- updated Last edited by dr.Prozac; 26th October 2004 at 14:49. |
25th October 2004, 18:57 | #42 | Link |
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This version is performing really better than the previous.
Thanx for the screenshots (the .zip is broken) and for your feedback. Once the Soulhunter's Custom Quantization Matrices test will end i could "retouch" some of the V3 matrices (expecially the high bitrate ones).
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i had to repair it to see the screenshots but 1 is corrupted.
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What're you using to create the .zip file? (Windows i guess)
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26th October 2004, 20:45 | #47 | Link |
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Corrupted
I fixed it with winrar.
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26th October 2004, 23:41 | #49 | Link |
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I was able to download both correctly, although it took several times with the first one.
Look here bis besser, T0B1A5
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Maybe it's the server. Who knows?
@Tobias: I will PM you tomorrow with a LONG explanation...
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I made a DVD -> XViD copy of one of my DVD-9 R2 (PAL) movies yesterday following the guide located here
Using DGIndex (instead of DVD2AVI) VitrualDub 1.5.10 and VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.1 (for muxing AVI with AC3), I used latest (to my knowledge) XviD-1.0.2-29082004. As "Quantization type" I used MPEG (as it was recommended for higher bitrate), I guess I should have used your V3HR or VRUHR matrices now when I found out about them, right? I used bitrate 2400kbps (shows up as 2100 kb/s in GSpot v2.21). Which matrices would u recommend using with that kind of bitrate? And do you have any recommendations other then default settings when making XViD with that high bitrate? My other question is that my source was 720x576@25fps (PAL), in DGIndex when using the cropping feauture (to take away small black bars at top and bottom) I could crop 16x2 (16 at top and 16 at buttom) so it showed up as 720x544 (576-16*2=544). I guess the source is anamorphic DVD, so it uses 544 horizontal lines (and 720 vertical lines)? But when following the guide to keep original Aspect Ration of 1.85:1 (says on DVD-box) I would make 720/1.85 = 389 horizontal lines (after cropping), which is far less then original 544. To have a height that is a multiple of 8 I decided upon 392 horizontal lines (720/392 = 1.84:1). It all looks alright, but my question is that when encoding DVD to XViD (or DivX) you actually loose horizontal resoultion on anamorphic sources right? So transparency between DVD and XViD isn't possible? Last edited by XiOUS; 28th October 2004 at 14:01. |
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Make sure you crop using a mod16 x mod16 (or mod32 x mod16 if you want to be really safe) resolution. Correct me if I am full of baloney.
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An exact copy means you don't resize and use the Aspect Ratio correction within the codec configuration dialog. That procedure is called Anamorphic encoding. Use the forum search function for more info
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LoadPlugin("C:\DGDecode.dll") mpeg2source("H:\Tsam\tsam.d2v") crop(0,16,0,-16) lanczosresize(720,392) Ok to get AR 1.85 in original then horizontal resolution should be: x/576 = 1.85 -> x = 1066 with cropping (16x2) -> 1066/544 ~= 1.96 is the new AR. So to keep all horizontal lines (544, with black bars cropped) in original DVD then I should encode in resoultion 1066x544, like this:? Code:
LoadPlugin("C:\DGDecode.dll") mpeg2source("H:\Tsam\tsam.d2v") crop(0,16,0,-16) lanczosresize(1066,544) I guess there is no way to encode XViD or DiVX in anamorphic so that it's decoded like anamorphic DVD on DVD-player? Last edited by XiOUS; 28th October 2004 at 18:02. |
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If a PAL 720x576 source was converted to square pixels, it would not exceed 1024 pixels wide, so your 1050 and 1066 calculations are slightly off.
Also, if the source image is exactly 1.85:1, the vertical pixel count should be around 560 (to the nearest 16th pixel). More often than not however, I doubt that the source will be exactly 1.85:1. Cheers
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The way you computed 1066 is not correct. Let's use SeeMoreDigital numbers (PAR=1.77) If you don't crop, the resolution on playback would be: (1.77 * 576) x 576 ~= 1020x576 If you DO crop to 544 lines instead of 576, the resolution on playback becomes: (((720/544)*1.77)/1.5) * 544 x 544 ~= 850x544. And this is logic.. you have less columns because you have less lines (you got to keep the ratios right!). Hope it helps!
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PiXuS,
I have a link at the bottom of my "sig" that you may find helpful. But in essence, digital images on DVD's contain pixels not lines. In the case of an PAL DVD, as you know it contains 576 vertical pixels. 576 multiplied by 1.7777 (aka: 16:9) equals 1024 In the case of an NTSC DVD, it contains 480 vertical pixels. 480 x 1.7777 = 853.3333 Don't forget the above calcs are based on converting your "anamorhpic" source images to "square" pixelled images. Cheers
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Try not to get yourself bogged down with pixel to line conversions!
Sooner or later the digital to analogue (PAL/NTSC CRT display) element of the image chain will be gone and all we'll be left with is pixels! Do you have the new version of XviD-1.1.-127-13102004 and more importantly, its DSdec filter installed. If you have, then try playing these "pixel perfect" 720x576 and 720x480 anamorhpic encodes. They have been generated using my calculations and the same theory apply to cropped encodes! They've also been tested on Mpeg4/DVD stand-alone players that support the playback of anamorphic .AVI files. Cheers
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