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Old 17th June 2019, 13:58   #56601  |  Link
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Did you try MPC-BE or MPC-HC instead of Potplayer as Potplayer is known to have issues with madVR in some cases.Even though it is working fine in my system. I have MPC-HC, MPC-BE, Potplayer, Jriver MC and Zoom player installed in my two HTPCs. Every player is configured to use madVR and LAVfilters and I have all these players working fine with madVR. If one player has issues, any one of the other always works.
I haven't tried them now but I did try them when I decided media player in the beginning and I didn't quite like them but I might try them again if I can't solve my Potplayer+Madvr problem. But since Potplayer have been working fine for years I do think my problem is fixable somehow
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Old 17th June 2019, 14:11   #56602  |  Link
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It seems that 'Philips hue Sync' causes some presentation glitches. So far I've gotten no glitches when Hue Sync is turn off but I will test it a bit more before I'm sure it's fixed.
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Old 17th June 2019, 14:32   #56603  |  Link
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Hi, my player has been crashing lately when I try to play movies from my laptop connected via hdmi to my onkyo receiver, this is my madvr crash report:
Any thoughts on this? I can't even use MPC now
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Old 17th June 2019, 15:07   #56604  |  Link
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The attachments are still awaiting approval, so no one will be able to help with that. Maybe try another upload site and share links, then I am sure the experts here can help you.

It would be good if you shared your full setup as well.
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Old 17th June 2019, 16:13   #56605  |  Link
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Also, 8bit RGB 2160p60 is better quality than 12 bit YCbCr 4:2:2. This is not true if watching via a bluray player but it is when using madVR. I use 8bit RGB 2160p60 most of the time, over HDMI 2.0, on a LG C7 and now a C9.

HDMI 2.1 allows RGB 2160p120, which I am very much looking forward to when a GPU with HDMI 2.1 comes out.
You won't even need a new GPU.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14535...i-21-converter
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Old 18th June 2019, 08:17   #56606  |  Link
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Yeah, I've updated all my cables in the chain to 48Gbps versions too.
Why would you do that ? 18GB calbes are 100% capable of the requirements with HDMI 2.0b

48GB cables are intended for HDMI 2.1 (8K / 120hz)

Am I missing something ?
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Old 18th June 2019, 08:19   #56607  |  Link
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just use 2 cables.
was thinking exactly the same thing

2 cables from GPU (one to TV, other to Amp)

Or if the cable is long and you don't wanna run 2 cables, then you could use ARC from the TV to the Amp
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Old 18th June 2019, 08:21   #56608  |  Link
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Why would you do that ? 18GB calbes are 100% capable of the requirements with HDMI 2.0b

48GB cables are intended for HDMI 2.1 (8K / 120hz)

Am I missing something ?
I'm sure by the book you are correct...odd though, when I swapped the new cables in, my card recognized it as a brand new connection, and I had to redo all my nvidia settings...never seen that before swapping cables....
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Old 18th June 2019, 08:27   #56609  |  Link
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This definitely works, but it can be troublesome.

I have gotten used to it now, but you end up with a phantom 2nd screen which does not sound to problematic, but in reality it is a bit. For example you end up with 2nd screen off the main screen no matter what you do, so you cant snap to all corners as the 2nd screen that does not exist is always there. Had real issues at some points with how I powered things off, and it all going to a screen I could not get to.

I wanted to go back to Win 8, but that would not play nice at all due to this, so there is that as well.

I bought a live DP Adapter (PC to AMP) which seems to have helped things I reckon, but it was not as plain sailing as you think it will be.

I also cant get the TV output to work as I wanted either, ARC is a pain in the ass for some reason, it works but thew CEC always seemed to want to do its own thing when the TV or AMP went on and off, so yeah 2 cables does work, but it adds new problems, manageable but annoying in some ways.
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Old 18th June 2019, 08:45   #56610  |  Link
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I'm sure by the book you are correct...odd though, when I swapped the new cables in, my card recognized it as a brand new connection, and I had to redo all my nvidia settings...never seen that before swapping cables....
Me neither, that IS strange. Are they 'active cables' perhaps ? (or did you use a different HDMI port?)

That's only reasoning that would sense to me
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Old 18th June 2019, 11:24   #56611  |  Link
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This definitely works, but it can be troublesome.
my setup is PC via DP to monitor , via HDMI to Amp (Marantz SR6010)

Toslink from TV to Amp. Works flawless for me (But I only use ARC when I watch Netflix / Prime via the LG WEBOS app)
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was thinking exactly the same thing
2 cables from GPU (one to TV, other to Amp)
Or if the cable is long and you don't wanna run 2 cables, then you could use ARC from the TV to the Amp
Nah, got a HDMI and a DP, so one to TV and one from TV to amp via ARC. Good quality cables, so zero issues. Only twice as expensive as good Ultra high speed cables, so why not, hopefully won't need to upgrade them when I change the TV out many years from now.
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Old 18th June 2019, 11:31   #56613  |  Link
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Surely you can't get HD Audio with that setup tho ?
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Old 18th June 2019, 12:02   #56614  |  Link
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You are correct. Dolby TrueHD/Atmos and DTS-HD Master Audio/X are a no go. Only a temporary thing.. I don't mind.
Better to have the screen in 4K.. The image quality increase for lower quality 1080 animated content to 4K was surprising.. even encoding artifacts have been removed.. and all these post processing settings have been disabled.. Crazy.

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Old 18th June 2019, 13:35   #56615  |  Link
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Me neither, that IS strange. Are they 'active cables' perhaps ? (or did you use a different HDMI port?)

That's only reasoning that would sense to me
Same port, and not that I am aware of.
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This definitely works, but it can be troublesome.

I have gotten used to it now, but you end up with a phantom 2nd screen which does not sound to problematic, but in reality it is a bit. For example you end up with 2nd screen off the main screen no matter what you do, so you cant snap to all corners as the 2nd screen that does not exist is always there. Had real issues at some points with how I powered things off, and it all going to a screen I could not get to.
Place the extra screen in the corner of your main screen in the screen layout in Display Settings.

You wont ever be able to actually move anything to it, even your mouse, and it wont interfere with any window snapping.

As far as windows opening on it, well once you get them all back on your primary monitor that wont be a problem.

You could use something like VNC or Teamviewer temporarily to reclaim windows that are stuck on it for now.
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Thanks

Yeah tried all that.

For some reason nVidia and or Windows kept on moving the screen about, it seemed dependent on luck and certain drivers. Had real issues with KODI dropping to a small window etc and on and on.

I tried all the different apps, paid and free, a lot crashed or did not help at all, I am used to it now and it is manageable, at one point I was going to get a proper 4K amp, I think the Active DP adapter to the AMP helped.
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Old 18th June 2019, 15:33   #56618  |  Link
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Ideally, an 'audio-only display' should be a feature Microsoft adds to Windows.
I have no interest in changing my AVR so I would also need the dual output solution when I eventually upgrade to 4K.
From browsing forums, there are also some gamers that would like that in order to use gaming monitors along with an AVR for sound.
I guess it would not be difficult for MS to implement that.
Anyone know if it's possible to file a feature request with Windows' Insider Program?
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I did a lot of reading but it was a few months ago, there was lots of talk, but the majority basically says as long as you use HDMI/DP then just by design it will always send a video signal to support the audio.

There were threads talking about splitters, but in the end I think it is something that has to be endured just by design I am afraid.

"There is no way to transmit only audio data via HDMI.

The HDMI white paper (page 10) notes that the signal is sent in HDMI packets consisting of both audio and video. Despite all the pins, there are no separate audio and video signals, so there are also no HDMI A/V splitter cables.

https://www.hdmi.org/pdf/whitepaper/...aperv73(2).pdf
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Old 18th June 2019, 15:46   #56620  |  Link
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you can suggest features in the insider hub/feedback hub.

just write it here and i will copypaste it in.
i need a short summery and an optional description.

the category displays and graphics -> multi display is pretty accurate too.

i shouldn't write this myself for obvious reasons but feel free to create your own windows account you may need in insider account.

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HDMI with audio "only" is a normal feature. high end BD payer usual support this but you have to send an black 720p video or something like this with it microsoft should be able to handle all this without driver support. it's been done so it works.

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