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25th May 2009, 11:34 | #1202 | Link |
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what I personnaly would like to see is the ability to specify different SD/HD LUT's depending on the display...so no need to swap them on the fly when you switch displays.
HR will let you set different convergence settings depending on the display, and they have different names in the Windows Device Manager(HR identifies them through this). |
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if you like uber-smooth algos, maybe the Sony MotionFlow is your best option...as it seems to offer far better results than the competition(let alone PC software). on the VW200, the picture goes 24fps@120Hz then is displayed at 240Hz(the LCD panels run at 2X refresh rate)....your movies will look pretty darn smooth they also offer it in flat screens I think. |
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24 fps 25 fps 30 fps 60 fps The only way to get these equal is 600 hz |
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25th May 2009, 12:39 | #1208 | Link |
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you can't have a "one size fits all" in video, as you know...if you play 23.976/24/25/29.97/59.94, you'll have to play around w/ the refresh rate(+Reclock )
even MotionFlow won't let you do that. and interleaving to 600fps, then dither down to 60 sounds dubious tbh...anyway, I'm quite sure madshi won't like the sound of that. you can still interleave everything to 60fps, and hope for the best(or should I say: the worst). |
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the interpolation method i'm suggesting will create new frames (not copy existing ones) by calculating the difference between the next and the last frame and interpolating a new frame based on that information (exactly how motionflow stuff works) |
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25th May 2009, 12:49 | #1210 | Link |
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there's many ways to create new frames in ffdshow to whatever double framerate or simply 23.976@60...it looks ugly on fast movements.
I like double frame rate on slow videos indeed, some sort of GPU accelerated trimension would be great, but madshi has a pretty busy agenda...and mVR already puts slow GPU's on their knees apparently. Last edited by leeperry; 25th May 2009 at 16:59. |
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This sounds highly undesriable to me. All this will guarantee is that none of the real frames captured lovingly bythe filmaker make it onto your screen. I'm not even convinced by interpolating to 120Hz.
I just want something as close to cinema experience, i.e. straight forward double or triple shuttering of 24p stuff, that is until/if the film directors themselves decide it improves their art to move to a higher frame rate. So changing frame rates between 24p and 60Hz material will be a must for me for the forseeable future. |
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@madshi, yesgrey3
Here is a strange situation: PC1: WIN XP SP3 NET Framework 3.5 SP1 DIRECTX Redistributable March 2009 C2DUO 8400 ATI 4850 512MB Catalyst 8.7 MPC-HC svn 1120 Haali Media Splitter, Ffdshow included in K-Lite 4.8.0 (only codecs installed – no MPC-HC) PC2: WIN XP SP3 NET Framework 3.5 SP1 DIRECTX Redistributable March 2009 C2DUO 6600 ATI 3850 512MB Catalyst 8.7 MPC-HC svn 1120 Haali Media Splitter, Ffdshow included in K-Lite 4.8.0 (only codecs installed – no MPC-HC) 1. When I select the use 3dlut option in madVR 0.10 I get the error “opening 3dlut file failed” on the 1st pc but on the second everything works fine. From 2 days of searching the only difference seems the graphic card model. I will search more because it drives me crazy. Luckily my pc2 is my htpc connected to a PANASONIC 42 inch PZ80EA (European model 60 Hz) tv. 2. Also the picture on my pc2 obtained from the filter combination: Haali Media Splitter, Ffdshow, madVR, although very nice, seems a little dark compared to what I see from the filter combination: Haali Media Splitter, CyberLink H.264/AVC decoder (PDVD8), vmr9 renderless. If someone could make CyberLink H.264/AVC decoder (PDVD8) output YV12 then I would be very very happy. Anyway, the MadVR quality is very good and the movies run smooth on both pcs. 3. Which decoders can be used with madVR? I know ffdshow and WMVideo Decoder DMO can be used. 4. Another remark: madVR version 0.1, 0.2, … , 0.9, 1.0 So is 0.10 a step back to the start as 0.10=0.1 ? Last edited by cheetah111; 25th May 2009 at 15:26. |
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If the latter, then 85 is not included. As for the 85Hz refresh rate, on my CRT I used that with HR and found it best setting for mVR as well. 75Hz is sub-standard (and generally not recommended at a work place by standards for CRT) and 100Hz sometimes may be counter-productive in terms of video smoothness (imo owning to a fact that it may take 5 vsync intervals for a single frame). I have dual-monitor setup and 85Hz on CRT seems smoother than 60Hz on LCD. |
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25th May 2009, 20:13 | #1218 | Link | |
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24/25/30/50/60 all fit in 600 600 would be the processing framerate, interpolating frames where needed. Then showing the needed frames in the single standard video refreshrate the display uses. In my case it would be ANY>600>60 But as jong pointed out, in most cases i would be watching purely interpolated frames, and almost no real original frames |
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