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Old Yesterday, 19:40   #58021  |  Link
Klaus1189
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I think I don't understand what exactly you want to accomplish, but the "make the image better" crap like motion stuff is already mostly off and you can adjust in advanced options in picture menu some stuff if needed for further stuff. I must admit I don't know how the english menu entries in called, since I am in Germany.

I just hope that users get that there is not a ultimate TV, just look at LG OLEDs and also some SONY OLEDS, they have bad 24p stutter compared to other TVs:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/motion/stutter
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Old Yesterday, 20:25   #58022  |  Link
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Please Help.

hi,
i found reproducible setup - and postet it in a new thread.
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1892318

logfiles:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1T4...bXAMoO50I0sXB4


i have a problem with my video-player,
when playing video from resume position i get (black screen).
some resume positions work, some not.
in attachment i have a log for resume pos 00:01:04 which works, and 00:01:07 not working.

debugger reports, a lot of:
Microsoft C++ exception: _com_error at memory location 0x1ACDBA5C.

in madvrlog i can see: copying back buffer failed (new mode)
and log file gets realy huge.
regards, onur
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File Type: zip madVR - logOK.zip

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Old Yesterday, 20:35   #58023  |  Link
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upload to external filehoster like google drive, we cannot download it
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Old Yesterday, 21:47   #58024  |  Link
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you were right about the overscan thing losing all side of the image. hope theres a fix soon. another question does full chroma matter when watching movies or tv shows. or is mainly for web browsing using apps?
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Old Yesterday, 22:50   #58025  |  Link
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I'm currently running a Geforce GTX 1050 w/ 2gb of GDDR5 on my HTPC. Plays everything just fine (incl. NGU resize and 4K HDR).

I have an opportunity to upgrade it dirt cheap to a GTX 1650 w/ 4 gb of GDDR5. Would that be an upgrade (as it relates to madvr)? Is that card more powerful than the 1050?


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Old Yesterday, 23:39   #58026  |  Link
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the 1650 is about 50% faster then an 1050 and it is generally a bad card for the money a 1650 S is more then 2x faster then a 1050.
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Thanks. No idea how I overlooked that, especially considering the 1650 Super is only $10 more than the non-super.

Order placed.

Thanks!
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Old Today, 01:21   #58028  |  Link
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the existent of the 1650 is indeed very questionable.
the availability of the 1650 S is still bad it may even get cheaper.

waiting a month or more for 10-20 euros is not worth it in my eyes.

edit: can you do some basic performance test with the card when you get it some people ask about the madVR performance of this card and only someone owning it should show how good it is.
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Old Today, 04:00   #58029  |  Link
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And you must decide between the two things:
A) You use refresh rate change with 2160p23, 2160p24, 2160p50, 2160p59, 2160p60
OR
B) You enable smooth motion of madvr and stick with 60 Hz

Try both and stay what you like best, and of course diable all smooth motion interpolation crap of your TV, regardless of the manufacturer.
Samsung's do a really nice job with judder reduction and smooth motion...
I wouldn't waste the GPU/CPU cycles on MadVR for this... Instead, improve image quality.
But like you said, it's a personal choice.
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you were right about the overscan thing losing all side of the image. hope theres a fix soon. another question does full chroma matter when watching movies or tv shows. or is mainly for web browsing using apps?
About 99% of all available videos are 4:2:0, so not a real issue for average user, but if you use madVR for chroma upsampling you have to use pc mode for 4:4:4, so you can actually see the upscaling, otherwise the TV will interpret the signal as 4:2:0 and the upscaling "is for the ass"

And if you use the TV as computer monitor you also want 4:4:4 (RGB is equivalent because it is always full chroma reolution) to have sharp picture.
More info about 4:4:4 full color resolution:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/chroma-subsampling
https://www.rtings.com/images/test-m...chroma-444.png

http://madshi.net/madVR/ChromaRes.png

Here you must see the blue and red pixels, only around it is magenta
Note: Of course all pictures must be scaled 1:1 on the screen
I made a zoomed in screenshot, so for users who are new to this can see the actual difference:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kmn...ew?usp=sharing

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Samsung's do a really nice job with judder reduction and smooth motion...
I wouldn't waste the GPU/CPU cycles on MadVR for this... Instead, improve image quality.
But like you said, it's a personal choice.
You are right, but I can not recommend Samsungs smooth motion in madVR thread
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Sorry if I’m asking too many questions but you’re helping a lot. Problem now is I choose pc mode and it gives me the two option dynamic and standard with other options greyed out on the tv so I know I’m in pc mode. But as soon as the file starts to play on madvr I’m back to normal mode being able to select movie standard vivid on tv telling me I’m not in pc mode anymore. This happens full screen and windowed playback.

Also the chroma test am I looking for blue and purple outside the numbers and solid colours inside. Or blue purple inside 422 or inside 444 or inside both. I’m doing the test in full screen 1.1 scaling. Also does this test matter in hdr

Also any settings to concentrate my GPUs power to eliminate colour banding and black crush

Thanks so much btw for help given

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Old Today, 15:23   #58032  |  Link
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You WANT to use PC mode for playing media??
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Old Today, 15:55   #58033  |  Link
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Yeh I want to get as much colour and detail from my tv as possible. 444 makes a big difference looking at these images on this forum

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/how-i...o-you.1308591/
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Yeh I want to get as much colour and detail from my tv as possible. 444 makes a big difference looking at these images on this forum

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/how-i...o-you.1308591/
Whatever display settings game mode gives you, should be available in other TV modes... It could be other reasons some settings are greyed out.
For example, a LOT of settings on my Samsung TV aren't available at 60Hz refresh. Once I used MadVR to match the refresh rate of the content (23.97Hz), the all the display settings became available.
Another reason my I recommended using the TV's processing for judder and smooth motion...
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Old Today, 16:51   #58035  |  Link
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What Media Player do you use and what GPU? I need that info.
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Old Today, 16:59   #58036  |  Link
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Im using madvr with mpc-hc and geforce gtx 1080. when i am able to select pc mode with the player playback everythings dark. ive changed the pc levels 0-255 and 16-235 to help but only makes a very tiny difference. the other hdmi levels are greyed out. pc mode is working during this as the chroma image you gave works like in your image. and the brown fox text is clear with proper scaling.
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