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Old 12th September 2018, 06:17   #721  |  Link
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@jpsdr: thx, it seems that I've included the x64-bit version instead of the x86 version of Tesseract... I'll upload a new beta later today.
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Old 12th September 2018, 12:45   #722  |  Link
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The reason for upgrading from Tesseract 3.02 to 4 is mainly due to support for more languages...
Tesseract 4 is a lot slower and it's also the reason for the SE increase size (4 extra mb)!
Is this the reason I'm seeing a "sluggish" performance?
Are there any settings in new version I could use have the flow as in 3.5.6?

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Old 12th September 2018, 14:57   #723  |  Link
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@jpsdr: Could you test latest beta: https://github.com/SubtitleEdit/subt...leEditBeta.zip
How is that?

@varekai: You could try the above beta.
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Old 12th September 2018, 16:20   #724  |  Link
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@varekai: You could try the above beta.
Hello!

Just tried the beta and experienced the same sluggishness.
Imported a Blu-ray sup.
Also I noticed a lot of weird linebrakes that is not in 3.5.6

This is a screenshot from 3.5.7
https://i.imgur.com/Q4sY5Ek.jpg
This is from 3.5.6
https://i.imgur.com/yRJ5mCK.jpg

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Old 12th September 2018, 18:13   #725  |  Link
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Good morning.
I'm sorry, for the trivial question, but I can not select MPV player.
I downloaded the file from the site https://mpv.io/installation/



The version is in portable format, I also tried to press "Download mpv lib" but I can not select "mpv".
How should I proceed?
Thank you

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Old 13th September 2018, 04:35   #726  |  Link
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@varekai: Can you upload the source image? (you can right click on it in SE and save it)

@DMD: You need to click "Download" again in the popup window.
You can also download the "mpv-1.dll" from the dev package - be sure to take the release version in the correct x64 or x86 version. Atm latest dev package is here: https://mpv.srsfckn.biz/mpv-dev-20180731.7z
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Old 13th September 2018, 07:41   #727  |  Link
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@DMD: You need to click "Download" again in the popup window.
You can also download the "mpv-1.dll" from the dev package - be sure to take the release version in the correct x64 or x86 version. Atm latest dev package is here: https://mpv.srsfckn.biz/mpv-dev-20180731.7z
Thank you very much, I finally solved!

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Old 13th September 2018, 09:04   #728  |  Link
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Ok, i've tested, it works now, but my feedback on a sup file i've tested :
- Too slow.
- Too much more errors. Tesserac 3 produces realy significant better results.
For me, 3.5.7 is only negative. So, question :
- Is it possible to still use the previous tesserac version if i replace the files in the tesserac4 directory ?
- Is it possible to have both versions of tesserac, with two directory "tesserac" and "tesserac4", and a global setting in the "configuration/tools" which select the tesserac version used ?
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Old 13th September 2018, 14:00   #729  |  Link
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@varekai: Can you upload the source image? (you can right click on it in SE and save it)
This is from 3.5.7
https://i.imgur.com/ZMtUhOK.png

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@jpsdr: OK, I've tried to add Tesseract 3.02 back in also... how does this work: https://github.com/SubtitleEdit/subt...leEditBeta.zip ?
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Old 20th September 2018, 09:43   #731  |  Link
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When i select 3.02 in this beta version, i have more errors than with the 3.02 from the 3.5.6.
I've replaced the whole 3.02 (downloaded) directory by the directory from the 3.5.6 (for testing, just in case), but no change in behavior.
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Old 20th September 2018, 12:01   #732  |  Link
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Hi there.

I've got a quick question for you all. I've run into an issue with the BD subtitle import (.sup). When they are subtitles at the top and bottom of an image it doesn't seem to correctly identify this and either ignores one or puts them both into a single line at the bottom, leading to knock on issues. It could be that I'm doing something wrong since I am new to this tool. Does anyone have any experience with this? Is there a way around this that doesn't require manually editing these every time?

Thank you kindly!

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I've run into an issue with the BD subtitle import (.sup). When they are subtitles at the top and bottom of an image it doesn't seem to correctly identify this and either ignores one or puts them both into a single line at the bottom, leading to knock on issues. It could be that I'm doing something wrong since I am new to this tool.
It appears that the spatial position of the subtitles is lost during importing.
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It appears that the spatial position of the subtitles is lost during importing.
That's more than slightly annoying. If there isn't any way around that then does anyone have a suggestion as to a tool that can actually do it?

This is by far one of the best editing tools that I've used so hopefully there is some way to make this work though
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Old 23rd September 2018, 09:26   #736  |  Link
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@jspdr: Yes, SE 3.5.7 should probably not have included Tesseract 4 by default... I've uploaded a new beta here: https://github.com/SubtitleEdit/subt...leEditBeta.zip
Do you still have more errors with 3.02 in the new beta than with the 3.02 from the 3.5.6? If yes, should you share your sub?
Other changes: If you right-click in the list view you can also check the new "image pre-procissing" + Tesseract should also be faster if you have a nice CPU with many cores.

@varekai: Yes, Tesseract 4 is not really super... you can change the engine mode to "Neural Nets LSTM" which is the new engine - but it does not have support for italics and it also seems to have problems with line breaking.

@RyaNJ/Ghitulescu: Sorry, SE does not support positioning of subtitles much. Do you need only like "align top, left" or the actual position like "100, 300" ?
Also, you could try https://www.videohelp.com/software/SubExtractor
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@RyaNJ/Ghitulescu: Sorry, SE does not support positioning of subtitles much. Do you need only like "align top, left" or the actual position like "100, 300" ?
Also, you could try https://www.videohelp.com/software/SubExtractor
Thanks for the reply Nah, I don't need the exact position - I literally just need the subs at the top to stay at the top and the ones at the bottom to stay at the bottom. I could do it by hand but that would take days.

I'll give that a try, thanks!
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@varekai: Yes, Tesseract 4 is not really super...
you can change the engine mode to "Neural Nets LSTM" which is the new engine
- but it does not have support for italics and it also seems to have problems with line breaking.
Hello Nikse!
Thanks for the follow up and clarification, appreciate that!
For now I will stay with 3.5.6 which works very well for my needs.

Thanks and best regards
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Thanks for the reply Nah, I don't need the exact position - I literally just need the subs at the top to stay at the top and the ones at the bottom to stay at the bottom. I could do it by hand but that would take days.

I'll give that a try, thanks!
I just played around with it a bit and while it works... well... let's say the resulting mess is worse than having to fix a few lines with simultaneous top/bottom subtitles here and there. It's OCR isn't the best (given it's age that isn't a surprise really) and the resulting mess is difficult to clean up.

I think I'll just have to give up on the idea and just leave the subtitles alone. I don't have a hour to spend cleaning up each one of these videos as that would take weeks. I just don't have that sort of time. If Subtitle Edit can ever handle detection of top/bottom subtitle elements then I will revisit in the future.

Thanks for the suggestion none the less
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Is there a way to get "Auto break" splits the text in 3 lines when there are to many chars?

in options I set "max number of lines" to "3". Now I want that "auto break" uses this option, but it allways splits the text into 2 lines even if there are 50 chars per line
Three times 33 chars per line would be better for me.
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