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Originally Posted by honai

A suggestion for the title names:

We ought to use a naming convention for titles so that we don't get duplicate entries. I recommend using IMDB.com as the reference, so "Chronicles of Riddick" should rather be "The Chronicles of Riddick" (http://imdb.com/title/tt0296572/).

It's much better to use the SHA1 hash values to cheack for duplicate entries.
"TitleSorter.hta" could probably be upgraded to also check for duplicate hash entries.

The same title can potetially have two or different hash values + matching keys, for example for different regions. In this case it's ok to have more than one entry with the same tilte, they will still have different hash values and keys. The title name isn't really importan, it's just for you own reference, BackupHDDVD does not use the title name for anything. Instead BackupHDDVD computes the hash value from the inserted disc and find the corresponding key from the same line as the matching hash value is entered in the KEYDB.cg file. The program doesn't care what titles names you give to the different hashes. You could call all entires "Movie 1" and the program would still work. The titles are only there so you can see what movies you have entered, if you make a spelling error in the title it doesn't really matter.
To remove duplicates it's much better to look for duplicatehash values in the .cfg file.
Of course if you manually want to check for duplicates it would be best if all titltles were like on imdb, but the process could be automated in "TitleSort.hta" and in this case it's much easier and precise to check for duplicates of hash values. The larger the database gets, the more it would be needed to automate the duplicate control. Althoguh I think the program would still work even if there's duplicates in the .cfg, then it would proabbly just use the first entry of the matching hash entry and never see the duplicate of it urther down the list.

[pyrates]

Originally Posted by MrDVD

Hallo, i dont own a HDDVD-Rom but maybe anyone know if there are diff @ the Keys between USA and GER ? Maybe someone can check it with King Kong as i know it was also included @ the german X360 HDVD-Rom

Well u can find out by buying the hd dvd drive that was made for the xbox 360. You can hook it up to your pc after all. Just gotta pay for an extra part that costs $10 or you can just hook it up via usb instead.

[moshmothma]

Looks like the Volume Key deluge has slowed. Please keep them coming - more great titles we need to have on the hard disk (Dune, Hulk, Fearless etc..)

TIA

[firewan]

My two cent

C246CB48D40B72AC49FFBE40013EE8AD982F464D=Jarhead |V|MM/DD/YY| 90E0B99FD64D91C4340EB27BC97132F7

900FB4AC5DE8E81BD745B93CFD7E54A72EB51F50=Casablanca |V|MM/DD/YY| 58317B98998A3B4F17301F2C96602F19


enjoy

[tonyp12]

My javascript Title sorter is pretty much done.

TitleSorter.hta v1.2
Just put it in the same folder as your keydb.cfg

You should start with this keydb.cfg v1.2

[blizc]

Look below for updated keys.

These are the keys. It decrypts fine but can't playback cuz of the IME I think. Unless there is another explanation? These are Warner movies btw.

[MrDVD]

Originally Posted by pyrates

Well u can find out by buying the hd dvd drive that was made for the xbox 360. You can hook it up to your pc after all. Just gotta pay for an extra part that costs $10 or you can just hook it up via usb instead.

Prob is me cant buy it at the moment at all This drive is sellout here for weeks now

[evdberg]

It decrypts fine but can't playback cuz of the IME I think.

Interesting statement ... how do you know it is decrypted fine if it does not playback? What other method do you have to test this?

[guile]

I know this is a sticky related to volum unique keys but..was wondering if anybody had a problem with Superman Returns. I backed up my hd-dvd and all seems well except the 2nd .evo file will NOT play back in 5.1 (coaxial/spdif through motherboard). Everything else plays fine (Powerdvd 6.5) but when I go to the 2nd .evo file, I just get a bunch of noise. If I drop it down to 2 speakers, it will play though.

Thanks in advance.

[ron spencer]

ok....dumb question here, but what are people playing these movies with (software player that is). I have not really followed and want a quick catch up.

[tdent1138]

Originally Posted by ron spencer

ok....dumb question here, but what are people playing these movies with (software player that is). I have not really followed and want a quick catch up.

It appears PDVD 6.5 is the choice

[2bigkings]

hi,

please add some keys for european movies, because mi1-3 and kingkong seems not to work for me with US-Keys. I can't find the keys by my own, because windvd8 didn't work for me.

[blizc]

Originally Posted by evdberg

Interesting statement ... how do you know it is decrypted fine if it does not playback? What other method do you have to test this?

Because BackupHDDVD said so.
King Kong decrypted fine and I could play it albeit with artifacts and skipping. Quite a few movies have this issue it seems.

[jkenzie]

Originally Posted by blizc

F7B68DE4C0AB2258C5F3FFC2F77068364F89C517=Swordfish (USA) |V|MM/DD/YY| 1ED0A7B490367B7D32B98067735F591E
E25A954A51925CE317F411FC899EB315819C67DE=TrainingDay (USA)|V|MM/DD/YY| F7AA391310BC319A614C7A79F0E117E2

These are the keys. It decrypts fine but can't playback cuz of the IME I think. Unless there is another explanation? These are Warner movies btw.

What does playback look like? If it plays with stuttering and audio issues, then it decrypted, and its an IME issue.
If you get a black screen, then the key is not valid, and you decrypted garbage.

[blizc]

It was black screen. Took your advice and redid it with a different set of keys and it works now. Thanks so much.

Updated keys:
F7B68DE4C0AB2258C5F3FFC2F77068364F89C517=Swordfish (USA) |V|MM/DD/YY| 71476D8707857210D29FECAED1F93411
E25A954A51925CE317F411FC899EB315819C67DE=TrainingDay (USA) |V|MM/DD/YY| 92867284D6029F7379E5552A9BA4FCB4

[MrDVD]

Originally Posted by 2bigkings

hi,

please add some keys for european movies, because mi1-3 and kingkong seems not to work for me with US-Keys. I can't find the keys by my own, because windvd8 didn't work for me.

Thx for this info - its bad for you but now we can be sure there are diff keys for each continent or maybe country.

To verify this just check the EAN/UPC codes on the disk/case. The keys seem to be hashed from manufacturer IDs, too.

[evdberg]

Originally Posted by blizc

Because BackupHDDVD said so.
King Kong decrypted fine and I could play it albeit with artifacts and skipping. Quite a few movies have this issue it seems.

BackupHDDVD does not check the result of decryption at all, so it can never say that decryption was succesfull. You only know that the data has been decrypted with a key, but you will not be sure if it was the correct key ... until you can playback properly.

[blizc]

That would be a cool feature to have though. I have updated the keys. Tested and working fine now. Thanks.

On another note:
I think the following is a very good example of a compatibility list. Maybe http://www.hdkeys.com could incorporate some of the features/ideas.

http://list.ps2hd.com/

BackupHDDVD does not check the result of decryption at all, so it can never say that decryption was succesfull.

But doesn't a valid decrypted output contain some well-known characteristics, like patterns in the video stream that must be there to conform to the standard? So just check for those, if the key was wrong you won't find them.