BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[RichardB]

Hi jdobbs,

As promised yesterday, I re-ripped Batman,TDK, and let it cook overnight and through most today with DVD Rebuilder. Below is the log.

[20:29:41] BD Rebuilder v0.32.07 (beta)
- Source: THE_DARK_KNIGHT
- Input BD size: 37.92 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:47:28.960]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[20:29:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:29:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [20:29:42] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 4)
- [20:29:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,800 frames
- [20:29:42] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:30:19] Video Encode complete
- [20:30:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:30:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:30:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [20:30:35] Reencoding: VID_00005 (2 of 4)
- [20:30:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [20:31:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,498 frames
- [20:31:25] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:36:00] Video Encode complete
- [20:36:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:36:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:36:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [20:39:28] Reencoding: VID_00008 (3 of 4)
- [20:39:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 115,411 frames
- Bitrate: 5,672 Kbs
- [20:39:28] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:26:18] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:09:26] Video Encode complete
- [02:09:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:09:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:11:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [02:28:56] Reencoding: VID_00007 (4 of 4)
- [02:28:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 218,981 frames
- Bitrate: 16,276 Kbs
- [02:28:56] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:01:05] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:31:03] Video Encode complete
- [14:31:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:33:16] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:48:25]PHASE ONE complete
[14:48:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:48:25] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[14:48:31] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[14:48:31] BURNING BD structure to disc


Unfortunately, the disc never burned. Here's what my computer said to me:

I/O Error!
Device (0:0:0) Pioneer BD-RW
BDR-205 1.04 (D (ATAPI)

SCAI Status 0X02
Interpretation: Check Condition

SDB = AA 00 00 13 EO 20 0000 99 20 40 00
Interpretation = Write (12) - Sectors: 1302560-1302591

Sense Area - 71 00 04 00 13 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 44 00 00 0000 00

Interpretation: Internal Target Failure

Then when I click on "Retry" at the bottom of the message, the message simply repeats.

When I go into the working files area and click on the streams to play with VLC, they do work. I am a novice with all these files as well as IMG Burns, so would you direct me (or tell me) what files (or folders) I need to manually drag over to IMG Burn, so I an see if a bluray 25 will work so I don't have to re run the program and try again for another 18 hours? Also, is 18 hours really necessary to get a high quality version of this disc?

Thanks again,
Richard

[Capsbackup]

@RichardB;
If you look inside of the destination folder you chose for your backup, you will see a folder named after your source. Inside of this folder will be two folders, BDMV and CERTIFICATE. Those contain the files you need to burn.
You will want to use IMGBurn, udf 2.5. ( IMGBurn will set it up for you )
I would recommend creating an image first that you can test with a software player like PowerDVD. Then, if all looks good, test burn to a BD-RE for playback on your standalone. If all is still good, burn to BD-R.

[shon3i]

Originally Posted by Dark Shikari

It'll waste a few bits.

Verificators are always look for this flag (i know they maybe are wrong), all comercial encoders are use by default, earlier HRD patches are use it by default, so is completly safe, and will not make any harm.

Originally Posted by Dark Shikari

Anyways, we're currently getting Criterion to do some Blu-ray validation for us. If everything passes, NAL-HRD will be officially done and x264 will support creation of real Blu-ray compliant streams.

I cant wait to see that day

@jdobbs, thanks for quick update.

[colinhunt]

Originally Posted by Dark Shikari

Anyways, we're currently getting Criterion to do some Blu-ray validation for us. If everything passes, NAL-HRD will be officially done and x264 will support creation of real Blu-ray compliant streams.

That is absolutely fantastic. Can I read more about this validation process anywhere?

[DK]

I'm not 100% sure (because I did not save the project so that I would be able to doublecheck now) but I have the impression that in batchmode 32.08 "forgets" the selected audio streams and uses the default settings.

Can anyone confirm this?


+++++

Seems like I was fooled by BD RB:
the conversion is fine with only the selected audio streams I wanted BUT BD RB displayed (after it had finished) ALL default audio streams and not the selection I had made.

[RichardB]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

If you look inside of the destination folder you chose for your backup, you will see a folder named after your source. Inside of this folder will be two folders, BDMV and CERTIFICATE. Those contain the files you need to burn.
You will want to use IMGBurn, udf 2.5. ( IMGBurn will set it up for you )
I would recommend creating an image first that you can test with a software player like PowerDVD. Then, if all looks good, test burn to a BD-RE for playback on your standalone. If all is still good, burn to BD-R.

I'm a little confused, sorry...

Under THE_DARK_KIGHT source folder contains the folder:
CERTIFICATE
If I open CERTIFICATE I get a bunch of small files and two folders:
BACKUP
BDMV

Do I drag the entire CERTIFICATE folder over, or just the BDMV folder, or any other combination / permutation?

Also, what is udf 2.5 and how do I make sure it is activated?

Richard

[rippn]

Originally Posted by Dark Shikari

pic struct is completely unnecessary for Blu-ray. x264 automatically enables it when necessary (interlaced, pulldown).

You should set strict pyramid, not none. There is no reason why none should ever be necessary.

Is there any way to set these parameters in the current build, or is there going to be a new release soon making these corrections?

[shon3i]

Originally Posted by rippn

Is there any way to set these parameters in the current build, or is there going to be a new release soon making these corrections?

is already on in current build

[DK]

Originally Posted by RichardB

I'm a little confused, sorry...

Under THE_DARK_KIGHT source folder contains the folder:
CERTIFICATE
If I open CERTIFICATE I get a bunch of small files and two folders:
BACKUP
BDMV

Do I drag the entire CERTIFICATE folder over, or just the BDMV folder, or any other combination / permutation?

Also, what is udf 2.5 and how do I make sure it is activated?

Richard

Drag "The Dark Knight" folder - it contains all necessary files/folders

Imgburn normally sets UDF 2.50 automatically (for BD material) but you can doublecheck in the "Options" tab.

[deank]

FWIW BDMV folder has no place inside CERTIFICATE...

You must have

\CERTIFICATE
\BDMV

Dean

[rippn]

Originally Posted by shon3i

is already on in current build

Latest release notes:

Originally Posted by jdobbs

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new release of BD-RB (v0.32.08). Changes for this version:

- Added "--pic-struct" to command lines.  This should
  ensure a greater level of strict BD compliancy.
- Added "--b-pyramid none" to the command line.  This
  should prevent problems on some playback devices.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Note: I've also added a new hidden option. If you set

B_PYRAMID=1

in the INI file, the command line will set "--b-pyramid strict" rather than "--b-pyramid none"

Comment by the x264 developer:

Originally Posted by Dark Shikari

pic struct is completely unnecessary for Blu-ray. x264 automatically enables it when necessary (interlaced, pulldown).

You should set strict pyramid, not none. There is no reason why none should ever be necessary.

So you can set the B_PYRAMID=1 to enable strict pyramid, but is there any way to disable the --pic-struct command?

[shon3i]

There is no reason to disable pic-struct, it should be stay always ON. No reason to disable it.

[rippn]

Originally Posted by shon3i

There is no reason to disable pic-struct, it should be stay always ON. No reason to disable it.

Not trying to be a dick, but are you following the thread at all?

Originally Posted by Dark Shikari

pic struct is completely unnecessary for Blu-ray.

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Hmmm... I was misinformed. Will having the "--pic-struct" do any harm?

Originally Posted by Dark Shikari

It'll waste a few bits.

[Dark Shikari]

Originally Posted by rippn

Not trying to be a dick, but are you following the thread at all?

He's right. If Blu-ray analyzers want it, keep it, it can't hurt. A few bits is nothing at Blu-ray bitrates.

[gerald410]

Originally Posted by Dark Shikari

pic struct is completely unnecessary for Blu-ray. x264 automatically enables it when necessary (interlaced, pulldown).

You should set strict pyramid, not none. There is no reason why none should ever be necessary.

I'm sorry I'm slightly confused is the default for the program "pyramid none" ?is "strict" more desirable?

[Revgen]

Originally Posted by gerald410

I'm sorry I'm slightly confused is the default for the program "pyramid none" ?is "strict" more desirable?

The default is "Normal".

"Strict" isn't as efficient as "Normal", but is necessary for Blu-Ray compatibility.

[PhilippeB]

Hi firends & BD Rebuilder enthusiasts,

Last weekend was the end of my Win7 RC1 and re-installation of a full version (windows 7-64 ultimate).
Like with all re-installations usually comes trouble, first thing i tried is BD-Rebuilder to make sure everything was okay.

I sucessfully Rebuilt a 'Movie only' with no problem = 100% working.

HOWEVER, only two days after that, i am now unable to do anything. Each time i run BD-Rebuilder, when it gets to encoding, x264 stops working (looks like it crashes)
I am currently running BD-rebuilder (0.32.05). Latest abvailable version = same result.

Windows doesn't give any clue why x264 crashes.
When the first crash happened, i was running Handbrake in the background (also using x264 as an encoder) so my first guess was 'x264 doesn't like to be run in multiple instances'.
I closed everything and rebooted but no effect.

Curiously, Handbrake doesn't seems to have any problem (still) using x264 (no crash) but nothin' to do when it's called by BD-Rebuilder (running alone in the machine).

I also tough of a crappy data left over in some mysterious 'AppData/User/Roam/x264...' path but i cannot find where (if any) x264 would store temporary config data.

Anyone have any clue on this ?

Thanxs !

[RichardB]

Originally Posted by deank

FWIW BDMV folder has no place inside CERTIFICATE...

You must have

\CERTIFICATE
\BDMV

Dean

Hi Dean!

In the THE_DARK_KNIGHT folder I have ONE folder ...

CERTIFICATE

under CERTIFICATE I have two folders...

BACKUP and BDMV
plus a bunch of little things (app.discount, bu.discount, id.bdmu,online.online,online.sig)

did I screw up? What do I drag over? (Seems to me I can't drag the Certificate AND MDMV file together if BDMV is a subset of Certificate!?!?).

Richard

[Capsbackup]

There are two folders you want, BDMV and CERTIFICATE. Check your original source disc, it will have two just like this. Any other folders are unnecessary.
So you should have one folder with the name "DARK KNIGHT" that was inside the destination folder you selected. That is the folder you want to direct IMGBurn to. And inside of that folder will be the other two folders. Thats it!

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by DK

I'm not 100% sure (because I did not save the project so that I would be able to doublecheck now) but I have the impression that in batchmode 32.08 "forgets" the selected audio streams and uses the default settings.

Can anyone confirm this?


+++++

Seems like I was fooled by BD RB:
the conversion is fine with only the selected audio streams I wanted BUT BD RB displayed (after it had finished) ALL default audio streams and not the selection I had made.

You have to look at the streams while the encoding is being accomplished. BD-RB loads the selections from batch -- but returns them to their previous state after completion.