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Old 8th December 2010, 14:57   #10401  |  Link
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New Release of BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new version of BD-RB (v0.36.06). Changes for this release:
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- - Corrected an error in which the .CHP files used
  with IVTC were not corrected to match the new
  framerate.
- Corrected an issue in which hybrid sources under
  certain circumstances in conjunction with the
  IVTC could cause incorrect framerate calculations.
- Added a SETUP option for converting SD sources to
  1080.  This can be useful in creating high quality
  backups of DVD to Blu-Ray or AVCHD.
- Added a SETUP option for converting 4:3 sources to
  16:9.  Caution: This option will clip the top and
  bottom of images in order to make the conversion,
  designed primarily for letterboxed 4:3 sources.
- Moved placement of filters in the AVS file so they
  occur before any BD-RB embedded deinterlacing,
  inverse telecining, or resizing.
- Changed the default deinterlacing mode for DECOMB
  to blend=false.  Blending can be enabled by setting
  DEINTERLACE=2	in the config (INI) file.
- Corrected an error in which a source may incorrectly
  be kept intact even though "USE_FILTERS" was set.
- Updated the X264 command line so that the "--ref"
  parameter is set to the maximum for the specified
  output size.  1080 will use "--ref 4", while others
  (480, 576, and 720) will use "--ref 6".  To disable
  and always use "--ref 4", use the hidden setting
  MAXIMIZE_REFS=0.  [Update: v0.36.6] This feature
  only applies to "Highest Quality" mode in order to
  prevent slowdown in other modes.  Also, the "--ref"
  parameter has been removed from the tweak restricted
  list.
- Modified the hidden option "WEIGHTP" so that "1" is
  now the default (ON), adding "--weightp 1" to the
  X264 command line.  Setting it to "WEIGHTP=0" will 
  result in "--weightp 0".
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
  latest release (r1820).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to 
  the latest release (r1820).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.
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Old 8th December 2010, 15:49   #10402  |  Link
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Ah, I see. Now it checks the German language. But when I select only German to keep I still have no English track in the extras although it's the only language there Would it be possible to change that?

And would it also be possible to make the main window resizeable?
I'll look at keeping it when it is the only language... for now it's probably best to keep both German and English. If you click on the "Limit to One Track" box, you can ensure only one track is kept (there are often several English tracks).
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Old 8th December 2010, 15:50   #10403  |  Link
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- Updated the X264 command line so that the "--ref"
parameter is set to the maximum for the specified
output size. 1080 will use "--ref 4", while others
(480, 576, and 720) will use "--ref 6". To disable
and always use "--ref 4", use the hidden setting
MAXIMIZE_REFS=0.
Why? Surely in the fast modes you'd not want to use any more than the defaults for the given preset? This will make BD-RB vastly slower on fast modes.
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Old 8th December 2010, 15:53   #10404  |  Link
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Ughhh... guess I didn't give that enough thought. I'll change it for the next release. I'm sure I'll get some "it's running slower" reports...
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Old 8th December 2010, 16:22   #10405  |  Link
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Why? Surely in the fast modes you'd not want to use any more than the defaults for the given preset? This will make BD-RB vastly slower on fast modes.
I've changed it so that it only applies to the "Highest Quality" mode and updated the link in the first post. I don't think I want to go through the "Why is it taking so long" reports.

Thanks for catching that.

Note to All: I've updated to the first post to include a link to BD Rebuilder v0.36.06. This update makes a correction to prevent faster modes from being slowed by the "--refs" update.
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Old 8th December 2010, 20:58   #10406  |  Link
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- Modified the hidden option "WEIGHTP" so that "1" is
now the default (ON), adding "--weightp 1" to the
X264 command line. Setting it to "WEIGHTP=0" will
result in "--weightp 0".
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But now, we've lost the option to have --weightp 2. Could you please also modify the hidden option "WEIGHTP" to also accept 2?

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But now, we've lost the option to have --weightp 2. Could you please also modify the hidden option "WEIGHTP" to also accept 2?

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No. That can cause problems and shouldn't be used for Blu-ray backups.
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No. That can cause problems and shouldn't be used for Blu-ray backups.
That option is fully bluray spec compliant, and the only problem was due to certain chipset bad firmwares and it was solved long ago with firmware upgrades.

(By the way, It has being used in your previous releases and it hasn't caused any problem).

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Old 8th December 2010, 21:20   #10409  |  Link
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That option is fully bluray spec compliant, and the only problem was due to certain chipset bad firmwares and it was solved long ago with firmware upgrades.

(By the way, It has being used in your previous releases and it hasn't caused any problem).

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But not solved everywhere -- and I'm avoiding having to spend hour-after-hour explaining that to people... sorry, but the minimal advantage isn't worth the headaches. By the way you said "we've lost that option" -- it never was there. If you had set "WEIGHTP=2" in the past you were actually encoding with "--weightp 0" (the default).
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But not solved everywhere -- and I'm avoiding having to spend hour-after-hour explaining that to people... sorry, but the minimal advantage isn't worth the headaches. By the way you said "we've lost that option" -- it never was there. If you had set "WEIGHTP=2" in the past you were actually encoding with "--weightp 0" (the default).
But when "WEIGHTTP=1" was set, the encoding was done with "--weightp 2" (x264 default). And if you had that option hidden for long time and don't see why I would remove it (if followed this post from long time ago, and I don't remember any problem due to it).
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No. That can cause problems and shouldn't be used for Blu-ray backups.
It only causes problems on a single chipset, and only if you didn't update the firmware.

On the other hand, it's not very useful compression-wise, so it's perfectly fine to just dump the WEIGHTP hidden option entirely.
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It only causes problems on a single chipset, and only if you didn't update the firmware.

On the other hand, it's not very useful compression-wise, so it's perfectly fine to just dump the WEIGHTP hidden option entirely.
I'll just modify it where you can set it in the hidden option. Then if people set it to "2" -- they're responsible for any problems themselves. The default value will remain "1".
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That's all it could be... but I've never seen anything like that.
Eventually I found the solution:
The ghosting disappears when I replace in the script
ConvertFPS(......) by AssumeFPS(....).
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Eventually I found the solution:
The ghosting disappears when I replace in the script
ConvertFPS(......) by AssumeFPS(....).
You may have problems if you do that. If "ConvertFPS" is there it means you probably have a hybrid or pulldown source -- and if you use AssumeFPS you could get audio sync problems.

I'll go back and check when-and-how that is inserted to be sure.

[Edit] Actually there are two possible "convertfps" possibilities. One is related to hybrid/pulldown sources, the other may not be.

1. Are you talking about the one that is a parameter in the "DirectShowSource" statement or the one that is an AVISYNTH command?

2. Is the problem occuring while attempting ALTERNATE output? If so -- which profile?
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having problems with SALT Blu Ray using newest version. theres no audio selected and when i select it, it still doesnt get it. using Anydvd to read it then i load it with BD-rebuilder and burn it with IMGburn
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1080. This can be useful in creating high quality
backups of DVD to Blu-Ray or AVCHD.
How do you load a Standard DVD, it seems you can only load a BD Structure disk?
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You may have problems if you do that. If "ConvertFPS" is there it means you probably have a hybrid or pulldown source -- and if you use AssumeFPS you could get audio sync problems.

I'll go back and check when-and-how that is inserted to be sure.

[Edit] Actually there are two possible "convertFPS" possibilities. Are you talking about the one that is a parameter in the "DirectShowSource" statement or the one that is an AVISYNTH command?
The one in the avisynth command.
Actually the conversion is from original blu-ray 23.976fps progressive to 25fps (PAL-DVD, Alternate output profile DVD-5 plus 'Assume PAL for DVD Output' in DB-RB setup).
And yes, AssumeFPS(25) results in the typical "PAL speedup", means the audio needs to be adjusted as well accordingly.
The advantage is that AssumeFPS() does not manipulate the original frames (insert, blend, or whatever).

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How do you load a Standard DVD, it seems you can only load a BD Structure disk?
I convert it with multiAVCHD first.
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having problems with SALT Blu Ray using newest version. theres no audio selected and when i select it, it still doesnt get it. using Anydvd to read it then i load it with BD-rebuilder and burn it with IMGburn
Do you have an audio setup in BDRB that excludes the only source on the disc? Are you having BDRB convert to a output your system can decode?
Download Meidainfo and make sure the audio track is in there.

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Do you have an audio setup in BDRB that excludes the only source on the disc? Are you having BDRB convert to a output your system can decode?
Download Meidainfo and make sure the audio track is in there.
no audio that excludes it.i'm redoing it, this time I went to each individual file and selected (AUD-002 DTS-HD XXL Multi-ch). how can i post the log file?
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