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Old 16th June 2019, 08:45   #56581  |  Link
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OK, I got a new 4k tv. It's a sony x950g and I'm having the same problems at 60z. I can't get it to go to RGB. I also can't get it to switch to 10bit.
Without HDMI 2.1 (which AFAIK doesn't exist yet GPU-side, and is only supported by the new LG C9 display-side), you can't output RGB 2160p60.
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Old 16th June 2019, 08:50   #56582  |  Link
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you can't output RGB 2160p60.
Surely you meant to say 10 or 12 bit? 2160p60 RGB 8bit is fine.
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Old 16th June 2019, 09:55   #56583  |  Link
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Surely you meant to say 10 or 12 bit? 2160p60 RGB 8bit is fine.
Also, 8bit RGB 2160p60 is better quality than 12 bit YCbCr 4:2:2. This is not true if watching via a bluray player but it is when using madVR. I use 8bit RGB 2160p60 most of the time, over HDMI 2.0, on a LG C7 and now a C9.

HDMI 2.1 allows RGB 2160p120, which I am very much looking forward to when a GPU with HDMI 2.1 comes out.
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Old 16th June 2019, 10:06   #56584  |  Link
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HDMI 2.1 allows RGB 2160p120, which I am very much looking forward to when a GPU with HDMI 2.1 comes out.
Yeah, will be nice from a technical view, but I don't see myself rushing out to upgrade my entire A/V chain...
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Old 16th June 2019, 10:11   #56585  |  Link
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That is, there are no other ways to fix color issue with HDR madVR?
there is older version with that option.
you can use the windows HDR where this could work.
or it just works for you.
you should still figure out where your gpu is taking ages for an totally trivial conversion.

there are far more variables to check why this could go wrong.
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Old 16th June 2019, 12:45   #56586  |  Link
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Surely you meant to say 10 or 12 bit? 2160p60 RGB 8bit is fine.
Yes I did meant 10/12 bits RGB

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Old 16th June 2019, 13:26   #56587  |  Link
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Yeah, will be nice from a technical view, but I don't see myself rushing out to upgrade my entire A/V chain...
Stuck on 1080 on my OLED until my amp gets updated, banged in some 48Gbps HDMI cables for good measure. Most of my stuff is 1080 anyway so I can deal for now, but damn OLED is so God damned clean/pure in picture quality, get that 4:4:4 poppin and lord almighty, it's glorious. 10-bit is a waste of time based on the Pana OLED with my limited testing.

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banged in some 48Gbps HDMI cables for good measure..
Yeah, I've updated all my cables in the chain to 48Gbps versions too.

And when I go to update my display (but not any time soon), I'll def be looking at OLED.
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Old 16th June 2019, 16:48   #56589  |  Link
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Stuck on 1080 on my OLED until my amp gets updated, banged in some 48Gbps HDMI cables for good measure. Most of my stuff is 1080 anyway so I can deal for now, but damn OLED is so God damned clean/pure in picture quality, get that 4:4:4 poppin and lord almighty, it's glorious. 10-bit is a waste of time based on the Pana OLED with my limited testing.
just use 2 cables.
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Old 16th June 2019, 21:16   #56590  |  Link
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I meant I've tried 2 different cords in 2 different spots on the tv and they're both the same. 4.2.0 8 bit. I can't even get RGB, let alone 8 bit 10 bit and so on. I've tried looking for the magic mode to put it in, but haven't found it yet.
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He meant 2 cables as in one to the amp and one to the TV

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just use 2 cables.
Already do, just to amp then to tv. Cable length might be an issue doing it that way but might as well do this in the meantime, can always switch out one of the shorter leads since I don't need the bandwidth anyway. Cheers.
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Old 16th June 2019, 22:28   #56593  |  Link
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Hello, recently I have noticed a lot of stuttering but it could be because of the the new win 10 update (1903) since it started around that time, but I'm still wondering if anyone else have noticed it? Here are some stats, I noticed I have 20k presentation glitches after 10min.
http://https://i.imgur.com/xcWMXDl.png
https://i.imgur.com/4fjKpIy.jpg

My second question, I'm wondering what's your preferred settings for motion/smooth playback?
Nvidia Gsync on/off?
Smooth motion on/off?
Present a frame for every Vsync?

My specs:
i7-8700k
Gtx 1080Ti
1440p 144hz monitor

Thanks in advance.

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G-sync Off, madVR hates Gsync
Smooth motion ON, this takes some GPU power but keeps everything smooth without perfectly tuned refresh rates.
Present Frame for every Vsync On, I have had better luck with this option.

Do you have power set to "Adaptive"? The drivers default to Optimal Powder, which is not good. Also, do you have the newest Nvidia drivers? The older ones had a bug that used a lot of CPU.

A test with D3D11 disabled and with windowed overlay enabled might be useful.
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Ah oke, I turned off Gsync, set the power to Adaptive and enabled Vsync and that seems to have fixed the stuttering and presentation glitches.

Thanks a lot for the help!
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Glad it was so easy. Happy to help.
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Old 16th June 2019, 23:19   #56597  |  Link
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Oh, the stuttering/glitches are back. They came back after I restarted the player around 3 times.
Tried disabling D3D11 but that just makes the whole screen black and turning Vsync off didn't help.

Since it worked in the beginning it seems to be fixable but can't find anything else to test. hm..
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Disabling D3D11 made the screen black after restarting the player?! Do you have G-sync fully disabled?
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Old 16th June 2019, 23:25   #56599  |  Link
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I tried both, disabling for just Pot-player and disable it globally and same result.
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Old 17th June 2019, 03:12   #56600  |  Link
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Did you try MPC-BE or MPC-HC instead of Potplayer as Potplayer is known to have issues with madVR in some cases.Even though it is working fine in my system. I have MPC-HC, MPC-BE, Potplayer, Jriver MC and Zoom player installed in my two HTPCs. Every player is configured to use madVR and LAVfilters and I have all these players working fine with madVR. If one player has issues, any one of the other always works.
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I tried both, disabling for just Pot-player and disable it globally and same result.
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