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Old 17th August 2017, 19:54   #44721  |  Link
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Looking forward to testing, but I can't see the custom res tab in display modes (0.92.1). Is it there in this build?
It should be there. It requires you to open the settings dialog on the same PC the monitor is connected to. You can't do this remotely. Furthermore, the monitor must be "active", so basically the OS must show it in the OS display configuration dialog. Is that the case?
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Old 17th August 2017, 19:56   #44722  |  Link
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It should be there. It requires you to open the settings dialog on the same PC the monitor is connected to. You can't do this remotely. Furthermore, the monitor must be "active", so basically the OS must show it in the OS display configuration dialog. Is that the case?
Thanks, that's probably the issue, I'm using TeamViewer to the HTPC at the moment (not switching the PJ too early/often). I'm sure it will appear when the PJ is active later tonight, otherwise I'll let you know.
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Old 17th August 2017, 20:00   #44723  |  Link
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Thanks.
I got a strange picture in D3D11 mode for Sony_4K_HDR_Camp.mp4. Other HDR files are displayed normally.

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Old 17th August 2017, 20:09   #44724  |  Link
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Is that with LAV or with MPC-BE decoders? It seems that the decoder is reporting weird HDR metadata to madVR. E.g. max luminance is reported as "1 nits".
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Old 17th August 2017, 20:11   #44725  |  Link
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@madshi, the sample is reuploaded again http://www101.zippyshare.com/v/oe86z81X/file.html
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Old 17th August 2017, 20:14   #44726  |  Link
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I used LAV Video Decoder to test DXVA11.
Win8.1 is not my main system, so now I can not test how it will be on the MPC-BE decoder.

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Old 17th August 2017, 20:18   #44727  |  Link
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Display modes is still shown twice here with 0.92.1 and custom modes tab is only there for 1 sec and then its gone....

did a default settings reset and a comlete new installation of the new madvr version
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Old 17th August 2017, 20:41   #44728  |  Link
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The Edit Timing for custom modes window is not set to be always on top. So it is opening behind the video when in full screen.

Other than that, AMAZING stuff!
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Old 17th August 2017, 20:54   #44729  |  Link
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Wow Madshi thank you so much for answering all those questions!! And of course I'm going to purchase/donate when the time comes, you gave us a top notch product and in my case a lot of hours of quality movie viewing.
Thank you so much!
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Old 17th August 2017, 21:09   #44730  |  Link
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Thanks for this update madshi, very impressive changes!

I really like the new DX11 DXVA decoding, not for myself but for those with lower end systems and mobile. It is great to avoid most of the qualifications around DXVA2 native decoding.



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Is that with LAV or with MPC-BE decoders? It seems that the decoder is reporting weird HDR metadata to madVR. E.g. max luminance is reported as "1 nits".
Yes, this file was found to have broken metadata when you first added HDR support. A max nits of 1 is not correct.
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Old 17th August 2017, 21:24   #44731  |  Link
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Is the Pixel Clock not saving the changes?
I'm trying to set vertical back porch to 35 and pixel clock to 74.11 for a perfect 23.976hz result but the pixel clock is dropping back to 74.10 after applying it.
Only vertical back porch is applied but that results in 23.972hz.
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Old 17th August 2017, 21:27   #44732  |  Link
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It should be there. It requires you to open the settings dialog on the same PC the monitor is connected to. You can't do this remotely. Furthermore, the monitor must be "active", so basically the OS must show it in the OS display configuration dialog. Is that the case?
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Thanks, that's probably the issue, I'm using TeamViewer to the HTPC at the moment (not switching the PJ too early/often). I'm sure it will appear when the PJ is active later tonight, otherwise I'll let you know.
I'm on the JVC now, with the JVC as the active display, and still no custom res tab in the display modes screen (set-up in my sig below, although I also have a Vertex between the AVR and the JVC, which shouldn't make any difference). It briefly appears for a fraction of a second, then it goes away (I missed it initially).

EDIT: just to clarify, nVidia sees my display as Denon AVR, MadVR sees the Denon AVR, I tell it i's an AVR, and then I configure the JVC (Digital Projector) as being attached to the Denon. The OS only sees a Generic PNP Monitor, although for Audio it sees the Denon AVR, which is my HDMI Audio Out (Default). Maybe I'm having the issue because the display isn't connected directly to the GPU?
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Old 17th August 2017, 21:40   #44733  |  Link
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Noob questions :

1. What is the advantage of using perfect 23.976hz instead of 60hz with smooth motion ?
1a. The panning shots seem more fluid with the smooth motion solution, is that correct ?

2. Does it change something to use ReClock or not with smooth motion enabled ?

3. Is this new "custom modes" feature of madVR created to replace ReClock ?
3a. As I see it, they work very differently. Can they work together ?

4. I guess if I use smooth motion, I don't need to use the new "custom modes" feature at all ?

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Old 17th August 2017, 21:58   #44734  |  Link
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What happens when there are Repeated Frames ? I have steady repeated frames of 30 with MP4 file WEBRIP , normal movies MKV 1080P are working properly.
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Old 17th August 2017, 22:05   #44735  |  Link
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1. with 23p you don't have to use smoothmotion and at least i can see the difference between smoothmotion and true 23p but not everyone can and they have the same smoothness.
the advantage of smoothmotion is that you are never repeating or dropping frames for sync.

1a. if this is the case your TV maybe unable to do 23p properly this a a very common issue with TV even more expensive one have this problem commonly. some TV lose this ability in PC mode like mine where smoothmotion is now clearly better than 23p.

2. you can do that but you should not use both at the same time. smoothmootion on it's own is all you need no need to touch the audio too.

3. "yes".
3a. yes they can but a good custom resolution makes reclock obsolete.

4. yes.
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Old 17th August 2017, 22:06   #44736  |  Link
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x7007 OSD plz.

my blind guess is the file reports 60 FPS but only has 30 FPS.
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Old 17th August 2017, 22:08   #44737  |  Link
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x7007 OSD plz.

my blind guess is the file reports 60 FPS but only has 30 FPS.
If the movie is 30 , what can I do to fix it ? because it clearly sees it as 60 . you are correct

Thank you madshi ! for the Full Windowed D3D11 10 Bit mode !! I so long waited for it, hate full screen exclusive so annoying when using TV and the annoying black screen switching like 1-2 seconds or when you are 60 Hz it's like 2-3 seconds.

Also HDR works great now, I always had Black Screen when going to Full windowed mode in HDR, now it works perfect , without the need to enable Windows 10 1703 HDR mode .


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Old 17th August 2017, 22:12   #44738  |  Link
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my guess is maybe correct but i can't say it for sure without a sample.


one dropped frame every 15 sec wow.
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Old 17th August 2017, 22:34   #44739  |  Link
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thank you so much for enabling 10 bit fullscreen windowed. Now HDR works perfectly !!
I'll donate for sure once the version 1.0 is out .
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Old 17th August 2017, 22:34   #44740  |  Link
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Further feedback on 0.92.1 (set-up in sig below):

- Using the latest 385.28, there is an improvement re HDR in 0.92.1 as I can now get the HDR Metadata (MadVR set to pass through / send metadata) but the display doesn't switch to HDR automatically. Not a problem for me as I disable the JVC mode and switch manually to a custom mode, but I thought I'd try and let you know.
- The new 10bit path without FSE works great. That's really nice as on the JVCs FSE led to a few seconds black screen every time you used the player interface, for example, to select audio/subtitle track. Hopefully it will be possible to do without FSE for 3D too at some point.
- I enabled non-native resolutions in the custom res experimental tool (as the custom res tab doesn't work yet for me in MadVR) and created a custom res with the 1080p23 EDID. Unfortunately, that didn't seem to translate into any improvement for 1080p23FP (still 1 frame drop/repeat every 3mn or so). Does 1080p23(FP) need a custom res distinct from 1080p23(2D)? I couldn't see such in the tool. Also, while there is no gain, when I return to MyMovies after playback of a 3D film there is a weird corruption on the screen. The screen is still in 1080p23FP, the MadVR OSD flickers on the left (even if MPC-BE isn't running anymore) and the bottom third of the screen flickers on the top third. Is there a way to reset If I exit MyMovies, the display returns to 4K23 and all is fine again. None of this happens without a 1080p23 custom res. As there doesn't seem to be a way to revert to default timings, I'll wait for a fix for the custom res tab to see where that gets me.

Great work from you (and Nevcariel for the LAV part) in this build, thanks!
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