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29th December 2018, 10:53 | #54021 | Link |
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3D MVC with MPC-HC
Hi, i'm trying to watch ripped 3D MVC movies into mkv, it works fine in windowed mode but when i go fullscreen it goes really slow, i've tried to disable exclusive mode and most of the times it works fine but with exclusive mode it never works.
I have windows 10 with LAV filters and MPC HC with the last version of MadVR and my graphic card is a nvidia GTX 1060 6G thanks Last edited by albur; 29th December 2018 at 11:50. |
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In my specific case where I only play UHD files taken from UHD discs and some demo clip@60hz I imagine that a 1070ti is equal to a 1080. Right? Quote:
And more: If I understand well to have black bar dectection I need to set LAV filters to "DXVA copyback" ? If I set "DXVA copyback" I will have my CPU performing the video flux decoding? In this moment my htpc has an i7-2600k @ 3.40ghz on a Sabertooh P67 mobo (rev.1 if i remember well). This mobo surely has PCI express 2.0. I'm going to change my graphic card but not the rest of my actual HTPC. My question is: How is it important, with a new graphic card, to have a mobo capable of PCI Express 3.0 ?? So ... If I understand well, with my actual configuration, if I set LAV filter to DXVAcopyback decoding I'll have my i7 CPU decoding the video stream. If it's true I can test my cpu with HEVC UHD files@60fps. If I still see a lot of drop frames I'll be sure that a new graphic card is needed and, also with a new graphic card, I'll have no possibility to use CPU decoding with blackbar detection because my CPU is not able to decode well HEVC files @60fps. Is it all right? or I missing something? Thank you so much |
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PCIe 2.0 might only be an issue if you needed to use DXVA2 copy-back decoding with 4K content. Outside of that, the performance difference could be negligible to non-existent compared to PCIe 3.0. PCIe 2.0 x16 still provides more than enough bandwidth for new GPUs. But I would still buy a new motherboard if I was building a new PC.
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Full screen exclusive no longer working... D3D11 only 8-bit now
I had FSE working, with D3D11 going to 10-bit.
Somehow in my figuring out HDR to SDR mapping (still lost there, but that's another problem)... I have managed to no longer get D3D11 to 10-bit and full screen exclusive mode working. I have it enabled in MadVR. I can post the whole log somewhere, but maybe someone has some ideas of what's going on without that? Thank you Edit: I have it working with 10-bit D3D11 in MPC-HC, but still going 8-bit "windowed" in full screen in Zoom Player. Can't figure out why it worked before and it's gone sideways now. Edit 2: Fixed; documenting for others: Update: Nvidia hotfix released yesterday (two weeks newer than WHQL released earlier on 12/12)... Fixes this. It also addressed an issue where my monitor wouldn't enter sleep mode with my DP connection. https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answ...tail/a_id/4758 Code:
00000676.119 Render CDirect3D::IsMediaPlayerFullscreen(self: 1753F1C8, myRect: 0, 0, 3840, 2160; monitorRect: 0, 0, 3840, 2160) -> yes 00000676.374 Render D3D11 fullscreen windowed (8 bit) 00000676.376 Render covered by some windows 00000676.378 Render madVR window [madVR] {0,0,3840,2160} ... and then near the very bottom of the log... 00013072.428 Creator CVideoRenderer::DisableExclusiveMode(disable: +); 00013072.434 Creator CVideoRenderer::DisableExclusiveMode() -> + 00013072.438 Creator CVideoRenderer destructor; Last edited by JackBauer; 30th December 2018 at 01:42. |
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30th December 2018, 18:31 | #54029 | Link |
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What's the initial refresh rate of the display when you turn it on? If 47p then try to set it to something different, e. g. 60Hz, before you start playing content. That is how my custom 23p mode works, that I wrote about a week ago, I also have to manually switch to a different mode. I wonder if it solves the problem for you as well.
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Two questions:
Running madVR on a desktop PC, as a HTPC, as the only thing you are running on that PC (along with MPC-HC, with LAV Filters (cuvid) and ReClock, is any other hardware than the GPU affecting how the picture is displayed and the quality of it? If you use the same TV with the same picture settings, the same madVR, MPC-HC and LAV filter settings, the same HDMI-cable and the same PC, but change the graphics card from a GT630 GGDR5 to a GT740 GDDR5 (using the same drivers if that is possible), how similar a picture, would you be able to produce on your TV? |
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The very purpose of madVR is to bypass most of the graphics card driver's video picture processing to guarantee a consistent picture quality.
In your described scenario you would have exactly the same quality.
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Is this a trick question? There would be zero difference imo.
Upgrading a video card provides more capability. If you don't utilize the capability, nothing has changed. In other words, I doubt replacing a GT630 with a GT740 and playing the same non-problematic title is going to look any different than it did provided all you did is swap the cards.
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No, not a trick question! Yeah, I have a DELL Dimension 9150 (with a GT630) as a HTPC, since all the material I watch is just 720p anyway. The picture is great, btw! I also have a DELL Dimension E521 (with a GT740) in reserve. I wonder what would happen, to the picture, if I needed to change out the graphics card and take the GT740 and put in the Dimension 9150? Or the other way around (what would happen to the picture) if I needed to take the GT630 and put in the Dimension E521? Due to their age, I mean - and using the same TV. What you guys are basically saying is, that - should either of these scenarios occur, I would still have the same picture with the same TV? Last edited by SirSwede; 31st December 2018 at 09:54. |
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Yep, everything should look exactly the same.
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What's the difference between OS HDR (Windows 10 HDR enabled playback) and NV HDR (MadVR auto switching with Windows 10 HDR turned off)?
I red some about OS HDR not sending metadata back in early 2018s, but some people claim it does. Are they basically both the same but one is rendered by Windows and one by Nvidia? Last edited by XTrojan; 31st December 2018 at 02:41. |
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The strange thing is that I still have black bar detection also if I change "hardware decoder to use" to none or D3D11. Is it not only a feature of DXVA2 copyback? Quote:
In the settings for devices into Madvr I've setted: 2160p23, 2160p24, 2160p50, 2160p60. Chors , trust me, the frame lost are massive. This is not a refresh problem ... Look at the decoder queue ... it's to low. Huhn is right , my GTX970 has a poor decoder for UHD files! I've also problems with 24fps UHD HDR files taken from UHD discs. If I play the file from the beginning the queue remains full and I've no drop frames with a avg rendering time near 32ms. If I move ahead using the line-time of the film and jump to another point It starts to drop frames massively. If I pause the playback the rendering queue fills up again and if I play it again I have no dropped frames for some minutes .... after that maybe the queue turns down and the drop frames restarts. In a first moment I was thinking that my USB3 HDD was to slow to send MKV UHD files to HTPC. So I've copied a file to the main SSD hdd. The problem persists so I'm thinking that Huhm is right my GTX970 has poor decoder also for UHD at 24fps. P.s. Focus assist is disabled. If you have any suggestion to reduce dropped frames ... Thank you so much. |
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https://imgur.com/a/gxw3ZBA Yes it switch to 1080p24 but in full screen exclusive mode it drops a lot of frames with 3D MVC mkvs, without exclusive mode it works fine |
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