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5th February 2016, 21:37 | #35842 | Link |
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I think the output is the same as frame-packed. The display splits the full SbS frames and shows them sequentially.
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- Dropped frames are only an issue during playback. Bringing up menus and navigation can cause frame drops, but they aren't important. If the frame counter is not increasing during playback, your settings are fine. - Deinterlacing is necessary for interlaced sources. Most sources these days are not interlaced. Exceptions are DVDs and live TV broadcast at 1080i. Only these sources would be deinterlaced. Set madVR to auto and it should take care of this for you. It will only deinterlace sources that need deinterlacing. - LAV Video does not control dithering or RGB modes -- madVR takes care of this. The only setting to be concerned with in LAV Video is hardware acceleration. - General settings such as "use a separate device for presentation" are only necessary if you are having playback issues. Using fullscreen exclusive mode is the safest route. You shouldn't notice any difference during playback. - If your display does not support any resolution below 60 Hz, I would set it to the highest resolution and use smooth motion instead. Smooth motion can improve the fluidity of playback but is usually a matter of taste. You may prefer turning it off and living with 3:2 pulldown instead. I have one display that doesn't support 1080p24 and 3:2 pulldown isn't that bad.
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I've only researched this topic. I don't have any 3D content, but I've read that full SbS on a 1080p display is possible.
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Full-SBS is rendering 2D at left and MVC at right, the TV will then combine these two into a 3D image, but lose half the vertical resolution by doing so. I'm not sure how MadVR handles Full-SBS but by the look of it, you need a UHD TV as it will put two 1080p video streams together, in order to do this you need a 2160p TV or downscaling is needed. I'm as well not sure if MadVR does any upscaling, it shouldn't as it's two separate video streams (2160p total). The PC can't detect the 3D, it simply detects it as 2D or well two 2D videos, the TV will then do "post-processing 3D merging". By this logic MadVR/The PC thinks the video is 4k, it's the TV who post-processes (merging) = half vertical res lost. The PC does however detect frame-packed, frame-packed seems to be a "link" with the PC and TV while SBS is TV "post-processing" but requiring higher specs (4k 3D TV). SBS is very similar to passive 3D, the reason Active 3D still exists today is because it saves the full res while passive 3D is half vertical res. Even though active 3D has a higher chance of causing eye fatigue(shutter glasses blinking 120times a second with black frames), major crosstalk issues, not to mention it being expensive and more annoying to set up. Last edited by XTrojan; 5th February 2016 at 22:36. |
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frame packing 3D is full resolution by sending 2 picture with full 1080p resolution. if it is sending 48 frames or a 3840x1080p image doesn't matter. and i don't know. SBS is sending a 2d imaging which is the resolution of your screen. on a 1080p screen it is 1080p on a UHD screen it is 2160p and both picture on this frame. my TV can't do SBS at UHD resolution. i is only using 3d at 1080p and all other option are grey out. so frame packing is the only way to get full resolution for me. |
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I dunno
Well is that bad?? Like thats what i am trying to figure out, i want great image quality and nothing overkill, and as i said if you go back to one of my previous messages, those are the settings im using to upscale from like 720 and 4** something. Should i try something else?
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Upgrade to AMD Crimson Edition 16.1.1 Hotfix (Hotfix)?
Running on Windows 8.1 x64 + FX8320 @ 4.3ghz + 2X HD7850 with Radeon Catalyst 15.11.1
I know for a fact that MadVR runs properly on Windows 8.1 only, coz on Windows 7 & 10 both of these idiots enable Crossfire Mode when running MadVR. So the question is to those who are using the latest AMD Crimson, is it worth it? performance and stability wise? and does losing important video settings using Crimson affects MadVR's picture quality? |
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Some users like super-xbr but NNEDI3 with as many neurons as possible often considered optimal. Almost everyone agrees that luma is much more important than chroma, especially for live action. Chroma is more beneficial for computer graphics or animation but luma is still more important. My opinion: For TNG my 480p30 settings are: chroma upscaling: Reconstruction Soft image upscaling: Jinc AR luma doubling at 1.5x or bigger with NNEDI3 256 chroma doubling at 1.5x with NNEDI3 32. luma quadruple at 3x or bigger with NNEDI3 32 chroma quadruple at 3x or bigger with NNEDI3 16 I am on a 1440p display, not 4K, so I am downscaling with Bicubic 150 AR. I tune the upscaling refinement options to my preference for each show. I haven't found settings for them that I like for everything but usually once tuned they are fine with other content, if I am feeling lazy. The key is to not overuse them. For dithering, I like ED1 on this display but I recommend ordered dithering unless you can pick your own preference. Disable "change dither for every frame" to reduce subjective noise unless you are using a very large or low resolution display. I would drop chroma quadrupling, then luma quadrupling, then chroma doubling, then turn down luma doubling, as performance required. Switching to super-xbr 75 is also an option. Others probably use other settings which also look quite good.
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Some Line Thinning can work wonders on lower resolution content and many users like edge sharpening and superRes enhancements too. Compare these to your own TV's sharpness settings, I personally set TV sharpness to 0 and let the PC perform higher quality sharpening. NNEDI3 is a great upscaler but the visual benefits past 64 neurons are very small, if you've got extra juice to spare after everything else is decided then by all means crank it up for luma upscaling. |
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I often like the look of SuperRes but it also brings back aliasing that was in the source and which NNEDI3 got rid of. It is true that going above 64 neurons is very expensive, but chroma doubling and quadrupling is also of little benefit compared to the performance cost. With live film I like going to 256 neuron luma doubling before doubling/quadrupling anything else. It gives it a more "natural" look in some way.
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It's actually 1920 x 2205. The two 1080p images for each eye are stacked vertically with a 45 pixel gap between them. I'm not sure why it can't be done with a custom resolution and some smarts by the renderer.
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