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26th October 2017, 18:10 | #46863 | Link | |
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I mentioned before that disabling SuperRes on ReconSoft fixed the issue for me, but later the frame drop problem still happened with SuperRes off. I think ultimately the problem was related to high GPU usage, rather than SuperRes specifically. While troubleshooting a different problem, I replaced the PSU with a much higher quality PSU, and I believe this fully solved the frame drop problem, as I was able to play a video for 20 minutes at 60% GPU usage with no frame drops. However, I'm still stuck trying to figure out a new problem, which is an audio crackle which gets louder the higher the GPU usage is. I've only been able to reproduce it in madVR so far -- I've tried FurMark as well as games with unlocked FPS to maximize GPU use and they did not produce this crackle sound. It doesn't seem like GPU coil whine to me, but I could be wrong about that. The biggest problem with this crackle is that I can hear it through my speakers. My audio chain looks like this: NVIDIA GPU (HDMI) -> AV Receiver -> Power Amplifier -> Speakers. I have read that others have resolved coil whine getting to the speakers by using GPU HDMI instead of onboard audio, but my audio issue happens over HDMI. Things I have tried:
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but I figure it's somewhat relevant because madVR is the only thing I know of so far that triggers this GPU crackle. Does anyone have any ideas? About the only thing left I have to try is replacing the CPU (4790K) or the PC case, I think... Edit: Here is a recording of the crackle, recorded near the GPU itself (volume needs to be turned up a bit): https://clyp.it/zgj20ezf# Edit2: I was able to also reproduce the crackle while running MPDN on the highest quality preset, confirming that it's not specific to madVR. Last edited by thewildsun; 27th October 2017 at 04:14. |
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now looks i can play, but still some little iussue sorry madshi , i checked all reply to my questions and i didnt find your reply. Just to see what your suggestions and try to understand why i miss them! my english is not good ok... Anyway, i have some iussue when i my htpc start its already in HDR mode, my tv is a LG 65B6V. When i start to play the movie it stay in hdr mode, but when i double click on mpc-hc and it go to full screen now always stay in HDR mode....sometimes i have to switch to full/windows severl times....wondering why! Last edited by Blackwalker; 26th October 2017 at 18:39. |
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26th October 2017, 19:57 | #46865 | Link |
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So i updated the great fall creators BS windows 10 and right away i had several problems and one of them is making me thinking in returning to windows 8.1 ASAP. No FSE on madvr??? Well it didnt crash the player but when it goes to FSE i get black screen with sound. If i return to windowed mode i get video again without closing it. And when i close video the video stays almost like recorded on screen. The media player freeze and i need to ctrl-alt-del and close the process .exe. Tested in MPC, jriver, zoom player, mpc-be, daum pot.
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26th October 2017, 20:58 | #46866 | Link |
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Yes, Windows 10 and FSE don't play well together. This has been true before the latest update but your issue sounds much worse.
Have you reinstalled your video drivers after the update? I seem to have to reinstall all my drivers after these feature updates.
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Yes. I unninstalled and installed audio and video drivers again and tried several versions of madVR. I even tought it was my gtx 750 ti and removed it from the computer and activated the intel hd 4600 and same thing. I think its a new kind of desktop composition from my little knowledge about crap windows 10. But i have no patiente for waiting so i will revert to windows 8.1 and when they solve this messed up windows i will probably (never) return to windows 10.
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26th October 2017, 21:58 | #46868 | Link |
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It's all pagan voodoo at the moment for me. After I downgraded to 385.69 with W10 FCU / latest madVR, mpc-hc worked with FSE disabled. Pretty consistently. Yesterday I tried Kodi DSPlayer with the Elysium trailer and that worked with FSE enabled - I was planning to report here today but now, neither DSPlayer, nor mpc-HC works. Regardless of FSE being enabled or disabled. I need to spend more time on feng shui to be able to predict when it'll work next
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26th October 2017, 22:03 | #46869 | Link |
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Which is weird, because FSE games are just fine. I play everything like that for better GSYNC behavior. You would think if games can do it, madVR should manage.
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So here's something weird I just can't explain.
I'm trying to play an HDR HEVC 4k file. My TV is 2160p so there is no image upscaling here, only chroma. Now, if I set chroma upsampling to something simple like Lanczos3 - it plays fine and the rendering time is ~6ms. However, if I change chroma upsampling to NNEDI 32 neurons or NGU AA High/Medium, I get a rendering time of ~20-30ms and dropping frames every few seconds. Every time it I see frames dropped, I can also see that the present queue empties to 0 and quickly refills. I don't understand why it's dropping frames, 20-30ms should be fine for 24p content. Things that don't make a difference: FSE/Windowed, CPU queue size, Delay-or-not until queue is full. My setup: Win10, GTX 1050, 385.28, latest madVR, D3D11 decoding with LAV Thanks for any help in advance! Last edited by PurpleMan; 26th October 2017 at 22:17. |
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New update: Ive tried one last time and voila FSE works with madvr 0.90.24. With directx11 only. No dx9....................
But ive read here it can change any moment so probably will not endure. I guess its obvious what is broken here. Windows 10 FCU. And these people get payed to do this updates??? Windows 10 is the crapiest thing ever created. They skipped number 9 because number 9 is cursed for some reason i dont undertsand. Now they curse us with this nightmate creators update. Even the name sounds like a vilain coming from a Ridley Scott movie. |
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4k speaking i think its too much for a gtx 1050 to handle. You probably can get away with nnedi 16 neurons and no hardware acceleration without drops. Probably. And why do u use d3d11 on lav?? Ive heard its not stable yet. Test it with software decoding if u can or maybe CUDA??? |
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1. The decoder queue has plenty of frames in it, it's only the present frame that's getting empty. 2. If the GPU would be too overloaded with decoding, you'd expect the render time to be way more than 20-30ms. I mean, If it's so swamped with decoding, I'd imagine it wouldn't be able keep up with madVR's processing, which it seems to. maybe @madshi has some insight here. Thanks! |
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can you make a screen of the OSD? i feel like an broken record but a 2 GB can easily run out of Vram when used for UHD you can check that too using GPU-Z (1850-1950 usually means you are out of Vram but not always.) Quote:
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27th October 2017, 10:36 | #46877 | Link | |
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I'll follow your suggestion to disable hardware decoding for DVD, that makes complete sense until Madshi implements support for multiple providers (not necessary for me, as you say with a 1080Ti I can easily decode SD MPEG2 with software). As far as I'm concerned, problem solved as I can have D3D11 acceleration on all the time with an auto exception for DVDs. Thanks again!
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27th October 2017, 10:37 | #46878 | Link | |
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27th October 2017, 15:40 | #46880 | Link |
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For people who have problems with FSE in Windows 1709, did you check if the "disable fullscreen optmiizations" compatibility option wasn't re-enabled for your media player(s) by the update?
Mate, of your 32 posts on this forum, most of them are you repeatedly asking for ETAs for Dolby Vision support in various software. Do you own Dolby shares or something? Are you really in such a hurry? Support won't come sooner the more you bother devs about it, you know.
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