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Old 19th April 2010, 23:35   #7801  |  Link
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I have try this change and it works:

- Uninstall/Reinstall ffdshow 3326
- update x264.exe for rev 1542

at 2% now and not crashed. After conversion done, i will retry the old x264.exe.

I will give you some news.
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Old 20th April 2010, 00:01   #7802  |  Link
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I've have now been able to back up a number of blu-rays now. For that, thank you very much jdobbs, your work has been great. I am now only having one problem so far, my blu-rays re-encode, burn fine, from what i can tell. On my ps3 and my vizio blu-ray players the movies play and look great. Though its not a big problem but there is one blu-ray which i don't use that much anymore, bdp-s301 that will not play the bd-r25 backups. It says can't play disc, or no disc in tray. At first I ignored it because before the firmware update it said it was not bd-r compliant. The lastest firmware update did state it added this: "Compatibility with BD-R/RE discs burned by the Click to Disc™ and Click to Disc™ Editor software included with some VAIO® computers". I don't have this software but I have a hard time believing that only that software has the capabilities the record data that my blu-ray player can play. Since it's not a much used player it won't be big deal if get it working, just would be nice. Yes it does play original blu-rays

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Old 20th April 2010, 00:05   #7803  |  Link
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Hello Jdobbs!

x264.exe crashed during conversion of this bluray:
BAD_LIEUTENANT

here the 1rst try:

Code:
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[18:11:32] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
  - Source:  FULLDISC
  - Input BD size: 23,28 GB
  - Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
  - Target BD size: 22,66 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
  - One Pass ABR Mode enabled
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:11:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [18:11:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
 - [18:11:33] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
 - [18:11:33] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
   - Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
 - [18:11:33] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
  - Encode failed.  Retrying.
[18:11:58]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
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[18:15:18] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
  - Source:  FULLDISC
  - Input BD size: 23,28 GB
  - Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
  - Target BD size: 22,66 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
  - One Pass ABR Mode enabled
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:15:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [18:15:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
 - [18:15:22] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
 - [18:15:22] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
   - Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
 - [18:15:22] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
  - Encode failed.  Retrying.
  - Encode failed.  Retrying.
Code:
[Status]
LABEL=FULLDISC
VERSION=v0.33.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24999965565
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24807383040
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.972870884288164
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00006]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=19761016
RATE=14585
It crashed again and again.

i've got this message in the inspector:

Code:
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[18:19:42] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
  - Source:  FULLDISC
  - Input BD size: 23,28 GB
  - Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
  - Target BD size: 22,66 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
  - One Pass ABR Mode enabled
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:19:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [18:19:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
 - [18:19:45] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
 - [18:19:45] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
   - Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
 - [18:19:45] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
  - Encode failed.  Retrying.
  - Encode failed.  Retrying.
  - Reached retry limit.  Aborting.
  - BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
  - AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
  - HAALI Splitter:  Ok
  - FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
  - WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC:  Ok
  - WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC:  Ok
  - WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC:  Ok
  - FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
  - FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec":  Ok
  - FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt":  Ok
  - X264:  Wrong version found
  - AFTEN:  Ok
  - FAAC:  Ok
  - MP4BOX:  Ok
  - WAVI:  Ok
  - TSMUXER:  Ok
[18:20:54] - Failed video encode, aborted
What should i do to resolving the x264 version?

Edit: x264 --help
version: x264 core:92 r1523 25ca5b0
test also x264 core: 93 r1538 bd72d46
You upgraded X264 on your own and caused the error. Downgrade, and don't report problems that you cause for yourself.

The new X264 version has a bug related to sizing when it gets its input from an AVS... next time wait until I upgrade in the release -- that way you know it has been tested. This is a self inflicted injury.
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Old 20th April 2010, 00:11   #7804  |  Link
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The new X264 version has a bug related to sizing when it gets its input from an AVS... next time wait until I upgrade in the release -- that way you know it has been tested. This is a self inflicted injury.
What bug?

x264 will weave field-based sources. This is a good thing; previously, they would be interpreted wrong. Do you want the old broken behavior back where field-based sources get interpreted as alternating-field half-vertical-res progressive videos?
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What bug?

x264 will weave field-based sources. This is a good thing; previously, they would be interpreted wrong. Do you want the old broken behavior back?
I was just about to PM you. It's definitely there. If you feed a 720x480 interlaced source into X264 via an AVS with the latest version the output is 720x960.

I'll PM you, but I have to do it in about an hour (gotta run). I have an example command line, source, and AVS file.

You're not implying this is something you wanted to happen are you? I can understand weaving two fields -- but why would you weave what appears to be two frames?
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I was just about to PM you. It's definitely there. If you feed a 720x480 interlaced source into X264 via an AVS with the latest version the output is 720x960.

I'll PM you, but I have to do it in about an hour (gotta run). I have an example command line, source, and AVS file.

You're not implying this is something you wanted to happen are you? I can understand weaving two fields -- but why would you weave what appears to be two frames?
x264 will weave if the field-based flag is set. That is, if you used SeparateFields() or AssumeFieldBased().

If you set AssumeFieldBased on a frame-based input, you are doing it wrong.
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x264 will weave if the field-based flag is set. That is, if you used SeparateFields() or AssumeFieldBased().

If you set AssumeFieldBased on a frame-based input, you are doing it wrong.
You may be right -- but the encode works perfectly when you switch back to r1142. The point I was making in the post above is that the error is caused by the poster upgrading to the new version before I am able to test the new one.

As per the AVISYNTH docs, I used "AssumeFieldBased()" because that's the only way you can tell AVISYNTH the field order of the source. It didn't cause an issue until now.

From the AVISYNTH docs:
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However, this information isn't necessarily correct, because field information usually isn't stored in video files and AviSynth's source filters just guess at it. AssumeFrameBased and AssumeFieldBased let you tell AviSynth the correct type of a clip.
Either way -- BD Rebuilder doesn't work with the new version. Now that I can define bff/tff in the command line I don't really need to do this anymore anyway.
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You may be right -- but the encode works perfectly when you switch back to r1142. The point I was making in the post above is that the error is caused by the poster upgrading to the new version before I am able to test the new one.

Either way -- BD Rebuilder doesn't work with the new version.
Check your Avisynth scripts. If you can recreate a case in which:

a) you are not using AssumeFieldBased
b) you are not using weird complex scripts that you don't control

and it triggers, post a test case and we'll fix it.

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As per the AVISYNTH docs, I used "AssumeFieldBased()" because that's the only way you can tell AVISYNTH the field order of the source. It didn't cause an issue until now.
I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do that unless you actually have separate fields. I imagine this could break a lot of filters internally as well.

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Check your Avisynth scripts. If you can recreate a case in which:

a) you are not using AssumeFieldBased
b) you are not using weird complex scripts that you don't control

and it triggers, post a test case and we'll fix it.

I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do that unless you actually have separate fields. I imagine this could break a lot of filters internally as well.
No big deal. I've already removed AssumeFieldBased() for the next release. In the older versions of X264 all I had was "interlaced" and AVISYNTH could sometimes be wrong about BFF sources. I can tell X264 the field order on the command line now.
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jdobbs if im playing on a 65in tv do you think its best using automatic quality settings or uncheck so it does a 2-pass? cause putting in the original blu ray disc and putting in my backup copy (doing automatic quality) it looks a lil different?
ps by the way im doing bd-25 output option
For those that keep asking “what encode setting should I use” I ran a test using “Enemy At the Gates”

The original is a 40GB move that I shrunk to 25GB – a reduction of 39% according to BD-Rebuilder (after excluding all the unneeded audio and subtitles).

I cut a 2 minute segment from the opening sequence when they are crossing the water in boats and getting all shot up. This is a good reference clip because it has facial close-ups, explosions, fast panning, CGI (airplanes strafing the boats), bold colors (explosions, blood) distance shots and text on paper. After stripping all but the video, I ended up with a 500MB file. I then forced encoding using a custom output size to retain the 39% reduction and encoded with 4 different settings (all 2 pass). Encode was set to 0,1,2,3 and 4. The resulting files are about 235MB each (I know the percentages don’t seem to add up, but BD-Rebuilder’s inf files confirmed the target reductions were the same: REDUCTION=.611948951309969

The resulting encode times and min/max bit rates are as follows (from BD-INFO):

Length......Avg.Video.Rate.kbps.....Max.1-Sec.Rate.kbps.....Encode_Quality............total.time
01:59.8....32,948.............................47,978..............................Original.clip............N/A
01:59.8....15,008.............................22,730..............................0..........................0:08:26
01:59.8....14,936.............................28,042..............................1..........................0:15:47
01:59.8....14,933.............................28,057..............................2..........................0:17:36
01:59.8....14,950.............................27,692..............................3..........................0:23:47
01:59.8....14,930............................28,106...............................4.........................0:48:33

Encode Quality does spread the average/max bit rates a bit as I expected. My test PC is an Intel E6750 (core 2 duo @2.66GHz), 2GB RAM @667MHz, Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit). Note that encode level 4 took 6 times as long as level 0.
I watched each output clip on an LG BD370 player connected to an LG 50’ 720P plasma TV. (I also have a PS3 connected to a Panasonic AE3000 projector with a 120’ screen I’ll test later EDIT: I also tested with the PS3/AE3000 setup - can't tell between clips.).

I had to check the file names to see which encode version I was watching as I could not tell the difference between all 5 clips. Freezing the screen during closeup shots and during explosions allowed me to see MINOR differences (more discernable facial hair, a little more detail in exploded pieces). So –if the extra time is of no consequence, you will get a SLIGHTLY better picture with higher encode values, but only if you scrutinize the image.

I know some people will argue that the overall bitrates will suffer and picture quality is therefore inherently worse with lower quality values. The human eye isn’t that good of a detector, even if the numbers indicate a difference.

I will gladly FTP the config and .m2ts files to anyone who wants to analyze further (I don’t have ability to capture good photos from the screen).

Z

PS - I will try compression to equal to DVD-5 and see what that output looks like next.

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Old 20th April 2010, 05:31   #7811  |  Link
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Hello jdobbs:

ive converted with version 33.04 *stock* reintall original version; and converted BAD_LIEUTENANT bluray version and all bonus features are too stretched and audio is out of sync.

i have restored ffdshow 3326 and stock x264 version. movie is okay, not stretched or out of sync, only bonus features. I see that bonus features are 720 x 480 SDTV resolution.

Here example with mediainfos original and converted files:

00009.m2ts (orignal)
Code:
General 
ID : 0 
Complete name : E:\BDR\BAD_LIEUTENANT\FULLDISC\BDMV\STREAM\00009.m2ts 
Format : BDAV 
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video 
File size : 2.90 GiB 
Duration : 31mn 11s 
Overall bit rate : 13.3 Mbps 
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps 

Video 
ID : 4113 (0x1011) 
Menu ID : 1 (0x1) 
Format : AVC 
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec 
Format profile : High@L4.1 
Format settings, CABAC : Yes 
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames 
Duration : 31mn 11s 
Bit rate : 12.5 Mbps 
Width : 720 pixels 
Height : 480 pixels 
Display aspect ratio : 16:9 
Frame rate : 29.970 fps 
Standard : NTSC 
Resolution : 8 bits 
Colorimetry : 4:2:0 
Scan type : MBAFF 
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.211 
Stream size : 2.73 GiB (94%) 
Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M 
Transfer characteristics : BT.601-6 525, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 525, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M 
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M 

Audio 
ID : 4352 (0x1100) 
Menu ID : 1 (0x1) 
Format : AC-3 
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 
Duration : 31mn 11s 
Bit rate mode : Constant 
Bit rate : 224 Kbps 
Channel(s) : 2 channels 
Channel positions : Front: L R 
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz 
Stream size : 50.0 MiB (2%)
00009.m2ts (converted)
Code:
General 
ID : 1 
Complete name : E:\BDR\BAD_LIEUTENANT\BD REBUILDED\REBUILDED 3304\FULLDISC\BDMV\STREAM\00009.m2ts 
Format : BDAV 
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video 
File size : 842 MiB 
Duration : 31mn 11s 
Overall bit rate : 3 776 Kbps 
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps 

Video 
ID : 4113 (0x1011) 
Menu ID : 1 (0x1) 
Format : AVC 
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec 
Format profile : Main@L4.1 
Format settings, CABAC : Yes 
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames 
Duration : 31mn 9s 
Bit rate : 3 393 Kbps 
Width : 720 pixels 
Height : 960 pixels 
Display aspect ratio : 0.909 
Frame rate : 29.970 fps 
Resolution : 8 bits 
Colorimetry : 4:2:0 
Scan type : MBAFF 
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.164 
Stream size : 756 MiB (90%) 
Writing library : x264 core 93 r1538 bd72d46 
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=0:0:0 / analyse=0:0 / me=dia / subme=0 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=tff / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=0 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=22.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=35000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / crf-max=0.0 / ip_ratio=1.10 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=0 / nal_hrd=vbr 

Audio 
ID : 4352 (0x1100) 
Menu ID : 1 (0x1) 
Format : AC-3 
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 
Duration : 31mn 11s 
Bit rate mode : Constant 
Bit rate : 224 Kbps 
Channel(s) : 2 channels 
Channel positions : Front: L R 
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz 
Stream size : 50.0 MiB (6%) 
Language : English / /
Here projetcts logs:

Code:
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[23:00:49] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
  - Source:  FULLDISC
  - Input BD size: 23,28 GB
  - Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
  - Target BD size: 22,66 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
  - One Pass ABR Mode enabled
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:00:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [23:00:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
 - [23:00:50] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
 - [23:00:50] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
   - Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
 - [23:00:50] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
 - [23:01:00] Video Encode complete
 - [23:01:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [23:01:00] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [23:01:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
 - [23:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00013 (2 of 7)
 - [23:01:04] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 3*837 frames
 - [23:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
 - [23:01:24] Video Encode complete
 - [23:01:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [23:01:24] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [23:01:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
 - [23:01:35] Reencoding: VID_00011 (3 of 7)
 - [23:01:35] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3*649 frames
 - [23:01:35] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
 - [23:02:53] Video Encode complete
 - [23:02:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [23:02:53] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [23:02:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
 - [23:03:40] Reencoding: VID_00008 (4 of 7)
 - [23:03:40] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 24*727 frames
 - [23:03:40] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
 - [23:06:27] Video Encode complete
 - [23:06:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [23:06:27] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [23:06:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
 - [23:07:18] Reencoding: VID_00012 (5 of 7)
 - [23:07:18] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 37*048 frames
 - [23:07:18] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
 - [23:10:21] Video Encode complete
 - [23:10:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [23:10:21] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [23:10:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
 - [23:11:54] Reencoding: VID_00009 (6 of 7)
 - [23:11:54] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 56*084 frames
 - [23:11:54] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
 - [23:17:25] Video Encode complete
 - [23:17:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [23:17:25] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [23:17:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [23:26:04] Reencoding: VID_00000 (7 of 7)
 - [23:26:04] Collecting video information
 - [23:26:04] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [23:26:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [23:26:04] Multiplexing M2TS
[23:35:12]PHASE ONE complete
[23:35:12]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [23:35:12] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:35:17] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[23:35:18]JOB: FULLDISC finished.
Fulldisc Infos (Conversion log):
Code:
[Status]
LABEL=FULLDISC
VERSION=v0.33.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24999965565
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24807383040
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.972870884288164
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=7
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00006]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=19761016
RATE=14585
NSIZE=19826688
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00013]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=138392860
NSIZE=45778944
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00011]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=352841124
NSIZE=141613056
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00008]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1453283431
NSIZE=270833664
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00012]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1613045205
NSIZE=310444032
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00009]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=3028043910
NSIZE=883156992
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Old 20th April 2010, 05:50   #7812  |  Link
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You upgraded X264 on your own and caused the error. Downgrade, and don't report problems that you cause for yourself.

The new X264 version has a bug related to sizing when it gets its input from an AVS... next time wait until I upgrade in the release -- that way you know it has been tested. This is a self inflicted injury.
Yes i understand. I've made just some test after trying the official released 33.04! i just want to find the trouble and trying to help you.

It's with some research that we found and resolved issues. I will submit you with official release from this issue.

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Old 20th April 2010, 10:29   #7813  |  Link
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BD-5 & BD-9 burns: Book Type must be "Normal" not "DVD-ROM"

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You will see files in BDMV\JAR folder. There really isn't much I can do -- the problem is that your player doesn't support java menus in BD-9. Your only choice would be to burn to BD-25 instead of BD-5/9. Some players won't play BD-5/9 full-backups at all. At least yours appears to play the non-java ones. All BD-25 backups should work on all players. All movie-only backups should work on players that support AVCHD. But not all players will handle full backups on BD-5/9.

Just to be careful, though, I'm only assuming that this is the issue... There's also a chance it could be the format in which it was burned, the disc, or other things. I'm doing remote analysis here -- which is always dangerous.

Did you burn manually, or did BD-RB send the burn directly to ImgBurn? The reason I ask is that there are some specific configuration parameters that have to be set in ImgBurn in order to make the disc work.
Re: BD-5 & BD-9 playback problems on standalone Blu-ray players.

Also, make sure your burner drive & DVD+R/+R DL disc's Book Type are set to "Normal" and not "DVD-ROM". Many standalone B-R players cannot read BD-5 (DVD+R) & BD-9 (DVD+R DL) discs with a Book Type of "DVD-ROM". In ImgBurn, to check & change Book Type, go to > Tools > Drive > Change Book Type. This fixed all my playback issues regardless of what brand DVD+R/+R DL I burned on (although I only recommend Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden media). Good luck!

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i've change Change Book Type to normal, & i've use verbatim
but still get same problem ' a disc with unsupported format '
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Old 20th April 2010, 19:02   #7815  |  Link
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Well then the probable cause is that your player doesnt support BD5/9
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yeah it have BDMV\JAR folder

and you said ' I'm doing remote analysis here ' not understand what you mean

and i burn it manually
and for the first title, i use same blank disc, same burning rom and same player, but it work

can you suggest what should i do ? cause i really need to make backup to BD-9
It's quite straight forward - LG players (well the one I have) will only play compressed blu ray movies on either dvd-5 or dvd+dl if they don't have java implemented. Therefore, if there is anything in the CERTIFICATE directory (it may be there but empty) or files in the BDMV\JAR, then it won't play. It's nothing to do with settings or how you burn discs. However, if you put the files (whatever their size) on a bd-r or bd-re, then they are fine.

If you mention a title that won't play, then I'm sure one of us will confirm whether it's got java. Once again, if you play the original, and there is a point at the beginning when it has an icon or picture on the screen that either slowly changes colour, gets filled in, or does something for typically 10 to 20 seconds, then that is the java loading.

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For those that keep asking “what encode setting should I use” I ran a test using “Enemy At the Gates"
so you believe that automatic doenst seem that much difference in your opinion as to 2pass mode?
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so you believe that automatic doenst seem that much difference in your opinion as to 2pass mode?
Actually, that's a good point - I was using all 2 pass tests. I personally can see a SLIGHT difference in a 1 pass vs 2 pass test. I just did the same clip, using the same ratio (39%) with automatic quality (1 pass ABR). A few scenes with lots of smoke billowing in the background looked a little blocky. Smoke and Fire tend to be where it can be noticeable becuase neither has discrete boundaries - its all shades of color and rapidly moving/changing. But that's me :-). Ultimately, do what's best for you. I posted test results so that you can get an idea of how long each takes and what you might see. Some movies I get I'll make a dvd5 backup as the quality of the original wasn't that great to begin with and a DVD5 looks just as good (i.e. Predators - great movie but very grainy). Others I want to maintain absolute pristine one-to-one backup (i.e. Patton) because the original is stunning in PQ. Balancing cost of blanks, time to convert, etc.

I recommend you take a favorite movie, use TSMUXER to cut a short clip (1-2 minutes) and try different encoding qualities to see what works best in your particular viewing environment.

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so you believe that automatic doenst seem that much difference in your opinion as to 2pass mode?
You have to be careful in your description, because "Automatic" often is two-pass mode...
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You have to be careful in your description, because "Automatic" often is two-pass mode...
You are correct :-) In this case it resulted in 1 pass but yes, I have seen 2 pass as well.

BTW - I noticed that even taking a 25GB Blu Ray movie down to AVCHD-5 STILL looks better than the same movie as a DVD on dual layer :-). You've made a great product - many thanks!

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