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Old 12th January 2018, 23:58   #48261  |  Link
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depends on your settings. so yes maybe or maybe it will take less.
don't add n image using the forum if you want someone else to see this any time soon.
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Old 13th January 2018, 00:26   #48262  |  Link
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maiden, are you taking the screenshot while paused? We need to see the stats during playback.

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yes I was i will do another
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Old 13th January 2018, 00:45   #48263  |  Link
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yes I was i will do another
new pic playing through remote desktop
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Old 13th January 2018, 00:54   #48264  |  Link
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Remote desktop is not your friend for stable video playback. That said your stats look perfect, no obvious issues. You might try enabling "use Direct3D 11 for presentation".

Also you aren't using f.lux or something similar? Any GPU monitoring software? Try with them off if you are.
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Old 13th January 2018, 01:06   #48265  |  Link
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Hi and thanks.
use Direct3D 11 for presentation". (will this improve judder)

Not using f.lux on HTPC or any gpu monitoring as long as it is not auto applied.
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Old 13th January 2018, 01:44   #48266  |  Link
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ok, something odd going on her for me, my GPU suddenly cant handel NGU sharp, its maxing it out at 90% and i'm getting intermittent black screens, no idea what going on here, my cpu is fine, only running about 10%, this is after a reboot and a reinstalled of MADVR, EVR renderer is fine, just Madvr.
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Old 13th January 2018, 02:10   #48267  |  Link
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be interested to know anyone elses AMD GPU stats running madvr

my scaling settings: everything else is default in MADVR apart from I have no trade performance options ticked.

chroma upscale - lanczos
downscale - lanzos
image upscale - NGU sharp medium

GPU= 90%

If I drop downscale to lanczos gpu runs at 45%

I dont really want to max my GPU out like this so I'll have to stay away from NGU, problem is I dont actually know if this has always been like this as a second reboot fixed the black screen and everyting is playing normal now, does anything one 90% is too high for NGU sharp medium on an RX 550?
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Old 13th January 2018, 08:09   #48268  |  Link
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Well i tried everything, and there is basically 0, not 5% just 0 difference in IQ with quite high settings in madVR MPHC vs VMR 9 Renderless HQ

Here are the screenshots for anyone interested or in doubt

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Old 13th January 2018, 08:37   #48269  |  Link
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Sorry but that's just not true at all. There are plenty of differences depending on what's selected and the content at play.
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Old 13th January 2018, 08:59   #48270  |  Link
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and your point being? we should stop using madvr based on your 2 screenshots? I dont understand the point of such posts.
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Old 13th January 2018, 08:59   #48271  |  Link
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Sorry but that's just not true at all. There are plenty of differences depending on what's selected and the content at play.
I know, i don't deny that madVR works, just in my scenario it does not make any difference, OR the KM player DOES use the madVR somehow at default instead of the regular rendered (impossible since it perform much better)

i'm out of ideas, ill try new settings with a help of a forum user
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Old 13th January 2018, 09:01   #48272  |  Link
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and your point being? we should stop using madvr based on your 2 screenshots? I dont understand the point of such posts.
I got alot more screenshots, from different videos, same results, either i mess up something, or it DOES NOT work as well when you use it for 4k playback/videos on 1080p monitor.
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Old 13th January 2018, 09:54   #48273  |  Link
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I believe you were using Bicubic75 for downscaling? That would explain it. Other high quality renders might use something very similar to madVR's Bicubic75 for downscaling but nothing else uses anything as good as SSIM or Jinc.

Edit: I should add that madVR's greatest strength is SD at 1080p or 720/1080 at 4K. SSIM is very impressive but other than that it is hard to be obviously better when downscaling, downscaling looks pretty good even with the old fast methods like bicubic or even bilinear.
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Old 13th January 2018, 10:44   #48274  |  Link
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I believe you were using Bicubic75 for downscaling? That would explain it. Other high quality renders might use something very similar to madVR's Bicubic75 for downscaling but nothing else uses anything as good as SSIM or Jinc.

Edit: I should add that madVR's greatest strength is SD at 1080p or 720/1080 at 4K. SSIM is very impressive but other than that it is hard to be obviously better when downscaling, downscaling looks pretty good even with the old fast methods like bicubic or even bilinear.
What's about DXVA downscaling, is that good or bad in comparison with Jinc/Bicubic/Bilinear..., my iGPU can only afford DXVA downscaling of 4K
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DXVA is usually similar to Bicubic75 or perhaps Lanczos 3. It is dependent on the GPU hardware and its drivers. Jinc and SSIM are significantly better than any DXVA scaling.
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Old 13th January 2018, 11:53   #48276  |  Link
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Q: I noticed that sometimes madVR reported "dropped/repeated frames per time" but now I don't see that feature on the HUD. On what does it depend on?
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Q: I noticed that sometimes madVR reported "dropped/repeated frames per time" but now I don't see that feature on the HUD. On what does it depend on?
Hrm I seem to have triggered it when I changed to 75Hz. Does it not support odd frequences?

update: it's unlikely to be that though since I had seen the feature before on other ones.
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Old 13th January 2018, 14:33   #48278  |  Link
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Hi, are there any tricks to searching on this forum, its no surprise that stuff comes up over and over again as you just cant search for it. Here is an example. If you want to search for 3D issues, "3D" is too short, "3D MVC" is unrecognized or too short, "3DMVC" only brings back 3 results. Same problem with FSE, 3D FSE etc.
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Old 13th January 2018, 17:08   #48279  |  Link
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Finally moved to win10 fall update with nvidia 390.65 (gtx 1080). Everything works well, HDR switches automatically, 3D works properly (only on fse though). Have a weird minor problem, my mouse pointer disappears when I am watching 4K+HDR on fse. I dont want to disable fse as 3D definitely needs fse on my setup. Not sure if its something to do with madvr or in win10.

I have tested this problem on both my htpc and gaming pc. Both are on win10 1709 (fully updated), nvidia 390.65 (gtx 1080). MPC-HC(x64) + madvr (0.92.10).

I dont have mouse pointer trails enabled.
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Old 13th January 2018, 18:40   #48280  |  Link
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Finally moved to win10 fall update with nvidia 390.65 (gtx 1080). Everything works well, HDR switches automatically, 3D works properly (only on fse though). Have a weird minor problem, my mouse pointer disappears when I am watching 4K+HDR on fse. I dont want to disable fse as 3D definitely needs fse on my setup. Not sure if its something to do with madvr or in win10.

I have tested this problem on both my htpc and gaming pc. Both are on win10 1709 (fully updated), nvidia 390.65 (gtx 1080). MPC-HC(x64) + madvr (0.92.10).

I dont have mouse pointer trails enabled.
You can use profiles with MadVR and only have FSE on with 3D. That's what I do.
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