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list all display modes madVR may switch to: 1080p24, 1080p50, 1080p60
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smooth motion is kind of useless on 144hz monitor put doubling to always when needed- yeah slightly less artifacts still think sr2 AR looks good on solid colors, dunno maybe it's my monitor and eyes combination creates this placebo thin and sharpen edges is meh, agree error diffusion 2 is always on |
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I personally set the dithering option last. I choose Error Diffusion 2 over Ordered Dithering if I've got performance to spare.
That said, at my regular 8 bit output, I can discern no difference whatsoever between them from my normal viewing spot. I think I had to lower the bits to 6 or so before I saw the difference with my nose glued to the screen. So... ED2 for me is pure placebo but I don't mind as it makes me feel like the quality is better (same thing with my audiophile hobby). Hmm... ED2 is by and large regarded as "better", right? Last edited by Uoppi; 25th November 2016 at 18:04. |
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I like ED1 more with my current monitor but I liked ED2 more with my previous one. Not that I feel too strongly about it, they are both good and very similar.
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Seems to be plenty of knowledgeable people on this thread so I'll take a chance someone here can help me. I have a JVC-RS600 projector and HTPC and recently sold my Oppo blu-ray player thinking I can simply rip my BRs to the HTPC and use jRiver/MadVr to scale 1080p to 2160, where my projector will then take it the rest of the way to an e-shifted 4k picture.
Even with simple doubling of sbrx-100 for both luma and chroma, image enhancements SR-3. I get a great picture, and I would be fine if it wasn't for just one thing: My eyes are pretty sensitive to motion judder. Mind you, my projector does 23.976 fps and I am able to playback my content at the proper FPS (i believe it is correct anyway) with 0% clock deviation from player to display. However, my white-whale exists as a video signal that looks like film with the motion smoothness of 60hz/120hz but without that fake-plasticky-SOE. My projector, even at the lowest CMD (clear motion-drive) setting, looks like a mexican soap opera. Even with an Oppo 103D blu-ray player, I still experience the same (if not more) judder than when playing movies from my HTPC -- therefore I sold it. I've been told a professional calibration could possibly reduce the judder/motionblur I experience and as a result I have a guy coming out in January. In the meantime, I intend to keep tinkering with madVr and NGU. I only have a Radaeon R9 280 (3GB OC X-fire something) and it does 1080p ->2160p via sbxr-100 (luma and chrome) with SR-3 without any problems. My next step is going to be to audition a gtx 1080 and see if that helps any. Has anyone any advice for smoothing out the motion a little without trashing my film-quality image? Thank in advance! |
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Error Diffusion – option 2 — all ident option 1, only monitor support 6 bit. |
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25th November 2016, 20:21 | #40730 | Link | |
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I don't use every suggested setting from this guide or know if they are accurate or not but on my wide gamut display, ED1 looks better. On my gaming TN monitor, I can not tell the difference so I just use ordered on that. YMMV. And to people asking about the "best" settings... If you would like someone to suggest settings to you, please provide your PC specs, monitor/TV model#, etc., and if you can calibrate your display at the very minimum. In the end, trust in your eyes. If you can't tell the difference, does it matter? @madshi I was testing the HDR functionality of madvr using some samples from the demo-uhd site (life of pi) and tried the "film & tv" app from the microsoft store and it recognizes the hdr video and does its own thing. I was wondering what it was doing since I couldn't set madvr to display the same way? |
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Clock deviation -0.00453%
Rendering 32.48ms chroma upscaling: NGU Low image downscaling: Bicubic 150 AR image doubling: NGU low chroma doubling: NGU low image upscaling: Catmull-Rom AR refinements: none Scaling 1080p24 -> 2160p24 To my eye, things look good. I'm not sure what the significance of the rendering time is, but so far nothing is obviously broken and picture looks good. ALSO, these random questions to post are b.s. |
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EVGA GTX 660ti
1. ON MOUSE OUT Artifact removal: - reduce banding artifacts: on - default debanding strength: medium - strenght during fade in/out: high scaling algorithms: - Chroma upscaling: super-xbr 100 AR - image upscaling: Lanczos3 AR - upsacling refinement: SR 3 AR / refine the image only once after upscaling is complete smooth motion: on dithering: ED 1 / use colored noise / change dither for every frame trade quality for performance: only check "don't rerender frames when fade in/out is detected" 2. ON MOUSE OVER Artifact removal: - reduce banding artifacts: on - default debanding strength: medium - strenght during fade in/out: high scaling algorithms: - Chroma upscaling: NGU-low - image upscaling: Catmull-Rom AR - upsacling refinement: soften edges 1 and add grain 1 - on smooth motion: on dithering: ED 1 / use colored noise / change dither for every frame trade quality for performance: only check "don't rerender frames when fade in/out is detected" Train to Busan 1280x694 -> 1680x1050 - super-xbr 100 AR: 12ms - NGU-low: 15ms http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/191729 The Treatment 1280x536 -> 1680x1050 - super-xbr 100 AR: 9ms - NGU-low: 12ms http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/191816 For me, super-xbr is sharper. |
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@Growdelan
If you are only using NGU on chroma, I wouldn't bother using it. NGU amazing for the luma doubling. Try these settings:
I'm curious if the GTX660ti can handle these settings for that particular video. If it can, does it look any better? |
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My old settings chroma: super-xbr 100 AR, upscaling image: lanczos3 without doubling vs your suggestion http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/191825 first setting, still look sharp |
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