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Old 18th March 2021, 01:31   #30461  |  Link
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Thanks for info, I also noticed the GTX1660 prices are high.
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Not only that ... the 1660 was the cheapest solution supporting B-Frames on HEVC (when I bought it over a year ago), giving you even more Quality per megabyte
I've read the Turing NVENC encoder gives improvements in quality, in addition to B Frame support. Is that correct? Or is it just the B-frames that is making the difference?

I do know that the GTX1660, GTX1660ti, RTX20x0/30x0, and GTX1650Super use the Turing NVENC chip. But the original GTX1650 still uses the Volta (basically Pascal) encoder so it lacks B-frames and performs like the GTX10x0 line.

I've never really done a side by side comparison as I've never had a GTX10X0 card, but I can say I have notice a marked improvement in video quality when using NVENC with my GTX1660ti vs my GTX970.
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Old 19th March 2021, 01:11   #30465  |  Link
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META file bug?

I'm getting an error in the META file. BDRB thinks the video is a .264 file and puts ****.264 for muxing in the META file. The original file is .hevc and BDRB also correctly saves that file as .hevc but puts wrong extension in the META file.
This has only happened to me in the latest version of BDRB and I haven't yet run it with an older version. Will try also another title to see if it is repeatable.

Also want to point out that I do know I have the wrong avisynth installed. The reason for that is to get compability with other software. Of course it could be this that makes it error out but because I have never gotten this error before it might not be related and
before I test to install the right version of avisynth I will try earlier version of BDRB and also check for another title to try.

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[03-14-21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.21
[19:44:25] Source:  Cinema Paradiso (Theatrical) 4K UHD
  - Input BD size: 90,40 GB
  - Approximate total content: [03:35:16.728]
  - Target BD size: 47,07 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
  - UHD-BD source detected.
  - Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:44:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [19:44:27] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 7)
 - [19:44:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [19:44:33] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 471 frames
   - Bitrate: 1 038 Kbs
 - [19:44:33] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
 - [19:44:36] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
 - [19:44:38] Video Encode complete
 - [19:44:38] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [19:44:38] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [19:44:42] Processing: VID_00001 (2 of 7)
 - [19:44:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
 - [20:22:05] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
   - Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 176 826 frames
   - Bitrate: 43 840 Kbs
 - [20:22:05] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
 - [20:41:29] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:54:41] Video Encode complete
 - [17:54:41] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (ita): Keeping original audio
   - Track 4353 (ita): Keeping original audio
   - Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [17:54:41] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [18:08:22] Processing: VID_00005 (3 of 7)
 - [18:08:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
 - [18:08:41] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
   - Source Video: HEVC, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 59,940fps, 98 692 frames
   - Bitrate: 1 858 Kbs
 - [18:08:41] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
 - [18:55:10] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
 - [19:34:59] Video Encode complete
 - [19:34:59] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (ita): Keeping original audio
 - [19:34:59] Multiplexing M2TS
EXIT CODE: -2
 - Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00005.meta
 - Can't open file: D:\WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00005.AVS.264
[19:35:03] - Failed to build structure, aborted[03-19-21] Checking System Settings
  - BD-Rebuilder v0.61.21
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - Working Path Free Space: 113,03GB
  - AVISYNTH Version: 3.6.1.0, not recommended version
  - LAVFILTERS:  Ok
  - X264:  Ok
  - X265:  Ok
  - AFTEN:  Ok
  - FAAC:  Ok
  - MP4BOX:  Ok
  - WAVI:  Ok
  - TSMUXER:  Ok
  - FRIMEncode:  Ok
  - FRIMDecode:  Ok
[03-19-21] Systems Settings Check complete
Original file:

Code:
General
ID                                       : 0 (0x0)
Complete name                            : A:\UHDBD\Cinema Paradiso (Theatrical) 4K UHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00005.clpi
Format                                   : Blu-ray Clip info
File size                                : 9.52 KiB
Duration                                 : 27 min 26 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 4 521 kb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 109 Mb/s
OverallBitRate_Precision_Min             : 4521253
OverallBitRate_Precision_Max             : 4521256

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 27 min 26 s
Bit rate                                 : 4 139 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.033
Stream size                              : 812 MiB
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
format_identifier                        : HDMV
Source                                   : 00005.m2ts

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 27 min 26 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 37.7 MiB
Language                                 : Italian
Service kind                             : Complete Main
bsid                                     : 8
Dialog Normalization                     : -31
Dialog Normalization                     : -31 dB
compr                                    : -0.28
compr                                    : -0.28 dB
dsurmod                                  : 1
dsurmod                                  : Not Dolby Surround encoded
acmod                                    : 2
lfeon                                    : 0
dialnorm_Average                         : -31
dialnorm_Average                         : -31 dB
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -31
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -31 dB
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -31
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -31 dB
dialnorm_Count                           : 2389
compr_Average                            : -2.42
compr_Average                            : -2.42 dB
compr_Minimum                            : -13.84
compr_Minimum                            : -13.84 dB
compr_Maximum                            : 6.02
compr_Maximum                            : 6.02 dB
compr_Count                              : 2380
dynrng_Average                           : -2.38
dynrng_Average                           : -2.38 dB
dynrng_Minimum                           : -13.68
dynrng_Minimum                           : -13.68 dB
dynrng_Maximum                           : 5.88
dynrng_Maximum                           : 5.88 dB
dynrng_Count                             : 2386
format_identifier                        : AC-3
Source                                   : 00005.m2ts

Text
ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : 144
Duration                                 : 26 min 46 s
Delay relative to video                  : 5 s 72 ms
Language                                 : English
Source                                   : 00005.m2ts
Last command:

Code:
"C:\Vidsoft\BD_Rebuilder\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -probesize 100MB -i "A:\UHDBD\Cinema Paradiso (Theatrical) 4K UHD\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts" -an -pix_fmt yuv420p10le -f yuv4mpegpipe -strict -1 - | "C:\Vidsoft\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x265-64.exe" - --preset medium --profile main10 --uhd-bd --repeat-headers --vbv-bufsize 45000 --vbv-maxrate 48000 --colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709 --fps 59.97 --sar 1:1 --qpfile "D:\WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00005.CHP" --keyint 60 --bitrate 1858 --y4m --stats "D:\WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00005.AVS.hevc.stats" --pass 2 --output "D:\WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00005.AVS.hevc"
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Old 19th March 2021, 20:09   #30466  |  Link
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I've read the Turing NVENC encoder gives improvements in quality, in addition to B Frame support. Is that correct? Or is it just the B-frames that is making the difference?

I do know that the GTX1660, GTX1660ti, RTX20x0/30x0, and GTX1650Super use the Turing NVENC chip. But the original GTX1650 still uses the Volta (basically Pascal) encoder so it lacks B-frames and performs like the GTX10x0 line.

I've never really done a side by side comparison as I've never had a GTX10X0 card, but I can say I have notice a marked improvement in video quality when using NVENC with my GTX1660ti vs my GTX970.
Taken from Wikipedia

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Three types of pictures (or frames) are used in video compression: I, P, and B frames.

An I‑frame (Intra-coded picture) is a complete image, like a JPG or BMP image file.

A P‑frame (Predicted picture) holds only the changes in the image from the previous frame. For example, in a scene where a car moves across a stationary background, only the car's movements need to be encoded. The encoder does not need to store the unchanging background pixels in the P‑frame, thus saving space. P‑frames are also known as delta‑frames.

A B‑frame (Bidirectional predicted picture) saves even more space by using differences between the current frame and both the preceding and following frames to specify its content.

P and B frames are also called Inter frames. The order in which the I, P and B frames are arranged is called the Group of pictures.
So HEVC created with pre-Turing only consists of P- and I-Frames. Since B-Frames are even smaller, the same quality setting should result in smaller video-filesize
Or the other way around you can increase the quality level to reach the same filesize
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Old 19th March 2021, 23:26   #30467  |  Link
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A few questions...

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Really appreciated. Thanks!
No worries! Really appreciate your hard work!

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[03/14/21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.21
[13:28:09] Source: THE_FIFTH_ELEMENT_00001
- Input BD size: 35.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:05:53.546]
- Target BD size: 25.00 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), CQM
- Decoding/Frame serving: NVENCC
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[13:28:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:28:09] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [13:28:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [13:31:58] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 181,104 frames
- [13:31:58] Performing CQM Prediction...
- Analyzing 6.00
[13:32:00] - Failed video encode, aborted
Can you look into why all my 1080p titles I'm trying to reencode to HEVC fail at the CQM prediction? I can use FIXED_CRF=n, but it's a trial and error to get the sizing I want. The standard 2160p UHD titles I've tried perform the CQM prediction as expected.

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As for the levels -- BD-RB leaves it to the encoder (both have defaults set at auto). But I'm surprised they are different, since the settings for encoding are virtually identical. The level is usually influenced by the maximum bitrate selected by BD-RB. But it is the same for both encoders. I'll take a look at it and see why they are different.
Any ideas on the difference in the levels (L4.1 vs L5.1) between the two encoders? Does it affect quality? Can/should L5.1 be forced in NVENC? x265 seems to use L5.1 on everything.

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A couple things I noticed with Convert BD to UHD... I tried with Movie and Menus selected, and in the log it shows "Converting to UHD-BD (HEVC)". But when selecting "Movie Only" mode the same log notation is not shown. I do have "Convert BD to UHD-BD (HEVC)" selected. The resulting job is in fact HEVC, it's just not shown in the log as in M&M mode.
Probably just a typo but thought I'd mention it. That's it for now! Thanks again!

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Any ideas on the difference in the levels (L4.1 vs L5.1) between the two encoders? Does it affect quality? Can/should L5.1 be forced in NVENC? x265 seems to use L5.1 on everything.!
The levels really have nothing to do with the actual encoding. It doesn't provide any settings. It indicates the capabilities of the encoded video. It is up to the user to set the encoding parameters so that they match the spec for that particular level.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_E...ers_and_levels
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The levels really have nothing to do with the actual encoding. It doesn't provide any settings. It indicates the capabilities of the encoded video. It is up to the user to set the encoding parameters so that they match the spec for that particular level.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_E...ers_and_levels
Exactly. It really just a tag the accompanies the video. I'd still like to understand, though, why X265 and NVENCC tag different levels when the settings (max bitrate, etc) are the same.
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Can you look into why all my 1080p titles I'm trying to reencode to HEVC fail at the CQM prediction? I can use FIXED_CRF=n, but it's a trial and error to get the sizing I want. The standard 2160p UHD titles I've tried perform the CQM prediction as expected.
I'm at a loss. I use the prediction setting all the time (almost every day), and I've never had a problem.

Something you could try:

1. Set BD-RB up to run with the prediction.
2. Let it start and then fail.
3. Go to the BD Rebuilder folder and look for a file called LASTCMD.TXT
4. Open the file (with NOTEPAD) and cut the command line that is represented there.
5. Open a CMD window, and paste the command.
6. Run it and see what error you get.

Then mark/cut-and-paste the information from the CMD window to this thread so I can see the error.
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Can you post the META file that causes the issue you reported? Just to be clear, the encode went correctly and created a .hevc file -- but when it tried to rebuild the META referenced a .264 file, right?

I suspect it has something to do with this:

- Rate/Length: 59,940fps, 98 692 frames
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Can you post the META file that causes the issue you reported? Just to be clear, the encode went correctly and created a .hevc file -- but when it tried to rebuild the META referenced a .264 file, right?

I suspect it has something to do with this:

- Rate/Length: 59,940fps, 98 692 frames
You are correct. I accidentally deleted the workfolder so I had to redo. To save time I switched encoder and did a faster encode for extras. And it was repeatable. This time it errored out on a different one, MUX_00007.meta.

Here comes the content of it:

Code:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --hdmv-descriptors --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500 --start-time=27000000
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "B:\WORK\FULLDISC\WORKFILES\VID_00007.AVS.264", fps=59.94, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "B:\WORK\FULLDISC\WORKFILES\00007.track_4352.AC3", lang=ita
S_HDMV/PGS, "B:\WORK\FULLDISC\WORKFILES\00007.track_4608.sup",lang=eng
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The levels really have nothing to do with the actual encoding. It doesn't provide any settings. It indicates the capabilities of the encoded video. It is up to the user to set the encoding parameters so that they match the spec for that particular level.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_E...ers_and_levels
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Exactly. It really just a tag that accompanies the video. I'd still like to understand, though, why X265 and NVENCC tag different levels when the settings (max bitrate, etc) are the same.
So I did The Fifth Element 1080p/HEVC again with both decoders since I had deleted jobs/logs and wanted to post the results below to possibly help you in determining what the differences are.

x265: I bolded the encoder settings in the MediaInfo below showing the level and tier settings that I assume tell the encoder what level/tier to use.
Code:
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[03/22/21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.21
[11:21:03] Source:  THE_FIFTH_ELEMENT_00001
  - Input BD size: 35.37 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:05:53.546]
  - Target BD size: 22.95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Auto Quality: Very Good (Very Fast), ABR
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way]
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[11:21:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [11:21:06] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
 - [11:21:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
 - [11:24:53] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 181,104 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,315 Kbs
 - [11:24:53] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:57:33] Video Encode complete
 - [15:57:33] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[15:57:33]PHASE ONE complete
[15:57:33]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [15:57:33] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:58:09] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[15:58:10] JOB: THE_FIFTH_ELEMENT finished.
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MediaInfo:

General
Complete name                  : C:\Users\eM-SSD\Videos\HEVC\THE_FIFTH_ELEMENT\\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls
Format                         : Blu-ray Playlist
File size                      : 456 Bytes
Duration                       : 2 h 5 min
Overall bit rate mode          : Variable
Overall bit rate               : 0 b/s

Video
ID                             : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)
Format                         : HEVC
Format/Info                    : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                 : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID                       : 36
Duration                       : 2 h 5 min
Bit rate                       : 22.0 Mb/s
Width                          : 1 920 pixels
Height                         : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate                     : 23.976 (23976/1000) FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.442
Stream size                    : 19.3 GiB
Writing library                : x265 3.2.1+3-b4b2ecac21f6:[Windows][GCC 9.2.0][64 bit] 10bit
Encoding settings              : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=4 / numa-pools=16 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=1920x1080 / interlace=0 / total-frames=0 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=1 / ref=3 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / no-open-gop / min-keyint=1 / keyint=24 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=20 / lookahead-slices=6 / scenecut=40 / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=0 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=1 / no-limit-modes / me=1 / subme=2 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=0:0 / sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=3 / selective-sao=4 / early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=0.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=abr / bitrate=15315 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 / vbv-maxrate=48000 / vbv-bufsize=45000 / vbv-init=0.9 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=2 / aq-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=1 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=1 / transfer=1 / colormatrix=1 / chromaloc=0 / display-window=0 / cll=0,0 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / no-hdr / no-hdr-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=5 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00
Color range                    : Limited
Color primaries                : BT.709
Transfer characteristics       : BT.709
Matrix coefficients            : BT.709
format_identifier              : HDMV
Source                         : 00000.m2ts / 00000.m2ts
NVENCC: The NVENC encoder doesn't show as much info, let alone what settings are used. I'm assuming again that NVENC sets the level/tier automatically depending on the file being encoded, and x265 requires specific settings? I know you said that both are set to default settings so I'll leave that to you to figure out.

Code:
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[03/22/21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.21
[16:54:48] Source:  THE_FIFTH_ELEMENT_00001
  - Input BD size: 35.37 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:05:53.546]
  - Target BD size: 22.95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Auto Quality: Very Good (Very Fast), ABR
  - Decoding/Frame serving: NVENCC
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[16:54:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [16:54:49] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
 - [16:54:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
 - [16:58:09] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 181,104 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,315 Kbs
 - [16:58:09] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
 - [17:12:05] Video Encode complete
 - [17:12:05] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[17:12:05]PHASE ONE complete
[17:12:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [17:12:05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[17:12:42] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[17:12:43] JOB: THE_FIFTH_ELEMENT finished.
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MediaInfo:

General
Complete name                  : C:\Users\eM-SSD\Videos\HEVC\THE_FIFTH_ELEMENT\\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls
Format                         : Blu-ray Playlist
File size                      : 456 Bytes
Duration                       : 2 h 5 min
Overall bit rate mode          : Variable
Overall bit rate               : 0 b/s

Video
ID                             : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)
Format                         : HEVC
Format/Info                    : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                 : Main 10@L4.1@High
Codec ID                       : 36
Duration                       : 2 h 5 min
Bit rate                       : 22.1 Mb/s
Width                          : 1 920 pixels
Height                         : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate                     : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.445
Stream size                    : 19.4 GiB
Color range                    : Limited
Color primaries                : BT.709
Transfer characteristics       : BT.709
Matrix coefficients            : BT.709
format_identifier              : HDMV
Source                         : 00000.m2ts / 00000.m2ts
So there you go. Hope this helps you determine what the differences are, and whether it makes any difference quality wise. I would like to continue using NVENC just in the speed difference alone, so if it can be set like x265 even better. Or if I shouldn't worry about it then that's ok too. Thanks again for your help.
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Old 23rd March 2021, 06:01   #30474  |  Link
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I'm at a loss. I use the prediction setting all the time (almost every day), and I've never had a problem.

Something you could try:

1. Set BD-RB up to run with the prediction.
2. Let it start and then fail.
3. Go to the BD Rebuilder folder and look for a file called LASTCMD.TXT
4. Open the file (with NOTEPAD) and cut the command line that is represented there.
5. Open a CMD window, and paste the command.
6. Run it and see what error you get.

Then mark/cut-and-paste the information from the CMD window to this thread so I can see the error.
Here ya go...

C:\Windows\system32>"C:\Users\eM-SSD\Downloads\BD-RBV06121\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avs -i "C:\USERS\EM-SSD\VIDEOS\HEVC\WORKFILES\TEMP.AVS" --codec hevc --preset performance --profile main10 --output-depth 10 --repeat-headers --colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709 --qp-min 0 --multipass 2pass-full --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 17.55 --aq --aq-temporal --sar 1:1 --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 45000 --max-bitrate 48000 --gop-len 24 -o "C:\USERS\EM-SSD\VIDEOS\HEVC\WORKFILES\TEMP.265"
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C:\USERS\EM-SSD\VIDEOS\HEVC\WORKFILES\TEMP.265
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avs: invalid clip.
avs: DGSource: Cannot open index file!
avs: (C:\USERS\EM-SSD\VIDEOS\HEVC\WORKFILES\TEMP.AVS, line 3)
failed to initialize file reader(s).
Failed to open input file.
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Hmm... DGSource as the input... I'll check that out.

Can you post the contents of TEMP.AVS?
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Hmm... DGSource as the input... I'll check that out.

Can you post the contents of TEMP.AVS?
I figured it out. I recently upgraded my dgdecnv2053 to the newer v2053.0.0.228. When I opened the TEMP.AVS I noticed it's reference to the new version folder (I had renamed it), but forgot to copy the license file over from the old version. DUH! Don't know why VBR mode worked and CQM didn't, but it's all good now. Soory about that Chief!

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Are there any advantages of DGDecNV compared to DirectshowSource regarding speed/quality?

I also have a licence for DGDecNV, but I usually use Directshow as it seems more compatible...
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Errors and... errors

1. Installed latest version and everything as instructed including all recommended components in proper order (Win 10)
2. Registered mscomctl.ocx successfully (as Admin)
3. Made sure mscomctl.ocx is in both \system32 and \sysWOW64 and registered properly.
4. When running BDRB.exe as Admin getting error message that mscomctl.ocx or one if it's dependencies is not properly installed or is missing, despite being successfully registered.
5. Installed VisualBasic6 as per some comment, but no luck.
6. If running BDRB as non-admin, the program tries to config LAV which had been properly installed and already configured during installation and BDRB cannot due it saying I have to run it as Admin (see above). Basically running in circles.
7. Running out of options. Any thoughts?
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1. Installed latest version and everything as instructed including all recommended components in proper order (Win 10)
2. Registered mscomctl.ocx successfully (as Admin)
3. Made sure mscomctl.ocx is in both \system32 and \sysWOW64 and registered properly.
4. When running BDRB.exe as Admin getting error message that mscomctl.ocx or one if it's dependencies is not properly installed or is missing, despite being successfully registered.
5. Installed VisualBasic6 as per some comment, but no luck.
6. If running BDRB as non-admin, the program tries to config LAV which had been properly installed and already configured during installation and BDRB cannot due it saying I have to run it as Admin (see above). Basically running in circles.
7. Running out of options. Any thoughts?
You don't have Bitdefender AV, do you? I have it and it can sometimes interfere with programs saving to "secure" folder and forces you to whitelist them programs.. Maybe other AVs have this "feature" also?

Probably another issue for you though.. Just putting the idea out there ^_^

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I wish it was that easy. I disabled security programs with no effect on this issue. Hopefully, someone can reproduce it and resolve
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