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Old 12th June 2008, 03:54   #5061  |  Link
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if you dont use eac3to for demuxing or encoding from the source then you have to add the delay yourself, because the delay is determined from its position in the source. so when you use another program for demuxing the audio and only after that use eac3to for encoding then eac3to of course doesnt know how the relationship of that track in the source to the video stream was.

The thing is when ever I have a delay, say in a EVO file, if I demux the ES streams from the container with EVOdemux then run them through eac3to it seems to remove the delay but my streams always play fine and in synch. Actually when I let eac3to process delay it sometimes makes my files out of synch after remuxing with tsMuxeR. To be safe if my streams have delay reported by eac3to I always demux to get rid of the delay. It has seemed to work every time for me.
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Old 12th June 2008, 18:59   #5062  |  Link
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@madshi

FYI, "ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD" build 113 TrueHD 7.1 decodes are bit-perfect, byte-by-byte identical with libav.

so, looks like the ArcSoft decoder is very interesting.
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Old 12th June 2008, 20:41   #5063  |  Link
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madshi, would it be possible that you could output more of the undocumented switches (either here or in eac3to) ? I have a problem with a .m2ts file and am looking for that switch to ingore possible errors now, but since its not documented in eac3to I cant find it.
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Old 13th June 2008, 02:42   #5064  |  Link
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hi guys, i have 3 little question about eac3to



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Code:
wine --version
wine-1.0-rc3
wine /home/earl/.wine/drive_c/Programme/eac3to_2-46/eac3to.exe z:/movie.m2ts 1: video.mkv
Code:
M2TS, 1 video track, 5 audio tracks, 1:45:58
1: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
2: RAW/PCM, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz
3: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -28dB
4: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz
5: AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz
6: AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz
Hooking WriteConsoleA failed (Erfolg).
[v01] Extracting video track number 1...
[v01] Muxing video to Matroska...
[v01] Starting DirectShow conversion failed.
Aborted at file position 1409024.
in a real windows it runs fine

wine /home/earl/.wine/drive_c/Programme/eac3to_2-46/eac3to.exe -test
Code:
Sonic Audio Decoder (2.46.0.0) doesn't seem to be installed
Haali Media Splitter (2008-3-29) is installed
Surcode DTS Encoder (1.0.23.0) is installed
MkvToolnix (v2.2.0) is installed
do i need anything to let eac3to create the .mkv file ? or is it a problem with wine, i hope not ..





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Code:
eac3to 1.evo+2.evo 2: d:\abc_movie.mkv 4: d:\abc_4audio.eac3 5: d:\abc_5audio.eac3 6: d:\abc_6audio.eac3
EVO, 2 video tracks, 5 audio tracks, 6 subtitle tracks, 2:12:34
1: Joined EVO file
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
3: VC-1, 480p30 /1.001 (3:2), -80ms
4: E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 1536kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -80ms
5: E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 768kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -80ms
6: E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 768kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -80ms
7: E-AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -80ms
8: E-AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -11ms
9: Subtitle
10: Subtitle
11: Subtitle
12: Subtitle
13: Subtitle
14: Subtitle
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a05] Extracting audio track number 5...
[a06] Extracting audio track number 6...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a06] Removing dialog normalization...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Removing dialog normalization...
[a06] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a04] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a05] Removing dialog normalization...
[a05] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a04] Creating file "d:\abc_4audio.eac3"...
[a05] Creating file "d:\abc_5audio.eac3 "...
[a06] Creating file "d:\abc_6audio.eac3 "...
what does pulldown flag mean ? what have i to do if i mux the video into .mkv ?




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"[a04] Applying (E-)AC3 delay..."
i convert the .eac3 to .ac3, and i will mux it with mkvmerge with the abc_movie.mkv file, what have i to do with the "-80ms delay" ?
.... i must set -80 ms in the mkvmerge(gui) ? or does eac3to change anything on the delay ?
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Old 13th June 2008, 04:46   #5065  |  Link
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LPCM to DTS-help

I just tried to convert a LPCM track @ approx 7MB/s to DTS @1536kbps using eac3to with eac3toGUI. I used the sonic filter and Surcode is intstalled on my PC. Everything started fine, the single 5GB LPCM file was split to six single channels by eac3to then the recode began and finished after about 15 minutes. I then tried to load the file in tsMuxeR but it came back "cannot detect stream", any ideas?

Also, in eac3toGUI the default output was AC3, I changed it to DTS.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 13th June 2008, 08:11   #5066  |  Link
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The (E-)AC3 reader didn't receive the format information.

I've been using eac3to for some time with no problems on both BD and HD-DVD. Just starting tonight I get the following error:

Code:
D:\LIAR_LIAR>D:\HDDVDTL\eac3to feature.evo
The (E-)AC3 reader didn't receive the format information.
The (E-)AC3 reader didn't receive the format information.
The (E-)AC3 reader didn't receive the format information.
EVO, 1 video track, 2 subtitle tracks, 1:25:56
1: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
2: Subtitle
3: Subtitle

D:\LIAR_LIAR>
Here is another example:

Code:
D:\THE_LOST_CITY>D:\HDDVDTL\eac3to PEVOB_1.evo+PEVOB_2.evo
The (E-)AC3 reader didn't receive the format information.
This doesn't seem to be a valid (E-)AC3 stream.
The format of the source file could not be detected.

D:\THE_LOST_CITY>
And one more just to be sure:

Code:
D:\LICENSE_TO_WED>D:\HDDVDTL\eac3to feature_01.evo+feature_02.evo
The (E-)AC3 reader didn't receive the format information.
The (E-)AC3 reader didn't receive the format information.
The (E-)AC3 reader didn't receive the format information.
The format of the source file could not be detected.

D:\LICENSE_TO_WED>
I checked my codecs and utils with -test, and all seems okay.

Code:
D:\HDDVDTL>eac3to -test
Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 7 or older) works fine
Sonic Audio Decoder (4.3.0.169) works fine
Haali Media Splitter (2008-3-29) is installed
Surcode DTS Encoder (1.0.23.0) is installed
MkvToolnix (v2.2.0) is installed

D:\HDDVDTL>
Even if I read directly from the HD-DVD disc, I get the same error. Different titles from other of my HD-DVD discs give the same error too.

Did a check disk, and HDD is fine. Nero is v7.11.10.0. Finally, I'm using Windows XP Pro SP3. And yes, everything was working fine even after I installed SP3... at least for a while.

Anyone have an idea what's going wrong here?

Thanks.
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Old 13th June 2008, 08:15   #5067  |  Link
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@ earl

1. Probably wine. Wait until madshi shows up to be sure.
2. Read here.
3. A few posts above is your answer... eac3to can delay all audio tracks. Only exception is truehd demuxing (the delay value is written to the filename then). You don't to do anything in mkvtoolnix.

@ odin24

Post the eac3to log file. Probably surcode didn't start encoding (the processing time is too short).

@ bigdog660

It doesn't have to do anything with the codecs installed (-test) - these are for decoding/encoding, not reading the source files. Perhaps it is caused from bad ripped discs. Did you got all these errors in one day? Can you find a disc that works to ensure that it's not your system's problem? Can you send a sample from one of those movies to test it?

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Old 13th June 2008, 08:45   #5068  |  Link
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Hey folks, is BDEdit (or similar manual approach), and then entering each .m2ts filename on the command line, still the only way to figure out and then select which files to include for a branching disc?

Or is there an automatic way to select which .m2ts files to include in my "eac3to 00001.m2ts+00002.evo movie.mkv" command (e.g. if I could just specify a playlist file that would be pretty cool!)

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Old 13th June 2008, 11:06   #5069  |  Link
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eac3to can read playlist files and find the correct order automatically. Just run eac3to and set as input the root folder of your blu-ray disc. Then select the appropriate title { 1) or 2) or 3) or... } and add it to the previous command line.

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Old 13th June 2008, 12:29   #5070  |  Link
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sorry for the n00b question, but in what circumstances vc1conv must be used ?
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Old 13th June 2008, 12:55   #5071  |  Link
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sorry for the n00b question, but in what circumstances vc1conv must be used ?
Preparing video to make BluRay, or for creating WMV files for playback on XBox 360.

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Old 13th June 2008, 13:21   #5072  |  Link
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ok, so my "normal" usage for eac3to will be Blu-ray / HD-DVD to mkv, in this case I won't need it.

thanks, Nik
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Old 13th June 2008, 15:50   #5073  |  Link
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And also the pulldown removal in eac3to is for the same purpose, but as madshi have said latest vc1conv does a better job. That's why he had removed that functionality from eac3to (he put it back by request).
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Old 13th June 2008, 16:05   #5074  |  Link
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eac3to can read playlist files and find the correct order automatically. Just run eac3to and set as input the root folder of your blu-ray disc. Then select the appropriate title { 1) or 2) or 3) or... } and add it to the previous command line.
Can you type in an example command line to do that, I tried that the other day and didn't have any luck. I'll try it out this afternoon when I get home. I like tsmuxer, but eac3to has seemed to always give me better results.

One other question, will eac3to demux m2ts files and produce a raw 264 file?
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Old 13th June 2008, 16:26   #5075  |  Link
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Can you type in an example command line to do that, I tried that the other day and didn't have any luck. I'll try it out this afternoon when I get home. I like tsmuxer, but eac3to has seemed to always give me better results.
Yes, sure. First type this command to get the available titles:

Code:
eac3to "F:\Rambo IV 2008 Blu-ray 1080p H.264 DTS-HD MA 7.1"
1) 00041.mpls, 2:00:22
   [112+127+115+128+117+129+119+130+121+131+123+132+125].m2ts
   - h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
   - h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
   - DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
   - AC3, French, multi-channel, 48khz
   - AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

2) 00042.mpls, 2:00:22
   [112+127+115+128+117+129+119+130+121+131+123+132+125].m2ts
   - h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
   - h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
   - DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
   - AC3, French, multi-channel, 48khz
   - AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

3) 00040.mpls, 1:31:32
   [112+114+115+116+117+118+119+120+121+122+123+124+125].m2ts
   - h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
   - h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
   - DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
   - AC3, French, multi-channel, 48khz
   - AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

4) 00037.mpls, 1:10:56
   [87+88+89+90+91+92+93].m2ts
   - MPEG2, 1080i30 /1.001 (16:9)
   - AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

5) 00056.mpls, 00125.m2ts, 0:25:16
   - h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
   - h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
   - DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
   - AC3, French, multi-channel, 48khz
   - AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

6) 00046.mpls, 00115.m2ts, 0:22:32
   - h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
   - h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
   - DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
   - AC3, French, multi-channel, 48khz
   - AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

7) 00011.mpls, 00087.m2ts, 0:19:45
   - MPEG2, 1080i30 /1.001 (16:9)
   - AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
Then add the title you want to the previous command:

Code:
eac3to "F:\Rambo IV 2008 Blu-ray 1080p H.264 DTS-HD MA 7.1" 1)
M2TS, 2 video tracks, 3 audio tracks, 2:00:22
1: Chapters, 17 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (20:11)
4: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
5: AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Last step is to select the streams inside the title you wanna process:

Code:
eac3to "F:\Rambo IV 2008 Blu-ray 1080p H.264 DTS-HD MA 7.1" 1) 1: c:\rambo\rambo.chapters.txt 2: c:\rambo\rambo.mkv 4: c:\rambo\rambo.flac 4: c:\rambo\rambo.dts -core 5: c:\rambo\rambo.comm.ac3
M2TS, 2 video tracks, 3 audio tracks, 2:00:22
1: Chapters, 17 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (20:11)
4: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
5: AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Creating file "c:\rambo\rambo.chapters.txt"...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a05] Extracting audio track number 5...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Extracting DTS core...
[a04] Decoding with DirectShow (Sonic Audio Decoder)...
[a05] Removing dialog normalization...
[a04] DirectShow reports 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
[a04] Encoding FLAC...
[a04] Creating file "c:\rambo\rambo.flac"...
[a04] Creating file "c:\rambo\rambo.dts"...
[a05] Creating file "c:\rambo\rambo.comm.ac3"...
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One other question, will eac3to demux m2ts files and produce a raw 264 file?
Yes, it can. Simply select the video stream and set .264 as output extension. Generally, it's not a good idea to demux video though, because it can lead to audio/video sync problems and other artifacts, but you can always try and see.

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Old 13th June 2008, 16:37   #5076  |  Link
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^^^Just use Eac3to+and+More+GUI -> select 'stream' folder as input -> done. Much easier.
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Old 13th June 2008, 16:40   #5077  |  Link
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I wouldn't say that the command line way is difficult... plus the first time i used the gui, I was lost.
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Old 13th June 2008, 16:51   #5078  |  Link
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eac3to "F:\Rambo IV 2008 Blu-ray 1080p H.264 DTS-HD MA 7.1"
Wow, that's the root directory, what I tried was just eac3to d: , which works great on HD-DVDs, I didn't see all the other stuff as a folder, I'll look a bit harder when I get off.

I'll probably try the gui, I was like nautilus7 when I tried the gui before, now that I've used eac3to some and am a little more familiar with it, the gui might be great, but I didn't have a clue about eac3to to start with and the gui was overwhelming.
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That's probably the root folder for a ripped disc. If you're running straight from your HD-DVD/BD drive then d:\ is fine.
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That's probably the root folder for a ripped disc. If you're running straight from your HD-DVD/BD drive then d:\ is fine.
It won't work for me, eac3to d: or eac3to d:\ always comes back with the message:
HD DVD disc structure not found. I can run eac3to directly on the main m2ts file in D:\BDMV\STREAMS, but that is all it works on the best I can tell, I've tried the mpls files and that doesn't work either.

Running 2.42, ouch, I would have sworn I had 2.46. Anyway, downloaded 2.46 and now all works as it should. Thanks for the replies, I would have suffered through until a newer version was released.
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