BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[SoniG]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

Just curious, but if I set DEINTERLACE=0 on a full backup to BD5/9, where the main movie is 29.97, 1080i, and is experiencing this jerky playback, but the extras have some 29.97, 1080i and some 23.976, 1080P, how will the 1080P files be treated?

They will be treated and outputed as progressive, no worry. Most of issues come from 480 footages (and VC-1 format I would say). But here you say you have jerky playback on a 1080i footage (in motions I suppose) with no option (or DEINTERLACE=1), is that right?

[Capsbackup]

Originally Posted by SoniG

They will be treated and outputed as progressive, no worry. Most of issues come from 480 footages (and VC-1 format I would say). But here you say you have jerky playback on a 1080i footage (in motions I suppose) with no option (or DEINTERLACE=1), is that right?

Default was set, and playback was jerky on camera panning scenes. ( I guess default DEINTERLACE=1 )
I made a movie only backup of this 1080i, 29.97fps, avc video that experiences these issues.
Since the entire original BD-25 disc has only 1:59:38 of video, I was considering a full backup test to BD5 to burn to DVD+RW with DEINTERLACE=0. Just trying to see if this corrects the problem on the main movie, and if the extras will be ok, I may redo to a BD9 for higher quality.

[f362580]

I dont't know if it is a bug or just expected result of x264 ABR setting but I get constant 1-1.5Gb undersize when doing BD-25 movie only encode.

Also I want to know what settings BD rebuilder uses when doing "Automatic Quality Settings": ABR + good / better / high quality? It seems relatively fast (0.5x on my OC e6300) compared to manually set "high quality (default) + 1pass ABR", is it normal?

[8ternity]

@jdobbs:

I have make some tries to try to find what happen.

i have install the bew x264.exe version to know if it's the version of x264 has the trouble, and not.

i have also try to change mkvmerge with the newer version to check out if its that the trouble and not.

i asked you that question previoulsy what happen with my issue because i want to know if you need something precise that i need to change or do, and if you need more log or softwares informations.

Thank You,

[SoniG]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

Default was set, and playback was jerky on camera panning scenes. ( I guess default DEINTERLACE=1 )
I made a movie only backup of this 1080i, 29.97fps, avc video that experiences these issues.
Since the entire original BD-25 disc has only 1:59:38 of video, I was considering a full backup test to BD5 to burn to DVD+RW with DEINTERLACE=0. Just trying to see if this corrects the problem on the main movie, and if the extras will be ok, I may redo to a BD9 for higher quality.

Oh yeah I forgot that with DEINTERLACE=1 (so with no option), interlaced sources are deinterlaced but encoded and outputed as interlaced, that's why you have jerky playback. I already reported this to jdobbs.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

Just curious, but if I set DEINTERLACE=0 on a full backup to BD5/9, where the main movie is 29.97, 1080i, and is experiencing this jerky playback, but the extras have some 29.97, 1080i and some 23.976, 1080P, how will the 1080P files be treated?

DEINTERLACE only applies to interlaced sources.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by k-c-ksum

has the encoding speed options changed. upgraded to latest version from .33.02. that version had a ultra slow HQ option that dosent appear in the latest version. Speed isnt an issue, i would rather an encode take 36 hours instead of 20 if it can squeeze an ounce more detail into the pic quality. Is this encode preset now hidden?

It has to be something else -- the latest version is actually a bit faster.

[tandi]

hi, got it working, but got new message while reencoding video

' Audio and/or PGS size too large, probable oversize, continue ?"

what should i do then ?

[8ternity]

Resolved.

[fabul]

Hi,Thank you for your good work,

I have the same question as k-c-ksum

Originally Posted by k-c-ksum

has the encoding speed options changed. upgraded to latest version from .33.02. that version had a ultra slow HQ option that dosent appear in the latest version. Speed isnt an issue, i would rather an encode take 36 hours instead of 20 if it can squeeze an ounce more detail into the pic quality. Is this encode preset now hidden?

I don't understand what you mean by "It has to be something else --"

I also noticed this in v.33.02 "Ultra high quality" and i like this option,it dissapears from the encoder options in some circumstances like when i change the BD custom size after choosing this option and i cannot find this option in v.33.04.

Sorry for my english,

[Zot]

Originally Posted by fabul

Hi,Thank you for your good work,

I have the same question as k-c-ksum


....I also noticed this in v.33.02 "Ultra high quality" and i like this option,it dissapears from the encoder options in some circumstances like when i change the BD custom size after choosing this option and i cannot find this option in v.33.04.

Sorry for my english,

From what I understand, that option was 'accidently' enabled in 33.02. You can edit the config file and set encode_quality=4 to achieve the same thing. I just did "Mask of Zorro" from BD50 to BD25 at setting of 4 - looks like the original. However, I've taken BD25's to DVD5 at encode_quality=3 (Highest), and still can't tell the difference. So - not sure how much you will actually see for the extra 24 hours of encoding or so. (BTW - I've shown people the original BD and the DVD5 output from BD Rebuilder - hard pressed to see any difference on a 110" screen!)


Zot

[k-c-ksum]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

It has to be something else -- the latest version is actually a bit faster.

there is no ultra slow option in .33.04 though. Default high quality and very slow, were as .33.02 had default, very slow and extremly slow. Or is the new very slow option in the latest build using a similar profile as the Extremely Slow from .33.02?


also while encoding i left resize and noise activated by mistake as i was watching some SD TV upscaled yesterday. Does BDRB over ride those settings or will the current project also have the resize and noise settings encoded into the video?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by k-c-ksum

there is no ultra slow option in .33.04 though. Default high quality and very slow, were as .33.02 had default, very slow and extremly slow. Or is the new very slow option in the latest build using a similar profile as the Extremely Slow from .33.02?


also while encoding i left resize and noise activated by mistake as i was watching some SD TV upscaled yesterday. Does BDRB over ride those settings or will the current project also have the resize and noise settings encoded into the video?

Sorry, I misread your post.

My opinion is that there is never an instance when that level of encoding is needed and that's why it doesn't show on the menu. That option has been there for almost a year now -- but because I think it wastes time, it was never meant to be a standard choice that is easily set. But you can still select it by adding the following line to your INI file:

ENCODE_QUALITY=4

"Automatic" has to be turned off before you modify the INI. Note, also, that if you change the quality level from the menu, it will overwrite what you manually set in the INI file.

What's the "noise" setting?

[jdobbs]

@8ternity

That's confusing, because I did "The Blide Side" with FFDSHOW r3326 and had no issues at all. Try reinstalling 3326 and see if it still causes issues. It's possible that all it needed was to be reinstalled for some reason.

[tandi]

hi jdobbs
i've tried 3 titles

-first title - after all process complete & burn with imgburn, test in bluray player and bluray rom , it worked

-second title - while reencoding video, got this message
' Audio and/or PGS size too large, probable oversize, continue ?"
i press yes to continue , after complete the result was 11 gb ( i was set it to BD-9)

-third title - after all complete , burn it, i test it in bluray player it can't play it, and in bluray rom got this message while try play it with powerDVD ' a disc with unsupported format '

any suggestion for these issue ?

[raul124]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

It has to be something else -- the latest version is actually a bit faster.

Yes it is a faster version, take a look @Armored (movie only) it only literally took just under 3 hours. The picture quality excellent to the original.[22:16:04] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: ARMORED
- Input BD size: 20.33 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:27:53.268]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
[22:16:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:16:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [22:20:29] Reencoding: VID_00011 (1 of 1)
- [22:20:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 126,432 frames
- Bitrate: 10,961 Kbs
- [22:20:29] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:58:20] Video Encode complete
- [23:58:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:01:28] Multiplexing M2TS
[00:05:44]PHASE ONE complete
[00:05:44]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:05:44] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[00:10:19] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:10:20] BURNING BD structure to disc
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[01:09:49]JOB: ARMORED finished.

[k-c-ksum]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Sorry, I misread your post.

My opinion is that there is never an instance when that level of encoding is needed and that's why it doesn't show on the menu. That option has been there for almost a year now -- but because I think it wastes time, it was never meant to be a standard choice that is easily set. But you can still select it by adding the following line to your INI file:

ENCODE_QUALITY=4

"Automatic" has to be turned off before you modify the INI. Note, also, that if you change the quality level from the menu, it will overwrite what you manually set in the INI file.

What's the "noise" setting?

ffdshows noise filter. I use ffdshow to scale SD TV in realtime for live watching but forgot to switch the filter off when i had finished.


thanks for the encode_quality option. I only use that on stuff that is over two and a half hours or were the source is poor. Whats an extra 12 hours ontop of an encode

[8ternity]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

@8ternity

That's confusing, because I did "The Blide Side" with FFDSHOW r3326 and had no issues at all. Try reinstalling 3326 and see if it still causes issues. It's possible that all it needed was to be reinstalled for some reason.

True. I reinstall the ffdshow 3326 and it has worked.

[kanerulz69]

jdobbs if im playing on a 65in tv do you think its best using automatic quality settings or uncheck so it does a 2-pass? cause putting in the original blu ray disc and putting in my backup copy (doing automatic quality) it looks a lil different?
ps by the way im doing bd-25 output option

[DK]

Even on 25GB media I have more than once come across poor output quality when not using high or even highest quality!
Titles were Fireball (the underwater scenes were real crap with fast options!) or today the BBC documentary "Galapagos", where I tried "automatic quality" and went for high quality 1 pass abr later on as the automatic setting results were too poor even though the input was only~24.80gb down to 22.66gb.

I rather have some more time spent on the encoding than watching for the next blocky scene instead of enjoying HD worthy material.


BTW is there a thread for feature requests?

The following came to my mind:
- in batch mode it is not possible to delete an entry (I wanted to do so but had to stop the current process altogether)
- could more infos of a current conversion added to the corresponding log file like the quality setting used and the last command txt files content or the infos which inspect provides as I sometimes like to take a look which version was used for the encoding of XYZ
- recently I'd wished I was able to have one out of two audiostreams converted down to 448/640 but keep the other as is for a 25gb conversion