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28th October 2012, 12:48 | #1 | Link | |||
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Drawbacks of changing merit settings (ffdshow - LAVFilters)
I come from the point that some renown users advice to NEVER EVER touch the merit settings, but without giving founded reasons (I'm even being recommended to uninstall ffdshow over changing merits link1, link2), and that is what I would like to know.
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28th October 2012, 15:16 | #2 | Link |
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The average Joe won't ever touch any of the features you are talking about, and thus the general advice for users is "don't touch merits".
Of course, if you know what you do, there shouldn't be any real issue to changing merits the way you like. I really don't see what's all the discussion is about... |
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Yes I also don't know what was all the fuss about, probably because I was considered "an average Joe"? :S
I don't know what's so critical about merits, you raise one over another to give it priority. I had been considering to do this because external filters in MPC-HC is sometimes bugged, when playing strange codec media, etc the external filters list sometimes gets emptied. If I had to know anything else, please comment! This is the place. |
28th October 2012, 16:46 | #4 | Link |
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You first should start to read better. I never said it is forbidden to use the external filter settings. I just said there are better ways to do the configuration. Nobody said that you MUST uninstall ffdshow. It just was suggested that do so if you were not using it. We can't read your mind that you were also using it for processing and encoding and not just for decoding. You can do whatever works for you.
But now I am going to do a cool mind-reading trick. Are you storing settings to INI? I think you do. Turn that off, and your external filter settings should not disappear anymore. Plus MPC-HC will load/close faster too.
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Just my two cents but changing filter merits via the "External Filters" settings is what the average Joe would do if they "wanted some filter to beat out another filter". That's exactly the thought process. If you want to change filter merits and you want to do it the right way then change them directly in the registry. There are tools that parse the registry settings and make it much easier to create/read/update these settings.
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28th October 2012, 17:18 | #6 | Link |
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Or you could just use the format settings in ffdshow and LAV Filters...
Then you can prefer ffdshow for format X and lav for format Y. Much more flexible.
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@clsid: Please don't assume I read wrong, maybe it's me who should encourage to read better. I never said you said the external settings to be forbidden. I was talking about merit settings, and in relation on CoRoNe's post.
The thing is I never asked whether FFDShow was worth or not, my questions always were; "how can I make LAVFilters work normally (as my default splitter-decoder) while having ffdshow installed as well?" And answers all were in the tone of, don't touch merits, don't touch external filters, uninstall ffdshow... And no, I don't store settings in ini, I never do. (I guess this is a proof of what Superb meant on being considered an average Joe...) : P @dansrfe: No, I never considered changing merits inside MPC-HC, if ever I'd use graphstudio or the more recent recommendation DirectShowFilterManager. All I ever did inside MPC was to block or prefer filters. |
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Imagine this scenario; I want to filter a xvid encoded video, I'd need to open LAV-Video, uncheck xvid, open ffdshow video, check xvid, watch the video, and repeat the process inversely. With merits, it's as easier as to have a .reg ready to be double clicked, when done, open (in notepad) the .reg, comment the line, uncomment the reverse reg line, save, and double click. Now if you have another reason to don't use this method (or rather use your format settings method over the merit's) then I could understand. |
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28th October 2012, 17:53 | #9 | Link |
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You are already picturing things more complex then they really are.
If you want to use LAV for Xvid, then it is enough to disable it in ffdshow. Want to use ffdshow again, then just re-enable it. No need to touch LAV settings at all. And once things are set up like you like, why is there any need to change it frequently? And you can also do this with a .reg, since the settings are stored in the Registry. And instead of editing a single .reg, use two.
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yes, that's true. Kind of having everything disabled, and only enable what I will use (since it will override LAV anyways).
It just was fishy that everything was suggested except merits modifications. I can use one or two files, normally I use just one, I comment and uncomment with ctrl+q, do ctrl+s and I'm done. For me it's easier this way because as you said I'm not going to change it much, but for me makes more sense to change priority than enable "bypass" through ffdshow. |
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