Welcome to Doom9's Forum, THE in-place to be for everyone interested in DVD conversion.

Before you start posting please read the forum rules. By posting to this forum you agree to abide by the rules.

 

Go Back   Doom9's Forum > (HD) DVD, Blu-ray & (S)VCD > DVD & BD Rebuilder

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11th January 2014, 17:20   #18761  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n View Post
Ah well, I suppose I can fire up that dual boot on the rig one you manage to implement full disc 3d backup. Got w7 installed, Just never use it unless I have to.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 met Tapatalk
Not sure what might be the issue with the upgrade. From my own experience, Win7 is much better (a lot more stable) than Vista.

I don't have Vista installed on any of my systems right now, so I can't test it. What version number shows when BD-RB runs under Vista (I can't remember)?
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th January 2014, 18:31   #18762  |  Link
Ch3vr0n
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,368
well there won't be issues with windows itself, but their may be issues with the custom (accounting) software. For pdf functionality, it relies on a custom built (by them) of a pdf printer (non-adobe) which may stop working on the upgrade, same for in-app invoice mailing capabilities.

Inspect shows: windows version 6.0 [6002] for vista
Ch3vr0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th January 2014, 18:48   #18763  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n View Post
well there won't be issues with windows itself, but their may be issues with the custom (accounting) software. For pdf functionality, it relies on a custom built (by them) of a pdf printer (non-adobe) which may stop working on the upgrade, same for in-app invoice mailing capabilities.

Inspect shows: windows version 6.0 [6002] for vista
If you want I can create a test version for you that will accept 6.0 for testing (now it looks for 6.1) -- and you can test it to see if it works.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th January 2014, 18:56   #18764  |  Link
Ch3vr0n
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,368
that would be AWESOME, it would both help me and perhaps even you as you'd know if vista (ultimate x64 in my case) would work or not. Got a couple 3D discs i can test it on
Ch3vr0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th January 2014, 19:05   #18765  |  Link
rendez2k
Registered User
 
rendez2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 625
Quick question with the new 3D mode - is there anywhere that states its a 3D disc before conversion? For instance, should I be seeing a '3D Movie Only' option in the menu?
rendez2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th January 2014, 20:07   #18766  |  Link
Sharc
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdobbs View Post
I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new version of BD-RB (v0.46.03). Changes for this release:
Code:
- Added fully BD compliant 3D support for 
  movie-only backups. SBS and O/U 3D output 
  is still supported via selection of the
  "Enable SBS 3D Movie-Only output" option
  in the setup menu and the "TYPE_OF_3D"
  hidden option output, but is not the pre-
  ferred 3D method. NOTE: This feature
  requires Windows 7 or higher, and will be
  disabled on lower O/S versions.
- Created a new hidden option, OUTPUT_3D_ISO.
  By default movie-only backups are written
  directly to an ISO image for burning rather
  than a folder.  Setting this option to "0"
  will create a folder instead. Note: Using
  the folder option will result in degraded
  output due to the structure of 3D discs.
- Added a hidden option "MENU_FORCE_QUICK=1"
  that will create a quick menu even when
  only one playlist is selected to be kept.
  This applies only to Quick-Play backups,
  not to imports.
- Updated code to fully support DTS Express
  secondary streams without the need for 
  special processing.
- Fixed an issue in which the Quick-Plan and
  import MENU's IGS M2TS file could be 
  incorrectly timed -- which could cause 
  problems on some players.
- Corrected an error in which the SupTitle
  checkbox was not being properly initiated
  when the SETUP dialog form is loaded.
- Corrected an error in which some PGCs could
  be incorrectly ignored during DVD imports.
- Added a new hidden option, ALTPATH, that is
  read at program start.  This creates a path
  to a customized ALTERNATE.TXT file that can
  be created by a user. Note that the option
  must be placed in the "[Paths]" area of the
  config/INI file. See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more 
  details.
- Corrected an issue in which menu backgrounds
  created for IMPORT/Quick-Play could have 
  GOP lengths that are too long when a target
  size of BD-5 or BD-9 has been selected.
- Fixed an error in backup of 3D sources to
  SBS or O/U format that could result in sizes
  that are significantly smaller than selected 
  targets.
- Corrected an error in which multipart VC-1
  interlaced sources or secondary video in 
  movie-only mode could cause BD-RB to stop 
  with "Error in attempt to MKVMERGE" during 
  A/V extraction.
- Corrected an error in which the main feature
  could (under odd circumstances) be ignored
  and not appear in the BD IMPORT list.
- Fixed a problem in which collecting/using
  a menu background that used VC-1 was not
  working during BD IMPORT.
- Added FRIMDecode and FRIMEncode (v1.19) to
  BD-RB's included set of tools.
- Updated the included version of TSMUXER to 
  a newer release (v2.6.11).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.
Note that there have been significant modifications to this release in order to implement 3D movie-only processing and to reorganize the process flow for the future possibility of full 3D backups -- please report any newly found issues in this thread. Another example of why the software is in a seemingly never-ending "beta" state. Next up -- enabling the software to run without a requirement for AVISYNTH, HAALI, and FFDSHOW.
Wow!!! Busy weekend for testing in sight!
Thanks a lot for the new version.
Sharc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th January 2014, 20:41   #18767  |  Link
Sharc
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by rendez2k View Post
Quick question with the new 3D mode - is there anywhere that states its a 3D disc before conversion? For instance, should I be seeing a '3D Movie Only' option in the menu?
Good question.
Is 3D enabled "silently"? The menu structure and Settings look like before for 2D. I may probably be missing something ..... ?

Edit:
I just found that 3D encoding gets automatically enabled for "movie only" if the source is 3D. No special settings required.
Now the question remains what to do it if I want the Movie Only backup in 2D?

Last edited by Sharc; 11th January 2014 at 21:08.
Sharc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th January 2014, 21:03   #18768  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,973
Quote:
Originally Posted by rendez2k View Post
Quick question with the new 3D mode - is there anywhere that states its a 3D disc before conversion? For instance, should I be seeing a '3D Movie Only' option in the menu?
You'll see "MVC 3D Output Mode enabled" and "Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode" in the log.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th January 2014, 21:22   #18769  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n View Post
that would be AWESOME, it would both help me and perhaps even you as you'd know if vista (ultimate x64 in my case) would work or not. Got a couple 3D discs i can test it on
Check your PM.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 04:26   #18770  |  Link
Monty11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 20
BD-RB fails to process a 704x464 MKV file

When BD-RB v0.45.05 processes a 704x464 pixel MKV file I have, it imports the file OK, but when I press Backup the process fails with the message "Haali Media Splitter. Error: can't open file: The media type of this file is not recognized." The file was produced by VidCoder (= Handbrake). Inspect.exe gives OK for all tests.

Here are the MKV file details: Width : 704 pixels Height : 464 pixels Display aspect ratio : 4:3 Original display aspect ratio : 4:3 Frame rate : 29.970 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame)

[jdobbs kindly commented on this problem in the tsMuxeR GUI thread, but moved the discussion (by mistake, I think) to the DVD Rebuilder thread rather than the BD-RB thread.]
Monty11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 11:19   #18771  |  Link
Sharc
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdobbs View Post
...Note that there have been significant modifications to this release in order to implement 3D movie-only processing and to reorganize the process flow for the future possibility of full 3D backups -- please report any newly found issues in this thread. Another example of why the software is in a seemingly never-ending "beta" state. Next up -- enabling the software to run without a requirement for AVISYNTH, HAALI, and FFDSHOW.
I want to report back that a 3-D backup on BD-9 finished successfully without issues. Quality is quite good for the 90 minutes movie.
It is perhaps a bit irritating that the log lists the irrelevant settings for 2-D as well, like
- RESIZE 1920 to 1440 enabled
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
These have no effect though; pure cosmetics.

Last edited by Sharc; 12th January 2014 at 11:24.
Sharc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 12:33   #18772  |  Link
Sharc
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdobbs View Post
They are ignored when BD-RB gets an error trying to decode them. I'm not familiar with that disc. Is there any way you can send me a short sample where the subtitle is ignored?

BD-RB doesn't use TSMUXER to demux DVDs, it does it itself.
These subs are still ignored by the latest version 0.46.03.
I sent you a short sample; anything special with the format? Not terribly important as I had this problem only with this particular disc so far.
Sharc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 12:34   #18773  |  Link
brunchto
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 39
Hi,

thanks for the last BDRB version !!!
I 've tried to make a BR3D movie only backup. i wish to do this without reencoding, but i cannot find how.
for BR2D, if final size is lower than destination, then there is no reencode. but for 3D, there is always reencoding of the video part.

Is there a way to do 3DBR without reencoding?
brunchto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 12:41   #18774  |  Link
Sharc
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by brunchto View Post
Hi,

thanks for the last BDRB version !!!
I 've tried to make a BR3D movie only backup. i wish to do this without reencoding, but i cannot find how.
for BR2D, if final size is lower than destination, then there is no reencode. but for 3D, there is always reencoding of the video part.

Is there a way to do 3DBR without reencoding?
Did you try with
FORCE_NOENCODE=1
in the BDREBUILDER.ini ?
(see hiddenopts.txt)
Sharc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 14:14   #18775  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty11 View Post
When BD-RB v0.45.05 processes a 704x464 pixel MKV file I have, it imports the file OK, but when I press Backup the process fails with the message "Haali Media Splitter. Error: can't open file: The media type of this file is not recognized." The file was produced by VidCoder (= Handbrake). Inspect.exe gives OK for all tests.

Here are the MKV file details: Width : 704 pixels Height : 464 pixels Display aspect ratio : 4:3 Original display aspect ratio : 4:3 Frame rate : 29.970 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame)

[jdobbs kindly commented on this problem in the tsMuxeR GUI thread, but moved the discussion (by mistake, I think) to the DVD Rebuilder thread rather than the BD-RB thread.]
I moved it to a thread of its own.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 14:15   #18776  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharc View Post
I want to report back that a 3-D backup on BD-9 finished successfully without issues. Quality is quite good for the 90 minutes movie.
It is perhaps a bit irritating that the log lists the irrelevant settings for 2-D as well, like
- RESIZE 1920 to 1440 enabled
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
These have no effect though; pure cosmetics.
I'll have to add code to suppress those messages. I'd made a note to do that but never got around to it.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 14:16   #18777  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharc View Post
These subs are still ignored by the latest version 0.46.03.
I sent you a short sample; anything special with the format? Not terribly important as I had this problem only with this particular disc so far.
Sorry, I haven't worked on it yet.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 14:17   #18778  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,973
Quote:
Originally Posted by brunchto View Post
Hi,

thanks for the last BDRB version !!!
I 've tried to make a BR3D movie only backup. i wish to do this without reencoding, but i cannot find how.
for BR2D, if final size is lower than destination, then there is no reencode. but for 3D, there is always reencoding of the video part.

Is there a way to do 3DBR without reencoding?
Currently it doesn't do the "keep original" check. It's related to the code I've added for future full 3D backup. I'll have to fix that.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 16:15   #18779  |  Link
minhjirachi
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 110
Can I use this soft to fix bug on 3D Blu-ray Disc? Because I have a problem with pop-up menu. So that if I keep the Pop-Up menu, it can play in 3D. But if I remove the Pop-Up menu in the playlist, I can play 3D clip normally. I think it's a problem when I using tsmuxer to remux the main clip and when I re-add the old Pop-up menu in to that playlist, it does not match the ID anymore. So does your software can correct that problem?

So I want to know clearly before going to use your software.

Thank you so much.
minhjirachi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2014, 18:20   #18780  |  Link
jdobbs
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,973
Quote:
Originally Posted by minhjirachi View Post
Can I use this soft to fix bug on 3D Blu-ray Disc? Because I have a problem with pop-up menu. So that if I keep the Pop-Up menu, it can play in 3D. But if I remove the Pop-Up menu in the playlist, I can play 3D clip normally. I think it's a problem when I using tsmuxer to remux the main clip and when I re-add the old Pop-up menu in to that playlist, it does not match the ID anymore. So does your software can correct that problem?

So I want to know clearly before going to use your software.

Thank you so much.
I'm not positive I understand what you're saying. But if it failed when adding after-the-fact with TSMUXER, it's likely going to have the same result when you do the it with BD-RB.

How are you re-adding the pop-up, with BDEDIT? 3D gets tricky because there is additional stream information kept in MPLS and CLPI extensions.
__________________
Help with development of new apps: Donations.
Website: www.jdobbs.net

Last edited by jdobbs; 12th January 2014 at 18:23.
jdobbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:26.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.