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Old 3rd December 2020, 14:53   #60901  |  Link
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I have a GTX 1080 in another PC. Is it worth to use this card or should I wait to replace the RC 480 with a GTX 3060 ti in the HTPC?
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Old 3rd December 2020, 21:28   #60902  |  Link
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All we know is Madshi currently only has the time for Nvidia.

Nvidia is the only option going forward. But don't buy a top tier card Today, it won't really do anything.

1060 6gb for ultrabudget, next up is 1080Ti, Skip the 2xxx series all together, if you play vidya, 3080.

And this might be an unpopular opinion, but NGU is NOT Madvr's most useful feature, even though it consumes the most Processing power..
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Old 3rd December 2020, 22:50   #60903  |  Link
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Let me guess what that is: 3dlut?!
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Old 4th December 2020, 01:01   #60904  |  Link
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What about the GTX 1080 (not Ti)? Will that be a step up? I am asking, because I don't want to disassemble my PCs whereas it may be better to wait for a GTX 3060 Ti.
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Old 4th December 2020, 01:38   #60905  |  Link
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1080 is great, a good step up. 3060ti would be even better and nice for AV1 decoding. I recommend moving the 1080 across it has enough chops for most of the high quality options.
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Old 4th December 2020, 16:31   #60906  |  Link
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Helo guys.
I have missed this video hobby for some years and seems I missed tons of things like HDR.
So recently I did a new righ since I'm running on Intel from 2003 I said to switch to an AMD rig.
This are my specs:
Amd Ryzen 7 1700x 3400
Amd Radeon RX 580 8GB
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Dell S2721QS HDR

So my problem is that I can't play any 4k Video in HDR with MadVR or any DDS filter. I tried almost every solution I found on this forum and nothing.
The thing is, if Irun via VLC or PotPlayer ( default ) which uses ffmpeg if I'm correct, HDR is working. But MadVR doesn't even want to enter on exclusive mode. Just windowed fullscreen.Normally I would use PotPlayer and live like this but I saw what MadVR can do and I really want to continue my old setup MPC-HC , LAV, MADVR.
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Old 4th December 2020, 17:14   #60907  |  Link
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4K and HDR should work. I use the RX 480 with MPC BE + madvr + lav filter. All set to RGB 10 bit or higher. It’s basically a passthrough.
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Old 4th December 2020, 17:29   #60908  |  Link
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Let me guess what that is: 3dlut?!
In order of most awesome:

#1 3DLut
#2 HDR Tonemapping
#3 3Dlut
#4 3Dlut
#5 3Dlut
#6 3Dlut
#7 3Dlut
#8 3Dlut
#9 3Dlut
#10 Ngu
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What about the GTX 1080 (not Ti)? Will that be a step up? I am asking, because I don't want to disassemble my PCs whereas it may be better to wait for a GTX 3060 Ti.
Anything below the 3080 doesn't really have enough ray-tracing performance for current / later games.

That's the gaming aspect.

If Madvr is the deciding factor, we simply do not know what's coming or if anything is coming at all, it's impossible to base purchase decision on it.
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Old 4th December 2020, 17:37   #60910  |  Link
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Dell S2721QS HDR
That's an IPS monitor. Don't watch movies on an IPS monitor, it's a waste of time, and disrespectful to Cinematographers.

it has 1200:1 contrast, at its peak brightness, 380nits, the black point is 0.32 nit. For even remotely acceptable shadow detail, you need somewhere around 0.05nit blackpoint.

HDR movies basically look like giant grey blobs on IPS.
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Old 4th December 2020, 17:53   #60911  |  Link
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It's the cinema projector experience at home! Just need to get very close to the screen!
More seriously, if that's the only display you have it's still better than not watching movies at all.

@laz1989 you need to add more information: OS version, driver version, settings used in madVR (bit depth, presentation settings, etc.), does it work if you switch HDR manually in Windows beforehand?
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Old 4th December 2020, 18:09   #60912  |  Link
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It's the cinema projector experience at home! Just need to get very close to the screen!
More seriously, if that's the only display you have it's still better than not watching movies at all.

@laz1989 you need to add more information: OS version, driver version, settings used in madVR (bit depth, presentation settings, etc.), does it work if you switch HDR manually in Windows beforehand?
Agree it's better than nothing. Arguably still better than projectors which have at best 300-500:1 Ansi in professional outlets.

The other option is calibrate IPS to 60nit peak, watch HDR movies in the closet.
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4K and HDR should work. I use the RX 480 with MPC BE + madvr + lav filter. All set to RGB 10 bit or higher. It’s basically a passthrough.
It works on Netflix, it works on ffmpeg but not on DirectShow.
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Post a screenshot of madVR's OSD during playback (Ctrl+J) on an external image hosting site.
Are you using the latest version of LAV Filter?
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Post a screenshot of madVR's OSD during playback (Ctrl+J) on an external image hosting site.
Are you using the latest version of LAV Filter?
https://i.postimg.cc/ZRPYPtSC/1.png

Yes, I installed windows a few days ago when I did the rig.
I tried also with D3D11 at begin on Lav Filter after that I switched to DCXA with same result.
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Anything below the 3080 doesn't really have enough ray-tracing performance for current / later games.

That's the gaming aspect.

If Madvr is the deciding factor, we simply do not know what's coming or if anything is coming at all, it's impossible to base purchase decision on it.
Very true. I am not interested in ray-tracing but I care about
parallel computing and shaders for madvr. To get more out of madvr. One member once wrote that madvr is deprecated. I think he is right. I have looked at the Envy proposition and I think that madvr is history. Litofsky is not interested in us, in this segment, and he will not allow any development in madvr. Sure we should ask him to be sure. I feel sad and I am not alone here.

Anyway, madvr is still doing a great job.
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how old is the last madVR beta a week?
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Old 4th December 2020, 22:13   #60918  |  Link
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how old is the last madVR beta a week?
Yes and there is another one coming soon.
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Yes and there is another one coming soon.
When was the last non-beta release?
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