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Old 28th August 2019, 06:27   #57241  |  Link
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flat colors

I'm having a weird issue with flat colors, and wondering if someone can help. I'm using Asmodian max settings, a tuned 1080TI, a Samsung chg90. The colors seem noticeably flatter than VLC, the preview pane, and even an iphone. Here's the same clip in vlc, the windows preview pane, and mpc. And OSD
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Old 28th August 2019, 07:26   #57242  |  Link
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Does anyone know how to show chapter marks using mpc-be?
Options->Player->Interface->Use chapters marker.
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Old 28th August 2019, 12:20   #57243  |  Link
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Options->Player->Interface->Use chapters marker.
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Old 28th August 2019, 16:22   #57244  |  Link
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Old 28th August 2019, 17:43   #57245  |  Link
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Ewwww I've zero desire to integer scale. I'm sure that's a neat trick for ancient games or whatever but for video we have far more useful scaling in madvr.
I've not seen any comparisons, but I can assume that the Integer scale sucks compared to NNEDI3/NGU AA.
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Old 28th August 2019, 18:01   #57246  |  Link
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it's by far the best scaler for the type of content it is added for.

if you want to try it madVR can do for like ever.

it's currently removed from the option but you can still find an option to use it with a hot key. it's "nearest neighbor".
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ok, 2 things. Does anyone know how to show chapter marks using mpc-be? The next thing is, has anyone tried interger scaling on an Nvidia graphics card?
That is the same as "Nearest Neighbor" in madVR. The one that says "not recommended. It really is a very bad scaler for anything but pixel art.

Edit: It is hidden for image upscaling as huhn mentioned, but you can still see it under chroma upscaling or downscaling.
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Old 28th August 2019, 18:30   #57248  |  Link
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What a pity that madVR can't be used with old games!
Diablo 1 doubling Nearest Neigthbor vs Bilinear vs NGU AA High vs NGU Sharp High (Source).
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Old 28th August 2019, 21:39   #57249  |  Link
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An Envy might have more uses than simply video playback. A customizable hardware scaler for putting NGU AA (or Sharp, if you prefer) between a NES and the TV would be pretty cool.

Edit: of course, it will probably add at least one frame of input lag so it may not be a great option.
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Old 28th August 2019, 23:06   #57250  |  Link
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Plus several grand to upscale a video game that didn't come anywhere near that in cost.....seems, I don't know.
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Old 28th August 2019, 23:33   #57251  |  Link
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There are more suitable hardware upscalers for this scenario out in the wild, optimized for gaming. Keep NGU for video IMO.
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Old 29th August 2019, 01:28   #57252  |  Link
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even my TV can do that.
and if you missed it a PC too.
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Plus several grand to upscale a video game that didn't come anywhere near that in cost.....seems, I don't know.
Several grand? Is that what the Envy is expected to cost? It would surprise me, considering GPU's prices.

Also... it's not as if movies are more expensive than videogames. Quite the opposite is true and has been for a very long time.
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You should check out the Envy thread on AVS Forum. They've discussed the *POTENTIAL* price range for Envy "quite a bit".

My comment was very much sarcastic on cost. However, presumably you have a lot more videos than games, potentially. Buying the Envy to upscale a few old video games probably doesn't make a whole lot of sense especially given it's not really designed around that use case. It iS, however, designed around video from many different sources. I'm not saying you COULDN'T use the Envy for this, but, it's probably a bit overkill.
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i just throw input lag in the room so not sure why you would ever use something like that for gaming.
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That's true, too, I didn't even consider that factor. Yup, use the proper tools for the job.
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Does anyone already know if "Filmmaker Mode" (https://www.experienceuhd.com/filmmakermode) is something that could help us with madVR once the TVs support it? E.g. is it additional data in the video stream or "just" a new picture mode?
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Old 30th August 2019, 15:36   #57258  |  Link
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we already have something like that it's content type with can in theory at least be used with HDMI.

it's pretty much not used at all and a new version of this will take years to spread enough and the next problem we don't even know if it is possible to change that on the fly.

in theory i could be used in the future but for now it's just a marketing gag to boost sales we don't even know hard hard TV producer have to follow it to add it and what exactly it will do in the end.

and if you really really care you will calibrate your screen anyway which is far better then this new "feature" will ever be.
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I might have misunderstood it, but isn't that "Filmmaker Mode" meant to overwrite your settings/calibration? E.g. brightness, white point, ...
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sounds like it just like content type so what?
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