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Old 19th September 2016, 10:11   #24901  |  Link
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Why would you think setting BD-50 or FORCE_ENCODE would change what's in the streams list? That has no bearing at all.
to know if encode forcibly extras, but do not appear in the log, and negative, the extras were copied 1: 1


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Please post your INI file so I can take a look at it.
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VERSION=0.50.0.18



MIN_M2TS_SIZE=5

ENABLE_TEST=1
DEFAULT_LANG=spa

MULTIPROCESS=6
THREADS=12
TWEAK_X265=--pmode --pme --uhd-bd

IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=1
EXTENDED_GOP=1
NEW_CRF_PREDICTION=1

B_PYRAMID=1
ARCHIVE_ENABLE=1
ARCHIVE_CRF=13.7
ARCHIVE_QUALITY=3
ARCHIVE_LIMIT=0
ARCHIVE_265=1


ENCODER=0
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0

AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=3
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24315
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
ENABLE_BLANKING=0
SUPPRESS_FF_WARNING=1
TARGET_SIZE=24315
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=M:\

DGIndexNV=C:\Users\Desktop\BD_Rebuilder\dgdecnv2052\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Users\Desktop\BD_Rebuilder\dgdecnv2052\DGDecodeNV.dll
WORKING_PATH=Q:\REBUILDER10\

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Old 19th September 2016, 11:33   #24902  |  Link
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Unexpected Windows Install window

Every time I launch BD-Rebuilder it opens a Windows Installer window. I can just cancel out of it, but it is a bit annoying.
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Old 19th September 2016, 14:31   #24903  |  Link
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Every time I launch BD-Rebuilder it opens a Windows Installer window. I can just cancel out of it, but it is a bit annoying.
It certainly isn't BD-RB. It doesn't even us Windows Installer. Search the thread... I seem to recall someone else experiencing this at some point -- if I recall correctly it was caused by another program's installation.
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Old 19th September 2016, 21:39   #24904  |  Link
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Is BD Rebuilder supposed to keep subtitle depth settings for Blu-ray 3D? In my case I tried in Movie-Only mode.

I rebuilt a movie that according to tsMuxeR GUI has "3d-plane: 2" for the english subtitle track and "3d-plane: 0" for the german subtitle track.

If I load the rebuilt Blu-ray into tsMuxeR GUI both 3d-planes have 0 as their value.

In this thread I found some information about the 3d-planes in tsMuXeR.

I also found some posts here concerning subtitle depth but am not sure if it's supposed to be fully implemented now or not, or maybe just in Full Backup-mode, which I didn't try?
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Old 19th September 2016, 22:32   #24905  |  Link
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Every time I launch BD-Rebuilder it opens a Windows Installer window. I can just cancel out of it, but it is a bit annoying.
You may want to have a look into post #23809

In that case it was MS Office messing up MSCOMCTL.ocx.

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Old 21st September 2016, 20:05   #24906  |  Link
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TWEAK_X265=--pmode --pme --uhd-bd
Just out of curiosity why you have --uhd-bd, do you have Ultra HD player to play them?
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Old 22nd September 2016, 06:37   #24907  |  Link
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Sorry to ask about this again, but I remember everyone here was talking about how the newest version of x264_64 in BDRB was for some inexplicable reason slower and not utilizing the full CPU, right...?

And, I have been noticing that my encodes do seem to be taking longer (I always use LAVF) So, was the suggestion then to go back to an older version of BDRB and take the x264_64.exe out of one of the folders and replace the new version with it...? I can't remember...
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Old 22nd September 2016, 09:46   #24908  |  Link
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Sorry to ask about this again, but I remember everyone here was talking about how the newest version of x264_64 in BDRB was for some inexplicable reason slower and not utilizing the full CPU, right...?

And, I have been noticing that my encodes do seem to be taking longer (I always use LAVF) So, was the suggestion then to go back to an older version of BDRB and take the x264_64.exe out of one of the folders and replace the new version with it...? I can't remember...
Thank you Lathe! I was missing an answer too. I took an older X 264-64bit version from an earlier release and replaced it. Speed was about 120 fps in encoding again.
Full backup incl. burning is ~ 1 hour.
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Just out of curiosity why you have --uhd-bd, do you have Ultra HD player to play them?
no have uhd player, X265 in the manual puts it as experimental option, but I guess that is a default value that use the uhd a technical level.




http://x265.readthedocs.io/en/default/cli.html
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Thank you Lathe! I was missing an answer too. I took an older X 264-64bit version from an earlier release and replaced it. Speed was about 120 fps in encoding again.
Full backup incl. burning is ~ 1 hour.
what version of bd rebuilder used to replace?
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Old 22nd September 2016, 14:12   #24911  |  Link
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Sorry to ask about this again, but I remember everyone here was talking about how the newest version of x264_64 in BDRB was for some inexplicable reason slower and not utilizing the full CPU, right...?

And, I have been noticing that my encodes do seem to be taking longer (I always use LAVF) So, was the suggestion then to go back to an older version of BDRB and take the x264_64.exe out of one of the folders and replace the new version with it...? I can't remember...
Just remember that it only matters if you are using X264's internal LAVF for frame serving. If you are using DirectshowSource, DGDecNV, or FRIM it will not change anything.

I would be careful, as you don't want to get stuck using an old version of X264. Frankly I'm surprised that the X264 team hasn't gotten complaints about this and fixed it by now.
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Old 22nd September 2016, 14:21   #24912  |  Link
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Is BD Rebuilder supposed to keep subtitle depth settings for Blu-ray 3D? In my case I tried in Movie-Only mode.

I rebuilt a movie that according to tsMuxeR GUI has "3d-plane: 2" for the english subtitle track and "3d-plane: 0" for the german subtitle track.

If I load the rebuilt Blu-ray into tsMuxeR GUI both 3d-planes have 0 as their value.

In this thread I found some information about the 3d-planes in tsMuXeR.

I also found some posts here concerning subtitle depth but am not sure if it's supposed to be fully implemented now or not, or maybe just in Full Backup-mode, which I didn't try?
For me 3D subtitle depth is not kept as well. I wondered why already, but couldn't find an answer...

@jdobbs Should BD-Rebuilder Keep 3D subtitle depth??
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no have uhd player, X265 in the manual puts it as experimental option, but I guess that is a default value that use the uhd a technical level.




http://x265.readthedocs.io/en/default/cli.html
No it is not default, also putting it in command line decrease compression efficiency, if I were you I would take it out why artificially cap encoder ability.

In you case you want to know what --uhd-bd does
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Turn on repeat-headers
Turn off intra-refresh
keyframeMin is set to 1 by default it is 23
keyframeMax is set to frame rate of movie, if movie is 23.976 max keyframe would be 23.976 as well. By default it is 250 but in alternate option you set it auto which 10 times keyframe.
Max number of references frames is 6
Turn off temporal layer
Restrict your resolutions are 1920x1080 and 3840x2160
Transfer Characteristics, Colour primaries, Matrix coefficients to BT.709 and/or BT.2020
Source: Encoder source code.
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For me 3D subtitle depth is not kept as well. I wondered why already, but couldn't find an answer...

@jdobbs Should BD-Rebuilder Keep 3D subtitle depth??
There is depth to the subtitles -- but not the necessarily the same as the original. It's a matter of what can and can't be done with TSMUXER.
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There is depth to the subtitles -- but not the necessarily the same as the original. It's a matter of what can and can't be done with TSMUXER.
Okay, thanks, is there a way to force a specific offset value?? Eg. all subtitles with constant value of
D-Plane 2 in TSMuxer or something like that??
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Okay, thanks, is there a way to force a specific offset value?? Eg. all subtitles with constant value of
D-Plane 2 in TSMuxer or something like that??
Not now -- but I can look at it.
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For your information, if I use tsMuxeR GUI directly to create a Blu-ray ISO with only the audio and subtitle languages that I desire, i.e. german and english, the 3d-planes stay the same as in the original.

If I understand it correctly, those 3d-planes are some sort of table with information where on the Z-axis the different subtitle texts are positioned over time. And as the subs may have slightly different timings or sentence lenghts, the 3d-plane for i.e. the english subtitle texts might place the german subtitle texts at positions where they interfere with 3D objects from the movie.

So I think it would be desirable to keep the 3d-planes together with their corresponding subs if somehow possbible.
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But... you are doing a movie-only backup and it is going to an ISO. In BD-RB I have to support full backups. It's a completely different animal.
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Thank you Lathe! I was missing an answer too. I took an older X 264-64bit version from an earlier release and replaced it. Speed was about 120 fps in encoding again.
Full backup incl. burning is ~ 1 hour.
What version of BDRB did you take the x264_64.exe from...?

I'm just simply running the last version of BDRB.

JD, do you think that I should do that, or should I replace the .exe from the last version in this one and use the current new one?

I DO in fact always use LAVF, so it really does make a difference. For some odd reason, when I use FRIM (which is my only choice since I ALWAYS get that weird AnyDVD error on EVERY source when I use DirectShow) I notice that the BD-25 size always comes out a little short. No big deal, but with LAVF it almost always comes out to 22.9, whereas with FRIM it seems to come out to 21.xx most times. No biggie I guess...

Is there really any other difference using FRIM instead of LAVF...?

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What version of BDRB did you take the x264_64.exe from...?

I'm just simply running the last version of BDRB.

JD, do you think that I should do that, or should I replace the .exe from the last version in this one and use the current new one?

I DO in fact always use LAVF, so it really does make a difference. For some odd reason, when I use FRIM (which is my only choice since I ALWAYS get that weird AnyDVD error on EVERY source when I use DirectShow) I notice that the BD-25 size always comes out a little short. No big deal, but with LAVF it almost always comes out to 22.9, whereas with FRIM it seems to come out to 21.xx most times. No biggie I guess...

Is there really any other difference using FRIM instead of LAVF...?

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