madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Page 3050

huhn · 10th December 2020, 17:13

many "need" it you don't. there are quite some variables.

glc650 · 10th December 2020, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by *MidnightWatcher*

What Harmony remote model are you using? Thinking I need one.

Harmony Smart Control (which I don't think they sell any more) and the Hub I already had. It doesn't really matter as long as it is a hub model. The non-Hub models don't support IP or BT control (they may not support RF either I don't remember). The Elite is their high end hub model but I didn't like it (too buggy) so I switched to the cheapest Hub compatible model at the time (the Smart Control). I use both IR and BT to control my PC. IR just for on/off (couldn't get BT to turn on sleeping PC) and BT for the rest (BT has additional functions/key combos that can be assigned to buttons on the Harmony - perfect for using with autohotkey).

QBhd · 11th December 2020, 00:34

I still use the remote that came with my ATi All-in-Wonder 9600 Pro. It's RF.

There used to be plugins for it way back in the day... But those days are 15+ years of ancient history. Then I couldn't get it to work after Windows 7... Found a work around for that. Then I found Promixis Girder to map keyboard shortcuts. And found out that you can get it to start-up with a Windows start-up XML. They don't make things like they used to... When I clean it up, it looks brand new. And the effort it takes to keep it working is well worth it... RF is amazing

QB

cork_OS · 11th December 2020, 20:42

Planned Future Algorithms for ENVY:

AI-based motion interpolation
AI-based motion compensated video deinterlacing
AI-based motion compensated multi frame noise/grain reduction
AI-based grain agnostic sharpening
AI-based 4K HDR dynamic tone mapping processing

It doesn't seem to have been posted here. I wonder what are the chances of seeing these features in madVR?

quietvoid · 11th December 2020, 20:48

Probably only for RTX+ NVIDIA GPUs, if at all.

toki · 11th December 2020, 21:53

For some reason, the Nvidia driver seems to make 1080 video skip. It works fine with everything else.

chros · 11th December 2020, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by quietvoid

Probably only for RTX+ NVIDIA GPUs, if at all.

Close to 0 chance

maybe tone mapping. But honestly I wouldn't miss any of those, maybe motion interpolation.

clsid · 12th December 2020, 00:08

"AI" does not necessarily mean it will use Tensor cores. It may very well be new neural network trained algorithms. Similar to how NGU was made.

But new fancy stuff will likely be exclusive to Envy.

IngramAU · 12th December 2020, 01:11

Looks like the latest Nvidia drivers are broken for me. After playing a HDR show and stopping my desktop levels are blown rhe f out and washed out to the max. I have fiddled with just about everything and Nvidia remains the culprit. Back to 446 it is...

SamuriHL · 12th December 2020, 01:29

I've not had a chance to upgrade my HTPC to the latest yet. Something about Cyberpunk 2077 being released. LOL I'll check it out in a bit and post metadata results as well.

Asmodian · 12th December 2020, 01:35

I don't have any issues with HDR and 460.79.

3090, Win10 20H2, Zoom Player.

VBB · 12th December 2020, 01:47

Same here.

SamuriHL · 12th December 2020, 02:04

No issues for me. I posted in the driver thread.

IngramAU · 12th December 2020, 02:33

Looks like I was wrong as same issue under previous driver. What is happening is I'm playing a HDR episode in Media Portal and when I stop playback my TV is still reporting HDR mode is on. I then go to play a non HDR episode and HDR is still engaged on the TV however MadVR is not reporting NV HDR it's just reporting normal, this is causing my colours to be blown out or displayed way too dark.

Not sure what is causing it. Have recently updated Media Portal to latest and windows is now 20H2.

Anything I did within CRU would be undone with a driver change correct? I'm using DDU every time, reinstalling MadVr each time.

Issue isn't happening when I use MPC-HC so I guess something doesn't like Media Portal

VBB · 12th December 2020, 02:40

Yes, that is the issue chros described and I quoted when I asked you. Thanks for confirming that it has not been fixed. Perhaps it isn't happening for you with MPC-HC, because you have the player set to exit after playback.

Asmodian · 12th December 2020, 03:17

The way I use Zoom Player I naturally close it between videos (unless watching a series) so this issue does not affect me.

It does sound very annoying for those who don't want to restart the player and regularly watch a mix of HDR and SDR content.

IngramAU · 12th December 2020, 04:02

Sorry VBB I didn't see any question from you. What is the cause for this bug?

I'm now using external player within Media Portal and MPC-HC. It works for now until this is fixed. I wonder what the cause is however. Is the new Windows update to blame?

EDIT:

On a positive note, now with the recent Nvidia drivers actually reporting 23.976 and no longer needing custom refresh rate I can easily use 10Bit mode on my TV for 23/24Hz. Can't say it looks any better but I will just tell myself it does

SoySauceWDF · 12th December 2020, 05:39

For the last few months (can't remember exactly when it started) I've been having presentation glitches that visualize as frame drops. Using madvr (latest hdr beta), MPC-HC x64, 2080 ti, latest Nvidia drivers (been happening on multiple driver versions).

I'm using windowed mode but same thing happens in FSE. The only way to get rid of the presentation glitches is under Rendering - Windowed Mode, use flush & wait (sleep)... after copy to backbuffer. The problem then is that the render queue stops filling all the way, 3-4/8, and causes random stuttering and frame drops, especially after seeking. Also using Present Frames in Advance - 1.

Happens in both D3D11 and DXVA2 - Copyback in LAV filter settings. Did a clean uninstall and install of Nvidia drivers and that didn't help. Any advice is much appreciated.

EDIT - FIXED! - I had vsync forced on in the Nvidia control panel, so I turned it off in madvr and voila no presentation glitches

arcspin · 12th December 2020, 08:04

Here are a collection of settings that may help in battling the stutter problem.

In Nvidia Control panel and under manage 3D settings:
Change the Vertical sync to "ON".
Change the Power management mode to "Adaptive".

In madVR
Set (in madVR, under rendering - Windowed mode) present frames in advance to 1. (you can try other numbers as well, some have had good results with presenting 3 frames in advanced)

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ausvette · 14th December 2020, 04:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by VBB

Yes, that is the issue chros described and I quoted when I asked you. Thanks for confirming that it has not been fixed. Perhaps it isn't happening for you with MPC-HC, because you have the player set to exit after playback.

What are the last nvidia drivers which don't have the problem with BT2020 output stuck on and levels changed?

11th December 2020, 00:34	#60983 \| Link
QBhd QB the Slayer Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 697	I still use the remote that came with my ATi All-in-Wonder 9600 Pro. It's RF. There used to be plugins for it way back in the day... But those days are 15+ years of ancient history. Then I couldn't get it to work after Windows 7... Found a work around for that. Then I found Promixis Girder to map keyboard shortcuts. And found out that you can get it to start-up with a Windows start-up XML. They don't make things like they used to... When I clean it up, it looks brand new. And the effort it takes to keep it working is well worth it... RF is amazing QB __________________

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cork_OS Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 160	Planned Future Algorithms for ENVY: AI-based motion interpolation AI-based motion compensated video deinterlacing AI-based motion compensated multi frame noise/grain reduction AI-based grain agnostic sharpening AI-based 4K HDR dynamic tone mapping processing It doesn't seem to have been posted here. I wonder what are the chances of seeing these features in madVR? __________________ I'm infected with poor sources.

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SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	I've not had a chance to upgrade my HTPC to the latest yet. Something about Cyberpunk 2077 being released. LOL I'll check it out in a bit and post metadata results as well. __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

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Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,407	I don't have any issues with HDR and 460.79. 3090, Win10 20H2, Zoom Player. __________________ madVR options explained

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VBB Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Long Beach, CA, USA Posts: 620	Same here. __________________ Henry \| LG OLED65C7P \| Denon AVR-X3500H \| ELAC Uni-Fi x7 \| ELAC Debut 2.0 SUB3030 x2 \| NVIDIA SHIELD TV Pro 2019 \| Plex

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huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,926	many "need" it you don't. there are quite some variables.

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quietvoid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 574	Probably only for RTX+ NVIDIA GPUs, if at all.

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toki Registered User Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 69	For some reason, the Nvidia driver seems to make 1080 video skip. It works fine with everything else.

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clsid ***** Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,647	"AI" does not necessarily mean it will use Tensor cores. It may very well be new neural network trained algorithms. Similar to how NGU was made. But new fancy stuff will likely be exclusive to Envy.

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IngramAU Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 22	Looks like the latest Nvidia drivers are broken for me. After playing a HDR show and stopping my desktop levels are blown rhe f out and washed out to the max. I have fiddled with just about everything and Nvidia remains the culprit. Back to 446 it is...

12th December 2020, 02:04	#60993 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	No issues for me. I posted in the driver thread. __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

12th December 2020, 02:33	#60994 \| Link
IngramAU Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 22	Looks like I was wrong as same issue under previous driver. What is happening is I'm playing a HDR episode in Media Portal and when I stop playback my TV is still reporting HDR mode is on. I then go to play a non HDR episode and HDR is still engaged on the TV however MadVR is not reporting NV HDR it's just reporting normal, this is causing my colours to be blown out or displayed way too dark. Not sure what is causing it. Have recently updated Media Portal to latest and windows is now 20H2. Anything I did within CRU would be undone with a driver change correct? I'm using DDU every time, reinstalling MadVr each time. Issue isn't happening when I use MPC-HC so I guess something doesn't like Media Portal Last edited by IngramAU; 12th December 2020 at 02:37.

12th December 2020, 02:40	#60995 \| Link
VBB Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Long Beach, CA, USA Posts: 620	Yes, that is the issue chros described and I quoted when I asked you. Thanks for confirming that it has not been fixed. Perhaps it isn't happening for you with MPC-HC, because you have the player set to exit after playback. __________________ Henry \| LG OLED65C7P \| Denon AVR-X3500H \| ELAC Uni-Fi x7 \| ELAC Debut 2.0 SUB3030 x2 \| NVIDIA SHIELD TV Pro 2019 \| Plex

12th December 2020, 03:17	#60996 \| Link
Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,407	The way I use Zoom Player I naturally close it between videos (unless watching a series) so this issue does not affect me. It does sound very annoying for those who don't want to restart the player and regularly watch a mix of HDR and SDR content. __________________ madVR options explained

12th December 2020, 04:02	#60997 \| Link
IngramAU Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 22	Sorry VBB I didn't see any question from you. What is the cause for this bug? I'm now using external player within Media Portal and MPC-HC. It works for now until this is fixed. I wonder what the cause is however. Is the new Windows update to blame? EDIT: On a positive note, now with the recent Nvidia drivers actually reporting 23.976 and no longer needing custom refresh rate I can easily use 10Bit mode on my TV for 23/24Hz. Can't say it looks any better but I will just tell myself it does Last edited by IngramAU; 12th December 2020 at 04:05.

12th December 2020, 05:39	#60998 \| Link
SoySauceWDF Registered User Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 8	For the last few months (can't remember exactly when it started) I've been having presentation glitches that visualize as frame drops. Using madvr (latest hdr beta), MPC-HC x64, 2080 ti, latest Nvidia drivers (been happening on multiple driver versions). I'm using windowed mode but same thing happens in FSE. The only way to get rid of the presentation glitches is under Rendering - Windowed Mode, use flush & wait (sleep)... after copy to backbuffer. The problem then is that the render queue stops filling all the way, 3-4/8, and causes random stuttering and frame drops, especially after seeking. Also using Present Frames in Advance - 1. Happens in both D3D11 and DXVA2 - Copyback in LAV filter settings. Did a clean uninstall and install of Nvidia drivers and that didn't help. Any advice is much appreciated. EDIT - FIXED! - I had vsync forced on in the Nvidia control panel, so I turned it off in madvr and voila no presentation glitches Last edited by SoySauceWDF; 12th December 2020 at 22:07.

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arcspin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 31	Here are a collection of settings that may help in battling the stutter problem. In Nvidia Control panel and under manage 3D settings: Change the Vertical sync to "ON". Change the Power management mode to "Adaptive". In madVR Set (in madVR, under rendering - Windowed mode) present frames in advance to 1. (you can try other numbers as well, some have had good results with presenting 3 frames in advanced) Sent from my SM-F916B using Tapatalk