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Old 30th May 2013, 00:56   #17341  |  Link
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ENCODE_QUALITY=4 = preset slower
Placebo = waste of time and energy for nothing.
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ENCODE_QUALITY=4 = preset slower
Placebo = waste of time and energy for nothing.
Yep. That pretty much describes the benefits of "placebo".
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Old 30th May 2013, 06:19   #17343  |  Link
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I think it's pretty funny seeing people use 6 pass on some DVD encodes. Pretty pointless really...
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ENCODE_QUALITY=4 {Ultra High Quality (Extremely Slow)} for me, is the best for convert bd50 to bd25, many people do not distinguish between the original source and the converted! (45gb to 23,2gb)
course it takes time!, but this method works done after many, is the best possible quality. Also you have to see energy consumption, with the quality? If what is, is to get the best quality, if you have a powerful computer, in 3 or 4 hours you have the job done. Just wondering as trigger mode bdrebuilder placebo, to test their results.
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Old 30th May 2013, 19:31   #17345  |  Link
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I use "ENCODE_QUALITY = 4 whenever I have to encode a long movie or difficult compressibility to a DVD-5.
What I mean is that beyond the preset slower no change in image quality. I've done dozens of tests and can not and will not be able to distinguish differences between the results, unless I'm going blind.
I now only use the preset veryslow(16 ref frames) for example, if I wanted to encode at crf(no level restrictions) to save about 10% in file size while keeping the same quality. What I have not done a long time because of compatibility.
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Being one of the few whom is able to discern Original Vs Rerendered (be careful between the word meanings Re-rendered, Transcoded, and Copy (1:1)) video. I realize time is constant (cannot be saved) I still wouldn't use placebo as it's only good for body and thought health. For video, good for those wanting to experience...as anything is.

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Old 30th May 2013, 23:14   #17347  |  Link
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Hmm. My encoding rig has started to throw up BSODs after 0.44.09 was released. Nobody else has reported such issues on this thread, so I guess the rig got a bit damaged a while back when its PSU literally exploded. It runs fine on low CPU usage but doesn't like BD-RB anymore :/
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Wow! What brand was that Power supply? Totally opinion, but the power supply is arguably the most important component you DON'T wanna be cheap with I've heard some horror stories of power supplies taking literally every piece of hardware with it, when it popped. I would die if my 13+ Terabytes were suddenly gone :S Which reminds me I need more redundancies LOL!
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My encoding rig has started to throw up BSODs after 0.44.09 was released.
I'm running 44.09. Last night I set an encode running and woke up to a BSOD. Happened on Pass2. I started the job up again and it completed without any fuss. It's the first BSOD in a long while, but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it's related to BD-RB; it's been hot here, so it could be temp related.
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My encoding rig has started to throw up BSODs after 0.44.09
No BSOD on 44.09 here, but temps slightly higher because of warm weather. Perhaps its time to take the dust bunnies for a walk outside.
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I'm running 44.09. Last night I set an encode running and woke up to a BSOD. Happened on Pass2. I started the job up again and it completed without any fuss. It's the first BSOD in a long while, but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it's related to BD-RB; it's been hot here, so it could be temp related.
If it completed the next day -- then the problem couldn't have been BD-RB, unless you possibly changed some settings. One thing you can count on with software -- that given the same settings, input, and output, it will act exactly the same every time it runs.
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No BSOD on 44.09 here, but temps slightly higher because of warm weather. Perhaps its time to take the dust bunnies for a walk outside.
Yeah, I often monitor my temps when running jobs -- and I'm seeing them higher since spring began. I also had to go in and do some dust cleanup on my radiator not too long ago. I start to get these "crash" reports every year about this time.
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Old 31st May 2013, 02:40   #17353  |  Link
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Hi Jdobbs first of all many many thanks for the time invested in this software, in the last months i didn't do BD rebuilds because i don't have blank media...
sorry for the off-topic, but here is the only topic where someone can post an answer to my question, i bought on ebay a 50 pack of sony blanks BD, so here is the question? whats means this statement: "Capacity: 25GB / Speed: 1-4X Made for VIDEO and 3D works", someone already developed a software to burn BD-R 3D on 25 gb blanks? or is this related to use with standalone recorders?

Hope someone have a clue about this, again sorry for the off-topic.

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No idea. There is no physical difference between discs that hold data, video, or 3D. Sounds like marketing hype to me.
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Yeah, I often monitor my temps when running jobs -- and I'm seeing them higher since spring began. I also had to go in and do some dust cleanup on my radiator not too long ago. I start to get these "crash" reports every year about this time.
Well, my BSODs are not caused by overheating, of that I'm 100% certain by monitoring mobo and CPU temps during encoding. But I'm certainly willing to blame damaged hardware.
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I had an encoding orgy last night, sparked by learning of ENCODE_QUALITY=4. (Better late than never, right?) Ran three full backups at the highest quality and was surprised to see that even the slowest setting isn't really slow: all three rigs managed 10+ fps in pass two.

One of the three encodes turned out a bit odd. Here's the log:

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[05.31.13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.09 (beta)
[02:33:54] Source:  DERBLAUEMAX
  - Input BD size: 31,03 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:52:21.946]
  - Target BD size: 23,88 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
  - Quality: Ultra High Quality (Extremely Slow), Two Pass
  - Output folder: Q:\_ENCODES\
  - X264 Tweak(s) enabled      (--tune film only)
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[02:33:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [02:33:56] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 12)
 - [02:33:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [02:34:00] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 24 frames
   - Bitrate: 500 Kbs
 - [02:34:00] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
 - [02:34:01] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
 - [02:34:01] Video Encode complete
 - [02:34:01] Processing audio tracks
 - [02:34:01] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [02:34:04] Processing: VID_00005 (2 of 12)
 - [02:34:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
 - [03:28:48] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
 - [03:28:49] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [03:28:49] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [03:28:49] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [03:37:41] Processing: VID_00007 (3 of 12)
 - [03:37:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
 - [03:37:45] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
   - Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 25 frames
   - Bitrate: 1*510 Kbs
 - [03:37:45] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:37:46] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
 - [03:37:46] Video Encode complete
 - [03:37:46] Processing audio tracks
 - [03:37:46] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [03:37:50] Processing: VID_00008 (4 of 12)
 - [03:37:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
 - [03:37:53] Reencoding video [VID_00008]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
   - Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 25 frames
   - Bitrate: 5*934 Kbs
 - [03:37:53] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:37:53] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
 - [03:37:54] Video Encode complete
 - [03:37:54] Processing audio tracks
 - [03:37:54] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [03:37:57] Processing: VID_00011 (5 of 12)
 - [03:37:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
 - [03:38:01] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 25 frames
   - Bitrate: 500 Kbs
 - [03:38:01] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:38:01] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
 - [03:38:02] Video Encode complete
 - [03:38:02] Processing audio tracks
 - [03:38:02] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [03:38:05] Processing: VID_00012 (6 of 12)
 - [03:38:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
 - [03:38:13] Reencoding video [VID_00012]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
   - Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 4*510 frames
   - Bitrate: 4*488 Kbs
 - [03:38:13] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:38:26] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 2 of 2
 - [03:41:04] Video Encode complete
 - [03:41:04] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [03:41:04] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [03:41:09] Processing: VID_00022 (7 of 12)
 - [03:41:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
 - [03:41:20] Reencoding video [VID_00022]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 2*836 frames
   - Bitrate: 13*328 Kbs
 - [03:41:20] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:42:00] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 2 of 2
 - [03:46:46] Video Encode complete
 - [03:46:46] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [03:46:46] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [03:46:52] Processing: VID_00023 (8 of 12)
 - [03:46:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
 - [03:47:02] Reencoding video [VID_00023]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 1*901 frames
   - Bitrate: 14*825 Kbs
 - [03:47:02] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:47:34] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 2 of 2
 - [03:51:07] Video Encode complete
 - [03:51:07] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [03:51:07] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [03:51:13] Processing: VID_00024 (9 of 12)
 - [03:51:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
 - [03:51:20] Reencoding video [VID_00024]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
   - Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 4*213 frames
   - Bitrate: 5*161 Kbs
 - [03:51:20] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:51:31] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 2 of 2
 - [03:53:17] Video Encode complete
 - [03:53:17] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [03:53:17] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [03:53:22] Processing: VID_00025 (10 of 12)
 - [03:53:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
 - [03:53:28] Reencoding video [VID_00025]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
   - Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 3*501 frames
   - Bitrate: 3*742 Kbs
 - [03:53:28] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:53:37] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 2 of 2
 - [03:54:57] Video Encode complete
 - [03:54:57] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [03:54:57] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [03:55:01] Processing: VID_00026 (11 of 12)
 - [03:55:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
 - [03:55:11] Reencoding video [VID_00026]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1*450 frames
   - Bitrate: 16*098 Kbs
 - [03:55:11] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:55:31] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 2 of 2
 - [03:58:27] Video Encode complete
 - [03:58:27] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [03:58:27] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [03:58:32] Processing: VID_00027 (12 of 12)
 - [03:58:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
 - [03:58:39] Reencoding video [VID_00027]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
   - Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 3*771 frames
   - Bitrate: 4*488 Kbs
 - [03:58:39] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:58:50] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 2 of 2
 - [04:00:38] Video Encode complete
 - [04:00:38] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [04:00:38] Multiplexing M2TS
[04:00:42]PHASE ONE complete
[04:00:42]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [04:00:42] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[04:04:11] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.
The odd bit is that output is way undersized. While the other two encodes came within 500MB of a full BD-R, this one came out at 16GB (17 215 345 624 bytes) only. I'm aware this might have something to do with using a custom target size and it's therefore my own fault... but all three encodes were set for the same 24450MB target, and the other two came out perfect. I just don't see the logic behind these results.
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BD to iPad MP4 failed

I get this error: ERROR in attempt to mux (MP4BOX). Run inspect and everything's ok. Target size was 650 MB.
I also get this message: MP4Box doesn't work anymore.

[05/31/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.09 (beta)
[11:01:08] Source: ZAMBEZIA_00000
- Input BD size: 15,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:22:39.704]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: iPad MP4 SD, 720x480/576, 128Kbs AAC
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[11:01:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:01:11] Processing: VID_00005 (1 of 2)
- [11:01:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [11:06:04] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 118.890 frames
- Bitrate: 946 Kbs
- [11:06:04] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:23:38] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:41:17] Video Encode complete
- [11:41:17] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (nld): Reencoding audio to AAC...
- [11:45:11] Processing: VID_00015 (2 of 2)
- [11:45:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [11:45:15] Reencoding video [VID_00015]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 24 frames
- Bitrate: 200 Kbs
- [11:45:15] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:45:16] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:45:16] Video Encode complete
[11:45:16]PHASE ONE complete
[11:45:16]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:45:16] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MP4BOX)
[11:47:28] - Failed to REBUILD


[Status]
LABEL=ZAMBEZIA
VERSION=v0.44.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=16408387584
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=16408387584
TARGET_SIZE=10952376320
REDUCTION=.667486446424497
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=16
USE_LAVF=-1
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=2
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00005]
AUDIO=001
PGS=0
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=10952364017
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00015]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=12303
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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Hmm. My encoding rig has started to throw up BSODs after 0.44.09 was released. Nobody else has reported such issues on this thread, so I guess the rig got a bit damaged a while back when its PSU literally exploded. It runs fine on low CPU usage but doesn't like BD-RB anymore :/
Exploded? Literally? as in parts and pieces flew everywhere? Yeah, I'd be worried about other pieces getting damaged.

What did you replace the PSU that exploded with? i.e. what brand/wattage? I'm asking because there is a possibility that the new PSU isn't as strong or efficient as the one that was replaced. Maybe the load of video encoding is stressing the new PSU too much?

I know being heat related was suggested. Here in Chester County, PA (just west of Philly), we went from highs mostly in the upper 60's to low 70's (NO AC running), to the upper 80's and 90 the past few days. So if your AC wasn't running and keeping the house down to the same temps, over heating is a possibility.
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Unfortunately I don't speak German (Dutch maybe?). Anyway, can you translate what the MP4BOX error message says?
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That's not german it's dutch. It sais the following

MP4Box no longer working

A problem has occurred that cause MP4Box to stop functioning correctly. The program will be closed and a notification will be shown when a solution becomes available.

That's all it sais.

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