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Old 19th September 2018, 13:58   #52481  |  Link
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madVR v0.92.15 released

http://madshi.net/madVR.zip

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* HDR: improved overall tone mapping quality
* HDR: added "color tweaks for fire & explosions" option
* HDR: "restore details in compressed highlights" renamed to "highlight recovery"
* HDR: improved "highlight recovery" algo, now uses/requires DirectCompute
* HDR: added trade quality option "compromise on tone & gamut mapping accuracy"
* HDR: maxCLL is now used (if valid)
* HDR: added "hdrVideoPeak" profile variable
* HDR: added (limited) support for HDR OSD bitmaps
* added "report BT.2020 to display" calibration option
* added true GPU mode info (color format, bitdepth & dynamic range) to OSD (Nvidia only)
* fixed: low latency mode could result in judder/stuttering
* fixed: OSD API sometimes drew stuff in the wrong position
* fixed: madHcNet32/64.dll produced DCI-P3 3DLUTs with incorrect header
* added undocumented "ShowHdrMode" empty file/folder option
I've changed quite a bit of code for all the HDR changes, some of this just a couple of days ago (not even in the latest HDR test build yet). So there's a certain chance some new bugs might have crept in. If so, let me know. Fixing such new bugs should hopefully not be too difficult.

Here's a little HDR tone mapping comparison which shows the quality improvements:

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...67#post1852667

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Old 19th September 2018, 14:14   #52482  |  Link
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I don't want to touch a keyboard or a mouse just to play a film.
You can also give this a try:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=175007

@madshi, thanks for the new build!
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thank you ,
i give up, again i've tried again all 2018 drivers and the only one that is switching to HDR is 18.2.1 with my rx460.
I don't really undestand what's going on.
I had this exact same problem with my RX460, however this was fixed on 18.3.4, could be they've broken it again.

The thing is I replaced my RX460 with an RX 580 recently so if they have broken it, they may have just broke it on the RX460, all recent driver versions have worked for me, I am currently on 18.8.1

Remove the drivers completely using DDU and reinstall again using 18.3.4, if that works then try 18.8.1.

EDIT - double check again MADVR is set to 10bit, DIRECT3D11 is ticked as well, but also turn on HDR in windows just to see if HDR is triggering at all, but remember to turn it off again as this should always be off.

One other thing that has caused an issue for me is refresh rates, make sure you are playing the video in 23,976, there isnt enough bandwidth for 10bit 60hz 4k playback.
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Old 19th September 2018, 14:25   #52484  |  Link
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Render queue is longer filling up in .15 and presentation queue is affected by it. So it doesn't seem to be only cosmetic. Render time is as low as before.
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I had this exact same problem with my RX460, however this was fixed on 18.3.4, could be they've broken it again.

The thing is I replaced my RX460 with an RX 580 recently so if they have broken it, they may have just broke it on the RX460, all recent driver versions have worked for me, I am currently on 18.8.1

Remove the drivers completely using DDU and reinstall again using 18.3.4, if that works then try 18.8.1.
I am using 18.9.1 and HDR switching is working fine, just updated to v0.92.15 and it is still fine.

@mclingo Win10 1703 or 1709, today you said 1703, but in new Sig of today you have 1709.
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Thx for new build!

But windowed mode OSD (rendering time) still is broken for me. I think Windows 10 1803 (x64) introduce this bug. OSD show ~9ms rendering, but this impossible for my old Kepler GPU. Also i'm get different stast for FSE with same settings: ~9ms (wrong) vs ~20ms FSE (looks like truth).
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Render queue is longer filling up in .15 and presentation queue is affected by it. So it doesn't seem to be only cosmetic. Render time is as low as before.
Since you've not quoted anyone, it's not clear who or what you're talking to/about. Also the grammar of your post is quite weird. What does "Render queue is longer filling up" mean? And what does "it" refer to in your post?

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But windowed mode OSD (rendering time) still is broken for me. I think Windows 10 1803 (x64) introduce this bug. OSD show ~9ms rendering, but this impossible for my old Kepler GPU. Also i'm get different stast for FSE with same settings: ~9ms (wrong) vs ~20ms FSE (looks like truth).
There's a reason why I've recommend using Windows 8.1 for years now. I'm recommending against Windows 10 every single time, but it seems nobody is listening to me.
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Old 19th September 2018, 14:44   #52488  |  Link
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Thank you for the new build!

* added true GPU mode info (color format, bitdepth & dynamic range) to OSD (Nvidia only)

Not working for me on windows 7 ultimate x64, using DVI-D GTX 1050 TI. Driver version is 382.53.
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Not working for me on windows 7 ultimate x64, using DVI-D GTX 1050 TI. Driver version is 382.53.
Screenshot of your OSD?
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I am using 18.9.1 and HDR switching is working fine, just updated to v0.92.15 and it is still fine.

@mclingo Win10 1703 or 1709, today you said 1703, but in new Sig of today you have 1709.
sorry yes, 1709 as per my Sig.
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thx for the new build madshi!

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* added true GPU mode info (color format, bitdepth & dynamic range) to OSD (Nvidia only)
Is this only supported by the nvidia sdk? Not possible with amd?
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Since you've not quoted anyone, it's not clear who or what you're talking to/about. Also the grammar of your post is quite weird. What does "Render queue is longer filling up" mean? And what does "it" refer to in your post?


There's a reason why I've recommend using Windows 8.1 for years now. I'm recommending against Windows 10 every single time, but it seems nobody is listening to me.
8.1 is too old now mate and getting the free upgrade to win10 made a lot of sense for a lot of people for lots of reasons.

if most people are now on Win10 wouldnt it be better to start concentrating on win10 dev and trying to find workarounds for the win10 issues, people just arent going to be able to go back to 8.1 and probably wont want to.
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Screenshot of your OSD?
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8.1 is too old now mate and getting the free upgrade to win10 made a lot of sense for a lot of people for lots of reasons.

if most people are now on Win10 wouldnt it be better to start concentrating on win10 dev and trying to find workarounds for the win10 issues, people just arent going to be able to go back to 8.1 and probably wont want to.
I would stick to win 8.1, win 10 is a mess.
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There's a reason why I've recommend using Windows 8.1 for years now. I'm recommending against Windows 10 every single time, but it seems nobody is listening to me.
you are not alone on this!
to bad i'm a gamer.

and it doesn't matter if it is "old". it does so much stuff better than windows 10 when you run a HTPC. there will be thing it is worse at but right now i can't point out a single thing windows 8.1 is interior to windows 10 when madVR is your focus.

you can not simply workaround the broken things in windows 10. you will not workaround the utterly broken desktop composition.
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you are not alone on this!
to bad i'm a gamer.

and it doesn't matter if it is "old". it does so much stuff better than windows 10 when you run a HTPC. there will be thing it is worse at but right now i can't point out a single thing windows 8.1 is interior to windows 10 when madVR is your focus.

you can not simply workaround the broken things in windows 10. you will not workaround the utterly broken desktop composition.
Excellent post, huhn!
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I had this exact same problem with my RX460, however this was fixed on 18.3.4, could be they've broken it again.

The thing is I replaced my RX460 with an RX 580 recently so if they have broken it, they may have just broke it on the RX460, all recent driver versions have worked for me, I am currently on 18.8.1

Remove the drivers completely using DDU and reinstall again using 18.3.4, if that works then try 18.8.1.

EDIT - double check again MADVR is set to 10bit, DIRECT3D11 is ticked as well, but also turn on HDR in windows just to see if HDR is triggering at all, but remember to turn it off again as this should always be off.

One other thing that has caused an issue for me is refresh rates, make sure you are playing the video in 23,976, there isnt enough bandwidth for 10bit 60hz 4k playback.
thank you for the tips, i've checked dozen times, and see that when i change drivers I always use ddu and also i don't change anything else in madvr, the only 2018 driver that is working is 18.2.1
At the moment the only thing that make me use madvr is the support for HDR + 10bit. I use also htpc to play some games with the family, the day that i need to update drivers for a game and hdr became broken...... probably I'll go to other kind of devices to play hdr videos.... i can't struggle so much for a thing that i'm not totally convinced that is completly a driver issue, do you know if there are video players that support HDR nativetly , without the need of madvr ?
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Please not this Win10 vs Win8 discussion again !! There are no drivers lower than Win10 for my hardware so I would welcome improvements but would understand if Madshi don't want to do that.

Now that the most work on HDR seem to be done - any chance that you might look into the SD-files green screen now ?
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hmm, i'm tempted to drop back to 8.1, i'm not a gamer, I need to have a think about this, rebuilding my HTPC server is a big job, what am I really going to gain / lose here?
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@ Madshi,

madVR v0.92.15 released
* added "report BT.2020 to display" calibration option

Wow - ticked, and select BT2020 with a gamma of 2.40 and my SUHD set Color Space to Auto = heaven!!

Thanks for making Madvr something I could never be without - simply an amazing build.
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