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Old 31st March 2014, 04:46   #19781  |  Link
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Jdobbs, i don't mind paying a little if it'll do what i want it too. Perhaps neuron2 can help you in that endeavour. As afaik he has experience with cuda due to his dgdecnv. I'd be happy to pay $15 rather than a new system entirely. As for a new processor I'd need a new motherboard, which triggers new ram etc as my current mono doesn't support the i-series. It uses socket lga775. Other than that its currently estimated just over 6hrs for a full 45gb disc. Can't say that that's too bad.

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I'm sure Nvidia will do decoding of 3D -- but I haven't heard anything about MVC encoding.
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I've only know one software(you can probably guess which) that partially disabled this check. It would play just as long as the player was 3D. The TV didn't have to be. So it seem the 3D player is needed probably to show menus properly but the TV part of it isn't. It would be nice to know how that was done.
There's a register in the player that can be set with commands that indicates whether the display can handle 3D. But the other important ones related to 3D are read-only. I would think you'd still have problems -- as the player would try to send a signal to the TV that is out of its capability.

The only way you could do it right would be to have a JAVA and/or command sequence interpreter that would simulate the player and look for places where the 3D registers are being read -- and it would then have to change the code during backup... but that's not practical at all.
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Perhaps you could contact them or neuron2. That's all i can ask, until i can find the funds for a new system. Been wanting one for a while anyway. Until you find a way, the current one will do just fine. Finally a real solution and alternative for users not wanting to relying on (in my view crappy) dvdfab/blufab

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There's a register in the player that can be set with commands that indicates whether the display can handle 3D. But the other important ones related to 3D are read-only. I would think you'd still have problems -- as the player would try to send a signal to the TV that is out of its capability.

The only way you could do it right would be to have a JAVA and/or command sequence interpreter that would simulate the player and look for places where the 3D registers are being read -- and it would then have to change the code during backup... but that's not practical at all.
Could that register command setting be included as a hidden option to see how it pans out?
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So Top Gun 3D just finished succesfully, but with a downside. Using the default settings (no frim switches, no mux metho switches), PDVD 11 only displayed the menu in 3D, not the movie itself. I verified against the original and that one was properly displayed in 3D. will rerunning the job but this time with the FORCE_INMUX_3D=1 option make a difference? As i do not have a standalone PDVD 11 will have to suffice for now as i don't have any friends with 3D hardware.

I would love to get some recommendations for 3D standalone players though but in my pm box only as to not go offtopic. 2 requirements: either panasonic/LG and licensed pre feb 1st 2012 (want to avoid cinavia i'll then go on a hunt to see where i can find one in BE, NL and/or FR)
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will rerunning the job but this time with the FORCE_INMUX_3D=1 option make a difference?
It certainly did for me. Out-of-mux 3D version played in 2D on PDVD, but in-mux-3D played in 3D. This leads me to think that PDVD does not understand/support out-of-mux 3D.
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I know it has me wondering if I may want to buy an i7 processor...
If you do start shopping for an i7, do keep in mind that not all of them have internal GPUs. The fastest CPU I have is the i7-3930K which belongs to Intel's "High End Desktop" series of i7 CPUs, and none of the CPUs in that series have a GPU.
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The one i had my eye set on before a financial setback prevented me from purchasing the rig i had configured was the i7-3770k, think that one did have the untenable gpu

@Colin: i wonder why the menu was in 3d then though.
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@Colin: i wonder why the menu was in 3d then though.
I bet that's processed somehow differently, because in my out-of-mux test menu was also in 3D, but the movie was in 2D.
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I don't understand what you are saying.
Sorry my English.

In the new version, said, although the output size is 25 gigabytes of disk, the programe re-encoded. If I put 50 gigabytes of output size, do not return to encodes and the result is less than 25, because the program does not detect that you don't have to re-encode because it fit on a BD-25?

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I can conform that Power DVD 11 seems to have issues with out-of-mux-3D. I loaded my Disc from yesterday (Man of Steel) up in Power DVD for a quick red/cyan-test. While the 3D controls are enabled and you get the color shift when enabling red/cyan output the movie doesn't show any depth whatsoever.
The same disc plays fine in my standalone Panasonic and in Arcsoft TMT6.
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I can conform that Power DVD 11 seems to have issues with out-of-mux-3D. I loaded my Disc from yesterday (Man of Steel) up in Power DVD for a quick red/cyan-test. While the 3D controls are enabled and you get the color shift when enabling red/cyan output the movie doesn't show any depth whatsoever.
The same disc plays fine in my standalone Panasonic and in Arcsoft TMT6.
Thanks for the confirmation!
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The one i had my eye set on before a financial setback prevented me from purchasing the rig i had configured was the i7-3770k, think that one did have the untenable gpu

@Colin: i wonder why the menu was in 3d then though.
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I think I'll stick with what I have. Those i7s are really expensive. My AMD FX-8350 gets about 9-10.5fps for MVC encodes, and I can live with that. A 2 hour movie takes a little less than 5 hours.

Menus are almost always multipart. Multipart sources are always done in-mux.

I'm making in-mux MVC the default in the next release.
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I can conform that Power DVD 11 seems to have issues with out-of-mux-3D. I loaded my Disc from yesterday (Man of Steel) up in Power DVD for a quick red/cyan-test. While the 3D controls are enabled and you get the color shift when enabling red/cyan output the movie doesn't show any depth whatsoever.
The same disc plays fine in my standalone Panasonic and in Arcsoft TMT6.
Without a doubt the issue is PowerDVD, not BD-RB. I can't fix, and can't take responsibility for PowerDVD's problems. So I'd suggest anyone having that issue post it on THEIR forum.

But, as I said, I am making in-mux the default. This kind of thing is exactly why I limited the release of v0.47.3 -- to pick up anomalies the happen in the real world that aren't necessarily "bugs".
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Without a doubt the issue is PowerDVD, not BD-RB.
I don't think anyone's pointing the finger at BD-RB here
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I don't think anyone's pointing the finger at BD-RB here
I appreciate people posting their experiences, even if it isn't a bug. That's how the software improves. I just want to be clear what is and isn't a problem in BD-RB
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when will it be posted @jobbs .
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@ jdobbs i ment
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when will it be posted @jobbs .
I'm not sure. I also have to make changes to movie-only rebuilds so they use in-mux, and it isn't as simple since BD-RB will have to create the BD structure in addition to CLPI. In the meantime the FORCE_INMUX_3D option works.
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[03/30/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.14 (beta)
[20:42:15] Source:  THE_ODD_LIFE_OF_TIMOTHY_GREEN
  - Input BD size: 39.99 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:27:53.489]
  - Target BD size: 22.95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[20:42:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [20:42:20] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 20)
 - [20:42:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
 - [21:02:14] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 150,504 frames
   - Bitrate: 20,301 Kbs
 - [21:02:14] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
 - [21:51:10] Video Encode complete
 - [21:51:10] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [21:51:11] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [21:56:26] Processing: VID_00875 (2 of 20)
 - [21:56:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00875]
 - [21:56:53] Reencoding video [VID_00875]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,992 frames
   - Bitrate: 18,696 Kbs
 - [21:56:53] Reencoding: VID_00875, Pass 1 of 1
 - [21:59:26] Video Encode complete
 - [21:59:26] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [21:59:26] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [21:59:33] Processing: VID_00876 (3 of 20)
 - [21:59:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00876]
 - [22:01:08] Reencoding video [VID_00876]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 13,310 frames
   - Bitrate: 18,506 Kbs
 - [22:01:08] Reencoding: VID_00876, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:12:09] Video Encode complete
 - [22:12:09] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:12:09] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:12:30] Processing: VID_00877 (4 of 20)
 - [22:12:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00877]
 - [22:14:15] Reencoding video [VID_00877]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,689 frames
   - Bitrate: 18,509 Kbs
 - [22:14:15] Reencoding: VID_00877, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:26:24] Video Encode complete
 - [22:26:24] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:26:24] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:26:43] Processing: VID_00878 (5 of 20)
 - [22:26:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00878]
 - [22:26:48] Reencoding video [VID_00878]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 168 frames
   - Bitrate: 6,674 Kbs
 - [22:26:48] Reencoding: VID_00878, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:26:51] Video Encode complete
 - [22:26:51] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:26:51] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:26:55] Processing: VID_00879 (6 of 20)
 - [22:26:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00879]
 - [22:27:06] Reencoding video [VID_00879]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 954 frames
   - Bitrate: 18,736 Kbs
 - [22:27:06] Reencoding: VID_00879, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:27:55] Video Encode complete
 - [22:27:55] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:27:55] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:27:59] Processing: VID_00880 (7 of 20)
 - [22:27:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00880]
 - [22:28:04] Reencoding video [VID_00880]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 168 frames
   - Bitrate: 6,674 Kbs
 - [22:28:04] Reencoding: VID_00880, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:28:06] Video Encode complete
 - [22:28:06] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:28:06] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:28:10] Processing: VID_00881 (8 of 20)
 - [22:28:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00881]
 - [22:28:22] Reencoding video [VID_00881]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,145 frames
   - Bitrate: 18,634 Kbs
 - [22:28:22] Reencoding: VID_00881, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:29:19] Video Encode complete
 - [22:29:19] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:29:19] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:29:24] Processing: VID_00882 (9 of 20)
 - [22:29:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00882]
 - [22:29:28] Reencoding video [VID_00882]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 168 frames
   - Bitrate: 6,674 Kbs
 - [22:29:29] Reencoding: VID_00882, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:29:32] Video Encode complete
 - [22:29:32] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:29:32] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:29:35] Processing: VID_00883 (10 of 20)
 - [22:29:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00883]
 - [22:29:51] Reencoding video [VID_00883]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,583 frames
   - Bitrate: 18,665 Kbs
 - [22:29:51] Reencoding: VID_00883, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:31:08] Video Encode complete
 - [22:31:08] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:31:08] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:31:13] Processing: VID_00884 (11 of 20)
 - [22:31:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00884]
 - [22:31:18] Reencoding video [VID_00884]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 168 frames
   - Bitrate: 6,674 Kbs
 - [22:31:18] Reencoding: VID_00884, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:31:21] Video Encode complete
 - [22:31:21] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:31:21] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:31:24] Processing: VID_00885 (12 of 20)
 - [22:31:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00885]
 - [22:31:34] Reencoding video [VID_00885]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 790 frames
   - Bitrate: 18,676 Kbs
 - [22:31:34] Reencoding: VID_00885, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:32:12] Video Encode complete
 - [22:32:12] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:32:12] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:32:17] Processing: VID_00886 (13 of 20)
 - [22:32:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00886]
 - [22:32:21] Reencoding video [VID_00886]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 168 frames
   - Bitrate: 6,674 Kbs
 - [22:32:21] Reencoding: VID_00886, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:32:24] Video Encode complete
 - [22:32:24] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:32:24] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:32:27] Processing: VID_00887 (14 of 20)
 - [22:32:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00887]
 - [22:33:17] Reencoding video [VID_00887]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,749 frames
   - Bitrate: 18,632 Kbs
 - [22:33:17] Reencoding: VID_00887, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:37:17] Video Encode complete
 - [22:37:17] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:37:17] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:37:31] Processing: VID_00888 (15 of 20)
 - [22:37:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00888]
 - [22:37:41] Reencoding video [VID_00888]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,537 frames
   - Bitrate: 9,583 Kbs
 - [22:37:41] Reencoding: VID_00888, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:38:36] Video Encode complete
 - [22:38:36] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:38:36] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:38:41] Processing: VID_00890 (16 of 20)
 - [22:38:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00890]
 - [22:38:55] Reencoding video [VID_00890]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,668 frames
   - Bitrate: 10,215 Kbs
 - [22:38:55] Reencoding: VID_00890, Pass 1 of 1
  - Encode failed.  Aborting.
  - BD-Rebuilder v0.46.14 (beta)
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - Working Path Free Space: 35.33GB
  - AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
  - HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
  - FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
  - WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC:  Ok
  - WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC:  Ok
  - WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC:  Ok
  - FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
  - FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec":  Ok
  - FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec":  Ok
  - AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
  - X264:  Ok
  - AFTEN:  Ok
  - FAAC:  Ok
  - MP4BOX:  Ok
  - WAVI:  Ok
  - TSMUXER:  Ok
  - FRIMEncode:  Ok
  - FRIMDecode:  Ok
[22:38:56] - Failed video encode, aborted
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD-RB v0.46.0.14, not current
bd-rb not current?
this was wierd cuz i jusr d/l the soft ware from this site

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