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Old 11th February 2020, 01:04   #29261  |  Link
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The GTX-1660 is also a turning card.
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Old 11th February 2020, 02:56   #29262  |  Link
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Failure in attempt to multiplex???

I was trying to do the movie UHD movie Aladdin. It took 10 hours to build and it failed at the end: Failed to REBUILD, could you please tell me what went wrong???
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[02/10/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.05
[09:58:22] Source: ALADDIN_00800
- Input BD size: 58.18 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:07:58.879]
- Target BD size: 46.26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:58:29] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:58:29] Processing: VID_00055 (1 of 1)
- [09:58:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00055]
- [10:16:09] Reencoding video [VID_00055]
- Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 184,109 frames
- Bitrate: 39,694 Kbs
- [10:16:09] Reencoding: VID_00055, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:19:40] Video Encode complete
- [18:19:40] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
[18:19:40]PHASE ONE complete
[18:19:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:19:40] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Demuxing time: 17 min 37 sec
[18:20:33] - Failed to REBUILD
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Old 11th February 2020, 10:17   #29263  |  Link
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The GTX-1660 is also a turning card.
Turning what/where? Towards the next model which is on the horizon?
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Old 11th February 2020, 11:32   #29264  |  Link
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The GTX-1660 is also a turning card.
yes 1660 is ok, but the 1650 does not support B-frames as its using the older chip
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Old 11th February 2020, 11:49   #29265  |  Link
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yes 1660 is ok, but the 1650 does not support B-frames as its using the older chip
The 1650 as well as the 1050Ti support B-frames for H.264 (AVC) but not for H.265 (HEVC).
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Turning what/where? Towards the next model which is on the horizon?
Oops, my fingers got carried away.
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Old 11th February 2020, 16:18   #29267  |  Link
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Yep, I just uploaded some Samples with different CRF, let the video enthusiasts decide ... I can't see much of a difference ... even at a tenth of the original filesize.
The encoding for each file took less than 10 seconds, but the secondary stream from the orignal is lost in the samples
Original.mkv - 270MB
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H265Main10High10bitLvl5.1QP24.mkv - 38MB
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[Edit] You're right... you'd never guess by looking that the 38MB file was compressed that much more than the 270MB original.
Agreed.... I extracted the Dolby Vision stream from the 'original.mkv' file and added it to the 'H265Main10High10bitLvl5.1QP24.mkv' encode using TSmuxer GUI 'open source'. The OPPO plays the new mux in Dolby Vision without any issues and it looks very good indeed. Amazing...

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Old 12th February 2020, 05:09   #29268  |  Link
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yes 1660 is ok, but the 1650 does not support B-frames as its using the older chip
The 1650 Super does, is the cheapest one, quality still is crap vs x265
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Old 12th February 2020, 05:13   #29269  |  Link
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CFR mode produces badly undersized results in UHD mode, I think the issue is that the produced test pass has a lot of corrupted frames, and that screw the size prediction.
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Old 12th February 2020, 13:32   #29270  |  Link
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CFR mode produces badly undersized results in UHD mode, I think the issue is that the produced test pass has a lot of corrupted frames, and that screw the size prediction.
Yeah. It definitely needs work. AVISYNTH apparently has a hard time locating a keyframe when pulling out encoding samples, and you end up with corrupted frames. I'd suggest using single-pass ABR instead until I can figure out a better way to select samples for prediction.
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Old 12th February 2020, 15:33   #29271  |  Link
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It's not really an AviSynth problem. Are you using LAV Filters to seek in HEVC-in-TS? It's a known limitation of LAV Filters to not seek to keyframes, then (because of the container not providing an index as opposed to mkv/mp4). I think with H.264 it at least mitigates the problem a bit by waiting for a keyframe which might be good enough for CRF/bitrate estimation. There's a reason people are more likely to recommend lwlibavvideosource() instead of DirectShowSource() outside of this sub-forum.
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Old 13th February 2020, 04:35   #29272  |  Link
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Please tell me what is wrong??

I am trying to reduce the Jumanji UHD movie from 54 GB to 46 GB to burn on a 50 GB disk. The re-encode takes over 11 hours then when trying to re-build structure it fails?? Why?? This sucks?

[02/12/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.05
[09:13:31] Source: JUMANJI_WELCOME_TO_THE_JUNGLE_00822
- Input BD size: 54.11 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:59:03.135]
- Target BD size: 46.26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:13:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:13:33] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [09:13:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [09:27:15] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 171,264 frames
- Bitrate: 41,378 Kbs
- [09:27:15] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:59:21] Video Encode complete
- [19:59:21] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
[19:59:21]PHASE ONE complete
[19:59:21]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:59:21] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Bitstream exception. Adjusting...
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Bitstream exception std::exception. It does not have to be! Please contact application support team for more information.
[20:08:22] - Failed to REBUILD
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Old 14th February 2020, 01:56   #29273  |  Link
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If I re-open of re-rebuilder and have it continue from where it left off, it rebuilds the BD file structure the progress bar on the bottom gets to 100 percent rebuild then the error occurs at very end?
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Old 16th February 2020, 15:04   #29274  |  Link
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Today .. Dvdfab failed to do a movie only, of
A Shaun the Sheep Movie Farmageddon...
It came up error on disk `message from oppo .

But BdRebuiler did it, no problem ..(with no re-encode) options.
but I also took 2 audio streams out .. Things are getting good.
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Old 16th February 2020, 23:33   #29275  |  Link
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If I re-open of re-rebuilder and have it continue from where it left off, it rebuilds the BD file structure the progress bar on the bottom gets to 100 percent rebuild then the error occurs at very end?
It's rare -- but I've seen that error a couple of times. It comes from TSMUXER. Sometimes it just gets confused by the source. I'm not sure why yet, but if I can put my finger on the issue, maybe I'll be able to find a workaround.
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How is BD-RB so wildly off-size? I have a blu-ray that's only 4.73GB, so I ask it to encode to BD-5 (4.37GB). Result: 3.73GB. This is with highest quality, 2-pass. The entire point of 2-pass is to get exact size. I've repeated this with FULL blu-rays, to BD25. The result is ALWAYS smaller than DVDFAB, thus, lesser quality. It's off by GIGABYTES. Custom size 23.3GB? BD-RB gives me 19-21GB.
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How is BD-RB so wildly off-size? I have a blu-ray that's only 4.73GB, so I ask it to encode to BD-5 (4.37GB). Result: 3.73GB. This is with highest quality, 2-pass. The entire point of 2-pass is to get exact size. I've repeated this with FULL blu-rays, to BD25. The result is ALWAYS smaller than DVDFAB, thus, lesser quality. It's off by GIGABYTES. Custom size 23.3GB? BD-RB gives me 19-21GB.
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From your log:

- Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs

You are hitting the maximum bitrate for an AVCHD disc. BD-RB can't make it any larger without risking exceeding the speed that a BD-5 can handle.

So... BD-RB isn't "wildly off-size" -- it is doing exactly what it supposed to do to prevent the disc from skipping and/or failing during playback.
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How is BD-RB so wildly off-size? I have a blu-ray that's only 4.73GB, so I ask it to encode to BD-5 (4.37GB). Result: 3.73GB. This is with highest quality, 2-pass. The entire point of 2-pass is to get exact size. I've repeated this with FULL blu-rays, to BD25. The result is ALWAYS smaller than DVDFAB, thus, lesser quality. It's off by GIGABYTES. Custom size 23.3GB? BD-RB gives me 19-21GB.
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The Max official allowable bitrates for AVCHD are:

1. (BD media) ~24Mbps v+a+sub/pic
2. (DVD media) ~18Mbps v+a+sub/pic (this is supposed to also equal BD-9 spec)

and the new Max AVCHD/3D and AVCHD/60p rates are:
~28Mbps v+a+sub/pic (only BD media is supported)

As you can see, BD/AVCHD titles on DVD media are more limited by the spin/transfer capability of the DVD playback chain than by the spec's limits, so it often depends on the brand/quality of the playback equipment. Realistically speaking, you should set the target bitrate to fall in the 1/4 to 1/3 (possibly/occasionally 1/2) compared to BD rates.
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And, although you mention it, I want to emphasize... the 18Mbs is the combined total of video, all audio tracks, subtitles, and muxing overhead (which is significant in an M2TS file). That's why BD-RB puts a 15Mbs limit on video.
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Old 22nd February 2020, 01:12   #29280  |  Link
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More information on the failure for 4K movie Jumanji

It does not matter if you select the target output to be 25 gb or 50 gb. Both selections fail. I do have an AMD processor. The final status is Current Progress: 100.00% and Overall Progress: 99.00%

[02/21/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.05
[16:56:55] Source: JUMANJI_WELCOME_TO_THE_JUNGLE_00001
- Input BD size: 54.11 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:59:03.135]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:56:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[16:56:59]PHASE ONE complete
[16:56:59]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:56:59] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Bitstream exception. Adjusting...
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Bitstream exception std::exception. It does not have to be! Please contact application support team for more information.
[17:00:34] - Failed to REBUILD
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