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Old 8th July 2010, 20:29   #8721  |  Link
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Something has gone wrong with the new version. I've just replaced .02 and when I tried a disk which was still on my HDD from a previous encode, it immediately gives ' - Error in attempt to extract audio/subs'

Just tried another disc I encoded this morning with .02 and it also does the same.
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Old 8th July 2010, 20:52   #8722  |  Link
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Something has gone wrong with the new version. I've just replaced .02 and when I tried a disk which was still on my HDD from a previous encode, it immediately gives ' - Error in attempt to extract audio/subs'

Just tried another disc I encoded this morning with .02 and it also does the same.
I just downloaded it and installed it -- and it works correctly for me. Try rebooting your computer.

Is anyone else getting an extract error with the new version?
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Old 8th July 2010, 21:01   #8723  |  Link
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Okay - I've fixed it. If I use 'High Priority' I get it but if I change it back to idle or normal it's fine??
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Old 8th July 2010, 21:24   #8724  |  Link
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Is anyone else getting an extract error with the new version?[/QUOTE]

I just download it and install it and I restarted my computer and still give the same error
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6000]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD-RB v0.34.0.3, not current
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Old 8th July 2010, 21:55   #8725  |  Link
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Is anyone else getting an extract error with the new version?

I just download it and install it and I restarted my computer and still give the same error
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6000]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD-RB v0.34.0.3, not current
Ignore the "not current" (look back a couple of posts). I forgot to update "INSPECT.EXE"
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Old 8th July 2010, 22:15   #8726  |  Link
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Okay - I've fixed it. If I use 'High Priority' I get it but if I change it back to idle or normal it's fine??
Hmmm... it does the same for me. I guess I'd better fix that.
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Old 8th July 2010, 22:31   #8727  |  Link
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BD Rebuilder v0.34.04 (beta)

I've updated the first post of this thread with an updated link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.34.04). Changes for this update:
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- Corrected an issue that would make BD-RB fail if the
  HIGH_PRIORITY option was selected.
- Corrected INPECT.EXE to not show the BD-RB version as
  outdated ("not current").
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.
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Old 8th July 2010, 22:45   #8728  |  Link
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Thx for the additional priority choice. Now thats 2 suggestions i made i've seen implemented Love the software. Next stop, the ability to minimise to system tray ^^
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Thx for the additional priority choice. Now thats 2 suggestions i made i've seen implemented Love the software. Next stop, the ability to minimise to system tray ^^
You can already do that. Select "Minimize to Tray" from the FILE menu. Then whenever you minimize it will be put in the tray.
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I'm experiencing a problem with INVICTUS (region 2) and I'm not even sure if this is a bug or whether PIP or certain kinds of PIPs are simply not possible.

So far I have NOT burned the title to a BD-RE but will do so. The problem I have with this title is:

the first bonus material of what is called "specials" in this movie is this PIP feature and the problem is the sound of the PIP commentary.
it is a DD+ 96kbps stream which cannot be understood at all

other special features like the "making of" or the "eastwood-factor" have NO PIP and decent soundstreams with 192kbps and they are perfectly fine.

the main title is somewhat problematic in the sound department as well:
I cannot get the main movies audio streams to play properly. They should be fine as they still are DTS-HD and DD streams but whatever language or stream I choose from the menu the main title starts with this crappy 96kbps director's comment and i can NOT change the sound in the usual way in the software player.

As the title does not play on the PC I dont think that burning the tilte to a media and play it with a hardware BD Player will chnage things that much that the title can be watched, but I will give it a try.


Did I simply miss those posts in this long thread which would have told me: PIP does not work yet?

If so: sorry for bringing this up once more.
If not: is there any setting I could change?

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I'm experiencing a problem with INVICTUS (region 2) and I'm not even sure if this is a bug or whether PIP or certain kinds of PIPs are simply not possible.

So far I have NOT burned the title to a BD-RE but will do so. The problem I have with this title is:

the first bonus material of what is called "specials" in this movie is this PIP feature and the problem is the sound of the PIP commentary.
it is only a DD+ 96kbps stream which cannot be understood at all

I have no idea where I might any option to change the bitrate for these kind of sound streams but i tried with 34.02 and 34.03 and both results were the same

other special features like the "making of" or the "eastwood-factor" have NO PIP and decent soundstreams with 192kbps and they are perfectly fine.

the main title is somewhat problematic in the sound department as well:
I cannot get the main movies audio streams to play properly. They should be fine as they still are DTS-HD and DD streams but whatever language or stream I choose from the menu the main title starts with this crappy 96kbps director's comment and i can NOT change the sound in the usual way in the software player.

As the title does not play on the PC I dont think that burning the tilte to a media and play it with a hardware BD Player will chnage things that much that the title can be watched, but I will give it a try.


Did I simply miss those posts in this long thread which would have told me: PIP does not work yet?

If so: sorry for bringing this up once more.
If not: is there any setting I could change?
DD+ PiP should work properly. It cannot be converted and stays in its original form. DTS Express PiP audio cannot be processed at this time.
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Old 9th July 2010, 01:37   #8732  |  Link
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Software players are not the best for testing, so you should burn to BD-RE and test on a standalone.
I'm pretty sure your results will be different, and it will also be a better report for jdobbs, who has stated he is not a fan of software players!
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Old 9th July 2010, 02:14   #8733  |  Link
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Yes, decomb is always used for 720p conversion from interlaced sources. It has to be.
Thanks for clearing that up I assumed it used a different algorithm by default. Do you have any plans to add more deinterlacing options in the future I find the current one seems somewhat jerky when compared to the 1080i source. Anyway ace software.
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Old 9th July 2010, 03:08   #8734  |  Link
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I'm somewhat new to all this, so if I made any mistakes below, someone please correct me.

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1080i video plays very smoothly im guessing because its 60 fields per second or because of the deinterlacer, I understand that when reencoding to 1080p you only have 30 frames per second to work with so some of the fluidity is lost but is there not a way of preserving this when encoding 1080i to 720p since its 60fps. When watching my 720p encodes (from 1080i source) they look like 30fps and not 60.
From what I've seen, Blu-ray specs allow neither 1080p30 nor 720p30. 1080p is restricted to 23.976 or 24 fps, and 720p can be used at 23.397/24 fps or 50/59.94 fps. So presumably BD-RB is reencoding 1080i59.94 to 720p59.94, but you may be losing temporal resolution depending on the deinterlacing method.

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1080i is only 30 frames per second also (as you said, 60 fields). The only way you could preserve the "fluidity" would be if you converted each field to a frame -- but in doing so you'd loose resolution (each field is only 540 lines). I really don't think the difference between 30fps and 60fps is very detectable.
If you're losing temporal resolution going from 1080i"60" to (effective) 720p"30" (due to your interlacing method), you are losing the "high-motion" effect which supposedly kicks in somewhere around 45 Hz. Arguably, for some content, preserving high-motion/temporal resolution at the expense of horizontal resolution is preferable, therefore...

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Seconded. Bob/line-doubling might be a nice option to have to retain high motion (correct?).

Sorry if this was off-topic for the bug thread.
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Old 9th July 2010, 03:26   #8735  |  Link
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Thanks for clearing that up I assumed it used a different algorithm by default. Do you have any plans to add more deinterlacing options in the future I find the current one seems somewhat jerky when compared to the 1080i source. Anyway ace software.
The new Filter Editor makes it possible to use any deinterlacing filter that is available under AVISYNTH.
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If you're losing temporal resolution going from 1080i"60" to (effective) 720p"30" (due to your interlacing method), you are losing the "high-motion" effect which supposedly kicks in somewhere around 45 Hz. Arguably, for some content, preserving high-motion/temporal resolution at the expense of horizontal resolution is preferable, therefore...
Could be... I'll do some testing. The resulting 540 lines would be converted to 720 so you're losing some vertical resolution anyway -- keeping the temporal resolution may be preferable. I just worry that its getting too close to SD at 540.

My preference is to just leave it alone and keep 1080i.
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Could be... I'll do some testing. The resulting 540 lines would be converted to 720 so you're losing some vertical resolution anyway -- keeping the temporal resolution may be preferable. I just worry that its getting too close to SD at 540.
Cool, please let us know what you conclude.

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Agreed--I never thought to ask, but laney might let us know why it's preferable to convert to 720p for this material.
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Hmmm... it does the same for me. I guess I'd better fix that.
The same for me.
I would also like to run it in High Priority as Win7 is in a Virtual Machine (Parallels in OSX).
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Old 9th July 2010, 09:52   #8739  |  Link
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I have still never managed to do certain discs which have DTS-HD XLL Stereo soundtracks (Clash of the Titans and The Last Emperor) come to mind. If I do the discs to bd-25 and leave the audio untouched, they are fine. However, if they are to bd-9, the audio isn't heard and if I read the m2ts file into tsmuxer it reports it as unsupported. I tried again with the latest version and used the 'Use 192 kbs' option, but still the same problem.
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DD+ PiP should work properly. It cannot be converted and stays in its original form. DTS Express PiP audio cannot be processed at this time.
I'm definitely dealing with DD+ and not DTS Express and that's why i was wondering.

The attached screenshot shows the orignal stream and lists track 40 as DD+; the rb output of course is identical.





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Software players are not the best for testing, so you should burn to BD-RE and test on a standalone.
I'm pretty sure your results will be different, and it will also be a better report for jdobbs, who has stated he is not a fan of software players!
I know, that's why i pointed out that i did NOT burn the material so far but only tested it with a software player.

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I now have burnt Invictus to a BD-RE and the problem has shifted:

- main title can be played fine with both audio streams I wanted (English / German) and also has another descriptive English audio stream

- when selecting the PIP feature there is NO sound at all although the information of the BD Player list the audio stream for the PIP feature:



So I still cannot access the DD+ sound stream of the PIP feature.

Has anyone successfully done this title as full movie so far?

Here are the logs, just in case...

Code:
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[20:47:33] BD Rebuilder v0.34.03 (beta)
  - Source:  INVICTUS
  - Input BD size: 39,59 GB
  - Approximate total content: [03:13:37.847]
  - Target BD size: 22,66 GB
  - Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
  - One Pass ABR Mode enabled
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:47:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [20:47:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
 - [20:47:40] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 5)
 - [20:47:40] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.745 frames
 - [20:47:40] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:51:38] Video Encode complete
 - [20:51:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [20:51:38] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [20:51:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
 - [20:52:00] Reencoding: VID_00009 (2 of 5)
 - [20:52:00] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 9.817 frames
 - [20:52:00] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:58:48] Video Encode complete
 - [20:58:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [20:58:48] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [20:59:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
 - [20:59:23] Reencoding: VID_00017 (3 of 5)
 - [20:59:23] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 40.261 frames
 - [20:59:23] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
 - [21:08:29] Video Encode complete
 - [21:08:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [21:08:29] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [21:08:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
 - [21:09:39] Reencoding: VID_00016 (4 of 5)
 - [21:09:39] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 40.538 frames
 - [21:09:39] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
 - [21:31:19] Video Encode complete
 - [21:31:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [21:31:19] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [21:32:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
 - [21:46:00] Reencoding: VID_00011 (5 of 5)
 - [21:46:00] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
 - [22:21:13] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 192.241 frames
   - Bitrate: 13.580 Kbs
 - [22:21:13] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
 - [00:04:51] Video Encode complete
 - [00:04:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [00:04:51] Multiplexing M2TS
[00:33:02]PHASE ONE complete
[00:33:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [00:33:02] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00:33:20] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:33:20]JOB: INVICTUS finished.
Code:
[Status]
LABEL=INVICTUS
VERSION=v0.34.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42511340390
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42310483968
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.570215807416595
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=5
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00002]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=130039421
NSIZE=173703168
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00009]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01010000000
M2TS_TARGET=375873414
NSIZE=578285568
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00017]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01010000000
M2TS_TARGET=553117727
NSIZE=423032832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00016]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01010000000
M2TS_TARGET=1470575656
NSIZE=2214881280
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00011]
AUDIO=1101000001
PGS=0100100000000000001000000000
M2TS_TARGET=20736203930
RATE=13580
NSIZE=20034785280
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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