Welcome to Doom9's Forum, THE in-place to be for everyone interested in DVD conversion.

Before you start posting please read the forum rules. By posting to this forum you agree to abide by the rules.

 

Go Back   Doom9's Forum > Hardware & Software > Software players

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 9th November 2018, 21:06   #53641  |  Link
Betroz
Is this for real?
 
Betroz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Norway
Posts: 157
Anybody here knows how a RX Vega 64 performs for MadVr use compared to a GTX 1080 card?
__________________
My HTPC : i5 6600K | nVidia GTX 1080Ti | TV : Samsung 75Q9FN QLED
Betroz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th November 2018, 21:20   #53642  |  Link
Ampallang
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 20
As far as I heard they are both equal. only nvidia can't do 10bit output and the vega needs more power.
Ampallang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th November 2018, 11:53   #53643  |  Link
sat4all
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 58
@madshi

I know you are busy with the HDR tone mapping algo work, but would you please consider moving GPU hard coded bars detection a little up in your to do list. Copy-back is really inefficient with UHD let alone when we add the tone mapping algos.

Thanks & Kind Regards
__________________
ZOTAC MAGNUS EN1060K: Win 10 x64 + Kodi DSPlayer x64
LG OLED65C8 / Denon AVR-X3200W / KEF E305+ONKYO SKH-410 / Synology DS2415+ / Logitech Harmony 950
sat4all is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th November 2018, 14:21   #53644  |  Link
Ampallang
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 20
Great picture looks nice with the 3d luts.but the picture had more punch in highlights with the tonemapping shader math so far. But the colors Looks amazing. Have to test further.
Ampallang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th November 2018, 16:25   #53645  |  Link
mytbyte
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 198
@ampallang: did you try tweaking EOTF Nits settings in Lightspace's Convert color space dialog? I'm testing Lightspace with DPS licence but don't seem to be able to export the LUT for MadVR so can't give you any more ideas.
mytbyte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2018, 06:04   #53646  |  Link
austinminton
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by jespermart View Post
I have a problem with my new rtx 2080 ti and madVR that I use with kodi and mpc-be player with lav filters 73.1 When I play primarily 4k movies, I get stuttering when using d3d11 native or copyback but much less stuttering with dxva native or
dxva copyback but still stuttering, have any others with the new 2080 card experienced the same? with my old gtx 1080 i didn't have any stuttering at all no matter if i used d3d11 or dxva and my sttings in madVR are the same, surely the new 2080 schould be able to use the same settings in madVR
Just got my asus strix 2080 ti and I am experiencing the same stuttering issues. Games are working fine. Looking at gpu clocks the gpu is not stressed at all while playing madvr. Power is set to adaptive. I have even tried default madvr settings with no image upscaling but still the same issue. Latest drivers. Any suggestions please?

Everything was fine with the 1080 that I swapped out.

Edit: No issues with evr.

Last edited by austinminton; 11th November 2018 at 06:25.
austinminton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2018, 10:10   #53647  |  Link
Ampallang
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by mytbyte View Post
@ampallang: did you try tweaking EOTF Nits settings in Lightspace's Convert color space dialog? I'm testing Lightspace with DPS licence but don't seem to be able to export the LUT for MadVR so can't give you any more ideas.
Not jet but will do this soon. Just verify compare the results BTW. The 3 methods 3d lut, pixelshader with and without hdr flag and normal hdr via tone mapping done by tv. Alot of tweaking can still be done I think but nice to know what will be possible and which content works on Lg oled and what didn't looks so great in my eyes.
Ampallang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2018, 12:18   #53648  |  Link
DoXer
Registered User
 
DoXer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 3
Hi,
after some tests with AMD RX560 now I'm testing with Nvidia 2070.

I follow a guide from hifi-forum.de. http://www.partyfotos.de/madvr/settings/

In this guide is a screenshot from madVR 0.92.11. I' have installed madVR 0.92.17.
In the HDR-settings of madVR 0.92.17 for my device I have no "Convert HDR to SDR by using pixel shader math" and "Convert HDR to SDR by using pixel 3DLUT" .

is this correct? Are these options dropped from the newest version?

__________________
Sony-VW550ES | Yamaha CX-A5100 | Win10 1809 Enterprise | Kodi DS 17.6 | madVR 0.92.17 | Nvidia RTX 2070
DoXer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2018, 14:48   #53649  |  Link
Warner306
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,072
Yes, it is all different, but simplified greatly.
Warner306 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2018, 15:07   #53650  |  Link
austinminton
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by austinminton View Post
Just got my asus strix 2080 ti and I am experiencing the same stuttering issues. Games are working fine. Looking at gpu clocks the gpu is not stressed at all while playing madvr. Power is set to adaptive. I have even tried default madvr settings with no image upscaling but still the same issue. Latest drivers. Any suggestions please?

Everything was fine with the 1080 that I swapped out.

Edit: No issues with evr.
After spending about 8 hours trying to debug this I have finally figured out the problem. While playing a video on my TV (connected via HDMI), I get a lot of CPU usage with no load on the GPU. LAV video shows <none> in the active hardware decoder. If I play the video on my PC monitor I get RTX 2080 ti as the video decoder and very little load on the CPU. I have tried DDU + reinstall drivers with no success. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I am practically at my wits end trying to figure this out. Thanks in advance.
austinminton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2018, 15:19   #53651  |  Link
el Filou
Registered User
 
el Filou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 471
Is your TV connected to the iGPU and the monitor to the discrete NVIDIA?
__________________
HTPC: W10 1809, E7400, 1050 Ti, DVB-C, Denon 2310, Panasonic GT60 | Desktop: W10 1809, 4690K, HD 7870, Dell U2713HM | MediaPortal 1/MPC-HC, LAV Filters, ReClock, madVR
el Filou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2018, 15:28   #53652  |  Link
austinminton
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 70
Both connected to the NVIDIA.
austinminton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2018, 18:04   #53653  |  Link
el Filou
Registered User
 
el Filou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 471
Did you try switching between the various DXVA/D3D11 options and see if some of them give a different result?
Is the monitor set as the first screen in the dual display setup?
__________________
HTPC: W10 1809, E7400, 1050 Ti, DVB-C, Denon 2310, Panasonic GT60 | Desktop: W10 1809, 4690K, HD 7870, Dell U2713HM | MediaPortal 1/MPC-HC, LAV Filters, ReClock, madVR
el Filou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2018, 20:15   #53654  |  Link
ryrynz
Registered User
 
ryrynz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,149
Why not just disable the iGPU in the BIOS?
ryrynz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2018, 01:07   #53655  |  Link
austinminton
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 70
I went for the nuclear option of installing a fresh copy of windows on a new partition. Now I have hardware acceleration on both my PC monitor and TV. The GPU gets load when madvr is running on the TV as well. But the stuttering issue still persists. I have tried making the TV my main monitor. I have also removed my PC screen with my TV as the only monitor. Rendering times are well within limits at about 20ms with NGU high for scaling and chroma. On windows 1803 with latest nvidia drivers 416.81 and Lav on 0.73.1. madvr on 0.92.17. This stuttering is very similar to what another user mentioned earlier which I quoted above.

Edit: If I use FSE my stuttering issue is solved too. Thanks everyone who took the time to reply to my issues.

Last edited by austinminton; 12th November 2018 at 03:48.
austinminton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2018, 15:31   #53656  |  Link
Warner306
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,072
Does the problem go away when using lower values of NGU or something like Jinc or super-xbr?
Warner306 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th November 2018, 19:30   #53657  |  Link
Grahlwur
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 1
Swap eye when watching 3D in 2D?

Is it possible to select which angle/eye is viewed when watching a 3D-bluray in 2D? It seems to default to the "first" eye, but I can't find a way to change to the "second" eye.
I tried playing around a bit in madVR settings under devices -> <device> -> properties and rendering -> stereo 3d, but I can't seem to find a way to accomplish this.
No matter which settings I use in madVR, LAV Video Decoder says "Active Decover: msdk mvc", which makes me think it's possible to write a function to for example enable the "swap left / right eye"-checkbox for "3D format: none" to accomplish this?

When watching 3D encoded as SBS, I can select eye pretty easily by using Pan & Scan in MPC-HC to zoom in/crop to see only the eye I want. However, this does not work with a proper 3D-bluray since the Pan & Scan is happening before madVR does its magic. Meaning I just end up with SBS with zoomed in picture on both sides.

I realise this is a kinda odd question. What I'm trying to accomplish in the end is to analyse fullscreen screenshots of both left and right eye from 3D bluray both with themselves and the same frame from 2D bluray.

1) Is it already possible to select eye in madVR and I just haven't figured out how to do it?
If no:
2) Is it a feature that can be added without too much hassle?
3) Anyone happen to know if this is possible somehow in MPC-HC itself with LAV and madVR?

Also, thanks for an awesome renderer!

Regards
Grahlwur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th November 2018, 02:40   #53658  |  Link
wnholt01
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by austinminton View Post
Just got my asus strix 2080 ti and I am experiencing the same stuttering issues. Games are working fine. Looking at gpu clocks the gpu is not stressed at all while playing madvr. Power is set to adaptive. I have even tried default madvr settings with no image upscaling but still the same issue. Latest drivers. Any suggestions please?

Everything was fine with the 1080 that I swapped out.

Edit: No issues with evr.
Yes, I am using 2080 and get stuttering also even through CPU/GPU utilization is low and rendering time is low. I was getting no stuttering with 1060. Only thing that prevents stuttering for me is enabling full screen exclusive mode.
wnholt01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th November 2018, 09:32   #53659  |  Link
austinminton
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Warner306 View Post
Does the problem go away when using lower values of NGU or something like Jinc or super-xbr?
No, I get this problem on my 2080 ti even if I match the resolution (for no upscaling). The rendering times are very very low but the problem persists.

The only way to avoid stuttering is to enable FSE.

This was not a problem on my 1080 which was the exact same vendor and model (asus strix).
austinminton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th November 2018, 11:36   #53660  |  Link
Betroz
Is this for real?
 
Betroz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Norway
Posts: 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by austinminton View Post
The only way to avoid stuttering is to enable FSE.

This was not a problem on my 1080 which was the exact same vendor and model (asus strix).
It could be that drivers for the RTX cards are still buggy.
__________________
My HTPC : i5 6600K | nVidia GTX 1080Ti | TV : Samsung 75Q9FN QLED
Betroz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
direct compute, dithering, error diffusion, madvr, ngu, nnedi3, quality, renderer, scaling, uhd upscaling, upsampling

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:01.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.