madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[Damien147]

Originally Posted by huhn

right click on your TV/AVR name -> create profile group with calibration only -> profile 1 "duplicate profile" -> name one SDR one HDR -> click on "Profile Group 1" - add in profile auto select rules:

if (HDR = true) "HDR"
else "SDR"

load the SDR 3D LUT in SDR and the 2.2 in HDR.

Thanks for helping me out.Can it be done without using profiles?
In the calibration tab one bt.709 3dlut with bt.1886 for SDR and one bt.2020 3dlut with 2.2 gamma for pixel shaders.Will it be correct like that?

Originally Posted by huhn

BTW. why bt 1886?

From reading around in the past bt.1886 was the suggested if you are watching during the night.I like what I see.

[huhn]

yes but the tone mapping is not doing the conversation in this case. but if you want that sure.

[*MidnightWatcher*]

Originally Posted by jkauff

Try a different key combination. Windows reserves Ctrl+C for the "copy" part of cut, copy, paste operations. You can't override that.

@huhn or @jkauff Ok tried a different key combination (Ctrl+T) and I can toggle now, but it only switches between two profiles and not others. What else should I put in the "profile auto select rules". Here is what I have currently to automatically use Soulnight's Mirror by default for 4K material:

if (srcWidth > 1921) "Soulnight's Mirror"

[huhn]

i don't know how many profiles you have wand here they differ and when you want to sue them.

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by *MidnightWatcher*

Ok tried a different key combination (Ctrl+T) and I can toggle now, but it only switches between two profiles and not others. What else should I put in the "profile auto select rules".

You have to get the logic correct. If you want it to use a specific profile you need the logic to evaluate as false for all of the if statements before the one you want to activate.

[*MidnightWatcher*]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

You have to get the logic correct. If you want it to use a specific profile you need the logic to evaluate as false for all of the if statements before the one you want to activate.

What I'm trying to do is use Soulnight's Mirror by default but have the ability to toggle through a few other options I've created using Ctrl-T (instead of having to assign a separate shortcut for each one):

Soulnight's Mirror (Default)
Manni's L80
Log Conservative (Neo-XP)
Disabled

[Asmodian]

Just place it as the top profile and don't have any rules setup.

[*MidnightWatcher*]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

Just place it as the top profile and don't have any rules setup.

Tried that, doesn't toggle through them.

[Asmodian]

It does when I do it? I set the profile shortcut to Ctrl+Alt+F and it cycles though all the available profiles, and auto.

[mrbinky]

I am building a zen 3 system, and planning on getting either a Radeon RX 6800 XT or a Nvidia RTX 3080.

Will Madvr gain any performance benefit from direct memory in the Radeon GPU, or should I just stick with Nvidia (I've read here that Nvidia is better for Madvr, all else being equal?)

[ryrynz]

There would be a benefit, how much remains to be seen. We'll be awaiting results from the kind person who tests and reports on it.

[huhn]

in the past memory was "never" interesting for madVR.

[*MidnightWatcher*]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

It does when I do it? I set the profile shortcut to Ctrl+Alt+F and it cycles though all the available profiles, and auto.

I'm using KODI 17.7 DSPlayer on my HTPC in the theater and can't get this to work unfortunately. Are you using MPC-HC / BE?

[Asmodian]

I am actually using Zoom Player.

The best player.

[tp4tissue]

Does NE1 know if Madvr's Dithering works a the subpixel lvl to require RGB pixel layout.

[tp4tissue]

Originally Posted by mrbinky

Will Madvr gain any performance benefit from direct memory in the Radeon GPU, or should I just stick with Nvidia (I've read here that Nvidia is better for Madvr, all else being equal?)

That's the wrong question, the right question is will Madshi SUPPORT the latest cards.

He is the maker.

The element of our salvation.

[tp4tissue]

Originally Posted by stefanelli73

So basically with AMD cards using Madvr tone mapping, I will always see with BT.709 color space, despite having loaded a 3dlut in SDR DCI-P3 is that you saying?

The color space of the TV can operate independently of Madvr.

If you set your TV to native, it will use its full gamut. Madvr can then accept a map of that from the colorimeter and adjust accordingly.

OR , Madvr can send the color's native values in 10bit limited range, and you'd rely on your TV to be in-tune.

The problem is, UNLESS your TV has a custom 3dlut feature, It's ALSO BLIND to its own output. You would need to use either a Lut-box, OR pay for the Calman license if your TV supports their tools.


The Cheapest way to get the colors tuned is to use madvr's 3dlut function for the whole pipe.

[Asmodian]

It does not. I am not sure how colored noise interacts with subpixel structure but even then madVR is not trying to preserve sharpness or something using subpixel rendering.

You can also easily check by setting the output bitdepth to 1 or 2.

[tp4tissue]

Originally Posted by mclingo

AMD 444 FULL RGB - MADVR 0-255 - LG OLED HIGH - gives corrects results
AMD 444 FULL RGB - MADVR 0-255 - LG OLED LOW - gives crushed results

AMD 444 FULL RGB - MADVR 16-235 - LG OLED HIGH - gives correct results
AMD 444 FULL RGB - MADVR 16-235 - LG OLED LOW - gives crushed results

can anyone make sense of this?

@ Mclingo, buy a colorimeter. You won't have to ask us, you'll know, because you can measure it.

Especially with Oled, eyeballing these things is hard unless you already own a colorimeter and know exactly what to look for.

Using those gamma charts is unreliable, because alot of settings can get in the way unless you have a measurement tool.

[tp4tissue]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

It does not. I am not sure how colored noise interacts with subpixel structure but even then madVR is not trying to preserve sharpness or something using subpixel rendering.

You can also easily check by setting the output bitdepth to 1 or 2.

Nice, kewl, thx Asmodian.