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5th April 2013, 14:50 | #16881 | Link | |
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---------------------- [04/04/13] BD Rebuilder v0.43.06 (beta) [19:16:42] Source: THE_FIGHTER_00000 - Input BD size: 29.13 GB - Approximate total content: [01:55:38.514] - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601] - MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled - SHUTDOWN at completion enabled - Mode: MP4 Container, 1920x1080, Auto-AAC - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow - Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640 [19:16:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [19:16:42] Processing: VID_00414 (1 of 1) - [19:16:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00414] - [19:22:01] Reencoding video [VID_00414] - Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued... - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 166,358 frames - [20:59:46] Reencoding: VID_00414, Pass 1 of 1 - [23:33:22] Video Encode complete - [23:33:22] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AAC... [23:46:16]PHASE ONE complete [23:46:16]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started - [23:46:16] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure [23:48:13] - Encode and Rebuild complete - Computer SHUTDOWN initiated. |
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At 38:35 they are speaking a foreign language. It starts with a man saying "You know how this works?" then I think he says "God willing we won't have to use it". In another forum somebody told me that BDclown can find forced subs that are just marked as "forced" in the main subtitle track. They then sent me this link. http://scottjohnson.org/wiki/Dune/Forced_subtitles_with_ClownBD I'm not sure how to totally run it as I'm still testing, but when I look at the log it did find 15 forced subtitles in the 2nd english subtitle pgs. Thanks Phil Last edited by plouie10; 6th April 2013 at 06:59. |
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As I've sad before, it's very easy to scan the SUP file... but it takes time and I don't want to add any more time to the process. BD-RB keeps the subs intact that you keep, and the flags for forcing are right there in the stream. So the question would be "how did they go away?" if you kept the original PGS stream. [Edit] I just played back that section. Although they were speaking Arabic -- there were no forced subtitles at that point on my movie-only backup when I play it back using PowerDVD. Unfortunately, though... there also weren't any displayed on the original either. [Edit] Ok... I just scanned the 3 PGS streams, and the second stream (PID 4609) does indeed have 15 subtitles that are flagged as forced. So the question now is: Why isn't PowerDVD displaying them? [Edit] It appears to be a bug in PowerDVD. I just selected that sub and then turned it off as a test, from that point on the forced subs started working in both my backup and in the original (even though the stream wasn't selected). That's how it is supposed to work. Next I will burn the backup and test it on my Samsung standalone. Last edited by jdobbs; 6th April 2013 at 14:20. |
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6th April 2013, 15:13 | #16888 | Link | |
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I'm still a bit confused by BD subtitles. But it's not really a bug so I'll start a dedicated thread. |
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No disrespect intended. I was only pointing towards another product as a way of finding the flagged forced subs. I appreciate your efforts. Thanks |
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Anyway, back on topic. I burned my movie-only backup of "Zero Dark Thirty" and the forced subtitles aren't showing on my standalone. I'm sure this was working fine in the past, so I need to dig around and find out what's going on. |
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6th April 2013, 19:24 | #16891 | Link |
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Yes, I had the same issue and had to turn on all (of the annoying) subtitles to understand some of the extended foreign language scenes. I thought I had done something wrong so I didn't post at the time. Just verifying what you found.
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I looked at the standard, and it is very clear, with no ambiguities whatsoever, that the player should show the forced subs when forced_on_flag is set, even if no subtitle is selected. I could fairly easily pull the individual forced subtitles into a SUP of their own and turn that one on... but that's NOT how it's supposed to work. Last edited by jdobbs; 6th April 2013 at 23:06. |
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Again for subtitles.
Latest BDs have 2 subtitle tracks. One is normal, Second is forced one (on original BD). On this second subtitle track there are only a few subs (e.g. 10 in the whole movie as there are the forced ones). But when i rip both (Main movie extraction) no subs are forced! (So i don't see Subtitle 2 forced, only when i select it manually) On original BD automatically Subtitle 2 are displayed. |
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As I said earlier, that second stream has about 15 individual subtitle lines of text (a subset of many lines in that PGS stream) that are properly set to be forced in the backup. That's easy to check, just demux them from the movie-only output and scan them. I'm not sure why they aren't always working... but right now I have to suspect TSMUXER, since it is the only software that is manipulating the streams (demuxing and muxing). If you turn on subtitle stream #2, you would get ALL the subtitles, not just he 15 that are flagged.
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Maybe there is some misunderstanding.
e.g. Premium Rush or Threesome -> 2 German subtitle tracks. First -> Standard no forced flag Second -> lets assume 15 subtitles (in total) also no forced flag BUT these are displayed during normal playback on original BD (no subtitles set to on). -> So these are also somehow forced |
7th April 2013, 18:51 | #16898 | Link |
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All of a sudden DB-RB refuses to start. I get:
System Error &H80004023 (-2147467229). I am on WIN7 64bit. Inspect.exe reports all ok but - WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly Re-installing DB-RB, ffdshow, haali and system restart does not help. Any suggestions? |
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I'm still getting the "Warning: Framerate [23,976fps] not BD compliant" error on 0.43.06 when trying to Import .M2TS and output into MKV.
[23:16:14] Importing M2TS: 00014 - Preparing M2TS for processing... - Collecting audio/video streams from source... - Warning: Framerate [23,976fps] not BD compliant. - Building pseudo-BD source structure... [23:18:23] Video import completed successfully. BUT BD-RB has no problem outputting that exact same M2TS into an MKV when the M2TS file is loaded using the "Other Movie-Only Playlist" feature. Unfortunately not all M2TS files can be processed via a playlist. Is it possible this issue could have something to do with how decimal point is handled in different regions, as in comma vs. full stop; 23,976 vs. 23.976? |
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