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Old 20th June 2007, 18:06   #41  |  Link
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Why don't you like DVDAuthor? Better question: why do you prefer Muxman?
Well.. For "us" d2s users theres been a point for a while to avoid dvdauthor and MPlex and use imago or muxman(with muxman as the preferred) instead.

I personally havent noticed any significant stutters or other playback problems with my high bitrate encodes authored with mplex and dvdauthor.
But others seem to have, also afaict muxman is a tad bit faster.

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Next release will have it
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What do you mean? Having the AVS windows opened by default?
No.. i usually use lanczos4 as resizer so id like to have an option to edit the default automatic script so i dont have to edit the script every time i do an encode.
...or better yet, an gui option/dropdown menu to choose between filter configurations in a user editable avs(much like d2s frameserving tab) so the users could add a the resizers and filters they use regularely, that would be real sweet.

By default are closed gops on or off for all encoders?

And thanks much for adding cce!!
I hope its possible to add opv and support for cce 2.5.
Can you give some detail on what high quality/very high quality does for cce atm, 2 or more passes etc.?



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Just noticed, if i dont have a source file loaded and i launch the avs window and untick the automatic script checkbox,
i get a runtime 13 type mismatch error and avstodvd exits.

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Old 21st June 2007, 10:00   #42  |  Link
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Well.. For "us" d2s users theres been a point for a while to avoid dvdauthor and MPlex and use imago or muxman(with muxman as the preferred) instead.

I personally havent noticed any significant stutters or other playback problems with my high bitrate encodes authored with mplex and dvdauthor.
But others seem to have, also afaict muxman is a tad bit faster.
I will take a look

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No.. i usually use lanczos4 as resizer so id like to have an option to edit the default automatic script so i dont have to edit the script every time i do an encode.
...or better yet, an gui option/dropdown menu to choose between filter configurations in a user editable avs(much like d2s frameserving tab) so the users could add a the resizers and filters they use regularely, that would be real sweet.
Maybe I can add a tab in the Options window to personalize AVS defaults.

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By default are closed gops on or off for all encoders?
On

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Can you give some detail on what high quality/very high quality does for cce atm, 2 or more passes etc.?
Below attached the ecl files used in the 2 cases (with A2D default settings).

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Just noticed, if i dont have a source file loaded and i launch the avs window and untick the automatic script checkbox,
i get a runtime 13 type mismatch error and avstodvd exits.
Ops! Fixed!

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Maybe I can add a tab in the Options window to personalize AVS defaults.
Nice, sounds good

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By default are closed gops on or off for all encoders?
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On
Would it be possible to have an option ?

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Below attached the ecl files used in the 2 cases (with A2D default settings)
Im ecl illiterate but ill take a look, thanks. Edit: nothing to it really



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My bad, I had been trying it on a 100mb clip I have, but didn't realise the audio was DTS. Once that had been converted to AC3 and remuxed, AVStoDVD completed the conversion.
The main problem is that MediaInfo (A2D uses that library to identify media types) recognizes correctly DTS tracks only if they are a "standalone" file. If muxed it has some problems.

I will try to find a trick to solve this issue



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Old 23rd June 2007, 09:34   #45  |  Link
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AVStoDVD 1.0.0 beta 5 is available
  • Added AviSynth basic settings preferences
  • Added MPEG2 advanced encoding options
  • Added "No Splash Screen at startup" option
  • Improved support to CCE SP (2.50, 2.66, 2.67, not 2.70)
  • Improved AVS Script handling
  • Improved support of DTS audio tracks
  • A bunch of bugs fixed
  • AVS script improved management

Not yet CCE RoBa support and multiple titles into a single DVD.

I did not have much time do deeply debug the new features.... so I apologize if you find some bugs.

Hope you will try it and give me your impressions.



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Old 23rd June 2007, 20:22   #46  |  Link
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This is simply very very nice, i like it more and more.
Ive tested: small clips both pal and ntsc, mp3 and ac3 source audio.
Cce 2.50 with ecl, QuEnc and HC all available quality profiles, with and without encoding audio and lanczos4 as resizer.

So far so good, nothing to report from me atm other than..
Thanks, and keep up the good work
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Old 29th June 2007, 17:24   #47  |  Link
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AVStoDVD 1.0.0 Final is available
  • A good amount of bugs fixed
  • Improved batch encoding
  • Improved log activity saving

Really no big news... but there were some stuff to fix. Should be a stable release.



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Greetings,

Thankyou for a great product. I am eagerly looking forward to trying it out very soon. Thanks as well for adding CCE support. If you are still seeking more info on how to integrate with the different versions of CCE, jdobbs creator of the wonderfull DVD-RB program seems to have a steady grasp on the subject.

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Have just tried a few clips. They are XviD 25 f/s avi music vids. I set up to use HCenc. All goes well and the quality is very nice. I have checked NTSC and have tried with and without pulldown. When HCenc is running under pulldown it says 'no', even though I've ticked it.

Is there something I'm missing? Should pulldown be used on a 25 f/s source if going to NTSC?

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Old 15th July 2007, 16:17   #50  |  Link
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Have just tried a few clips. They are XviD 25 f/s avi music vids. I set up to use HCenc. All goes well and the quality is very nice. I have checked NTSC and have tried with and without pulldown. When HCenc is running under pulldown it says 'no', even though I've ticked it.

Is there something I'm missing? Should pulldown be used on a 25 f/s source if going to NTSC?

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From HCenc General Info pdf:

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This command sets pulldown flags for 23.976 ? 29.97 pulldown.
Interlaced will be turned off, if your source is interlaced, please de-interlace it first.
If the source isn't 23.976 fps this setting will be ignored.
HCenc Pulldown is not needed when going from 25 to 29.97 fps. Is audio out of sync?



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.... HCenc Pulldown is not needed when going from 25 to 29.97 fps. Is audio out of sync?



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Nope all is fine. I'm try to increase my knowledge/skills and I always see folks going on and on about using Pulldown to get to 29.97fps NTSC rather than ChangeFPS(29.97). On other forums they always rant against apps like Nero because pulldown is not used when going to NTSC. With AVI2DVD a separate Pulldown phase is always used. I prefer your app though (I'm converting XviD 25fps music videos) because I can alter the script and the bitrate and end up with muxed MPEG2, which is all I need. I realize that I can delete ChangeFPS(29.97) from the script and choose Demuxed MPEG streams, run DGPulldown then mux with TMPGenc, but that's a pain.

I asked about pulldown for 25fps sources on another forum and got this response from jdobbs:

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Encode it at 25fps, then use Neuron2's DGPulldown against the output. Up until he wrote that code, I'm not sure anyone else had given much thought to converting that way. It also makes sure your audio stays in sync.
I do like your app alot and realize that the 25fps pulldown thing is an HCenc issue. Unfortunately the pulldown thing still confuses me.

Thanks for the reply and the app.
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I have a very practical attitude: if the output video quality is good (both on PC and TV) and audio is not out of sync, why wondering if pulldown is needed?

I am really not an expert of PAL to NTSC conversion, but, according to HCenc, pulldown is to be used only when going from 23.976 to 29.97 and not from 25 to 29.97.

Maybe some Doom9 NTSC gurus may help us....



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DGPulldown can be used to apply any x->29.97 Pulldown, where x is greater than about 20 and less than 29.97. HC only performs the standard 23.976->29.97 pulldown.
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DGPulldown can be used to apply any x->29.97 Pulldown, where x is greater than about 20 and less than 29.97. HC only performs the standard 23.976->29.97 pulldown.
Thanks Mr_Odwin! One more thing: what are the benefits of pulldown instead of directly changing fps via AviSynth (by ChangeFPS(29.97))?



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The major advantage that jumps to my mind is that the same bitrate is used to encode less frames.
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In conclusion:
  • QuEnc, HCenc and CCE SP can perform a "standard" 23.976 -> 29.97 pulldown (called 3:2 Pulldown).
  • Generic fps increase can be done by using DGPulldown (better quality but slower) or AviSynth's ChangeFPS (lesser quality but faster).
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I realize that I can delete ChangeFPS(29.97) from the script and choose Demuxed MPEG streams, run DGPulldown then mux with TMPGenc, but that's a pain.
To speed up the process (until I will (?) insert DGPulldown step in AVStoDVD) you can set PAL as Video Format, so that you do not have to modify AVS script manually.

And you can use AVStoDVD as a M2V+AC3 muxer too.



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Remember that if a 25->29.97 pulldown is to be performed the video needs to be encoded at the destination NTSC size.
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Remember that if a 25->29.97 pulldown is to be performed the video needs to be encoded at the destination NTSC size.
You're right! NTSC requires 480 pixel vertical resolution.

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Thanks Mrc, until then i'll wait to see...
About your latest questions about CCE support i can suggest you a link of a forum that someone who is developing a program like yours but with much more choices because he's devopping that since 2 yeras ago i guess and he has created a very interesting program so if you would you can take a look and post your questions and doubts about it...
The developer has the nick of Delta and he is usually very helpful...
http://www.avi2iso.com/

Well, yes, almost 2 years for fun

There is currently 2 Portuguese Projects alive : D2MP and AVI2ISO, once there was another called AVIXDVD in which AVI2ISO was based on, but it died. D2MP uses Directshow encoding for audio, much the same as I use that for RMVB or other formats. Mine was mostly stressed on CCE SP2 and fast encoding for movies in Dual Core Systems...but that is something I have to do, directshow MP3 VBR to PCM

The main problem is that I use High Definition matrices which throws qFactor to Higher levels in CCE, if someone uses them in movies more than 1CD. I don't think Roba will fix that because it gives a smaller qfactor in that matrices aside my own simulation code

Another problem is using VB.NET and C#, a miscellaneous of both, which needs Framework 2.0

I wish you good luck, MrC

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