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Old 14th January 2018, 22:28   #3861  |  Link
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I'm seeing some very strong halos using QTGMC 3.357 with Avisynth+ r2580-MT that's not in avs+ 2.6.0.5 or regular avs 2.6.
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I'm seeing some very strong halos using QTGMC 3.357 with Avisynth+ r2580-MT that's not in avs+ 2.6.0.5 or regular avs 2.6.
avs+ 2.6.0.5 ?
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Old 15th January 2018, 00:16   #3863  |  Link
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On a hunch, try the latest MaskTools. (I've seen artifacts with 3.357 that seem to be gone now)
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since there are many plugins dll's that didn't port to x64 including the closed source plugins, is there some ways to make the 32 bit one work in 64 processes? I note this http://www.dllwrapper.com/ but couldn't build wrapped dll successfully, and even if I did, it will work one day only (need to buy it)
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Then I guess you must encode 4k or 1080 bluray videos then. Is there a way for the 32bit plugins work with the x64 avisynth+? Or a way to make them backward compatible?
let's back to this, I note that squid_80 did build some close source plugins for x64 back then https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...81#post1104481

since there are some doom9 members that has Intel's compiler like Groucho2004, I think they can did build some too at least for many plugins that needed
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I'm seeing some very strong halos using QTGMC 3.357 with Avisynth+ r2580-MT that's not in avs+ 2.6.0.5 or regular avs 2.6.
Seeing this too.. Same plugins versions.
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Old 18th January 2018, 08:44   #3866  |  Link
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A screenshot and an AVSMeter report about available plugins may be helpful. Guessing without facts is so uncertain. Just imagine several plugins providing functions with the same name (like RemoveGrain + RGTools), and an older plugin being preferred over a newer one.
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Old 18th January 2018, 14:40   #3867  |  Link
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Did StackHorizontal/StackVertical change in AVS+? Using this simple script, the shorter clip still continues for whatever reason:

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left = AVISource("test1.avi", pixel_type="YUY2").trim(2000, 3000)
right = AVISource("test1.avi", pixel_type="YUY2").trim(3000, 3500)
StackHorizontal(left, right)
test1.avi is over 5000 frames long.
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Old 18th January 2018, 16:21   #3868  |  Link
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AviSynth Wiki: Filters with multiple input clips

StackHorizontal, StackVertical: Framecount – longest clip: the last frame(s) of the shorter clip(s) are repeated until the end

Is it different for AviSynth+ that the shorter clip keeps playing, instead of freezing its last frame?
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Old 18th January 2018, 18:38   #3869  |  Link
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AviSynth Wiki: Filters with multiple input clips

StackHorizontal, StackVertical: Framecount – longest clip: the last frame(s) of the shorter clip(s) are repeated until the end

Is it different for AviSynth+ that the shorter clip keeps playing, instead of freezing its last frame?
left is 1000 frames, right is 500 frames long.
The resulting clip length is the maximum of the input clip lengths.
The question: what happens when in the above samples Trim(3000,3500) is requested with frame numbers over 500?

Trim (at least in Avs+) does not check the requested frame number, it passes over the task to its child filter:
https://github.com/pinterf/AviSynthP.../edit.cpp#L258

The question that this is a planned behaviour or not?
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Old 18th January 2018, 18:43   #3870  |  Link
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The question that this is a planned behaviour or not?
I like it, whether it's planned or not. It's something I was thinking of suggesting, but is probably too niche and too open-ended a task to properly implement - for clips to keep track of their true starts and ends, so that you can untrim. It would make things like dissolves easier (for me, anyway) - just trim the to the right lengths, and dissolve will extend them as much as needed to keep the result the same length as a plain splice no matter what length dissolve is used.
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Old 19th January 2018, 00:24   #3871  |  Link
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AviSynth Wiki: Filters with multiple input clips

StackHorizontal, StackVertical: Framecount – longest clip: the last frame(s) of the shorter clip(s) are repeated until the end

Is it different for AviSynth+ that the shorter clip keeps playing, instead of freezing its last frame?
Yep, this is what is happening. What is weird is, my friend got it that it will keep playing on the first StackHorizontal but the 2nd one will freeze the frame. In fact all StackHorizontals after his first one does freeze the frame. I have not figured out a simple script to show this behavior yet, but I'm working on it.

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If you don't want repeating frames, you need to trim the resulting clip:
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StackHorizontal(A, B, C)
Trim(0, Min(A.FrameCount, B.FrameCount, C.FrameCount))
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If you don't want repeating frames, you need to trim the resulting clip:
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StackHorizontal(A, B, C)
Trim(0, Min(A.FrameCount, B.FrameCount, C.FrameCount))
Would this be better

Code:
StackHorizontal(A, B, C)
Trim(0, - Min(A.FrameCount, B.FrameCount, C.FrameCount))
#       ^
ie minus, meaning number of frames, rather than end at minimum end frame + 1
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Old 19th January 2018, 01:31   #3874  |  Link
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Yup, that would be better.
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Old 19th January 2018, 01:48   #3875  |  Link
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If you don't want repeating frames, you need to trim the resulting clip:
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StackHorizontal(A, B, C)
Trim(0, Min(A.FrameCount, B.FrameCount, C.FrameCount))
Thanks for your help, but what my friend and I want is actually to keep the longer length and freeze the shorter clip. You see, it helps in comparison videos. The workaround is to use FreezeFrame, but it be nice if we didn't need to use that.
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Yep, that is a bug, B not truncated. (ornamental trim EndFrame/Framecount/Length, leastwise when in stack)

Code:
A=Colorbars.KillAudio.Trim(0,-10).ShowFrameNumber   # 10 frames
B=A.Trim(0,-1)                                      # 1 Frame

StackHorizontal(A,B)                                # Comment one of these out
#Stackvertical(A,B)
EDIT: This gives an even more interesting result (Start trimmed but end not).
Code:
B=A.Trim(5,-1)                                      # 1 Frame
EDIT: Makes no difference if specifying End Frame (+ve end) or FrameCount (-ve end), or length (Length=n).

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Trim (at least in Avs+) does not check the requested frame number, it passes over the task to its child filter:
In this case Trim() is the child/source filter that StackXXX expects to check for valid frames.
Current standard AVS method must remain the default, if changing as per DavidHorman, then would require additional
args to both StackXXX and trim, methinks (or passed by StackXXX to trim child).

EDIT: It always confused me as to why child clip is source to a filter, I'm assuming that child filter is also the source filter to current filter.
[It always seemed a bit more sensible to me if it were the other way around].

EDIT: OK, think I figured it out, child is the child of the previous filter, but to current filter it is the parent, or maybe not, who knows.
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Old 19th January 2018, 03:22   #3877  |  Link
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Here is something interesting, if you add Info() to the trim on B, it works fine:

Code:
A=Colorbars.KillAudio.Trim(0,-10).ShowFrameNumber   # 10 frames
B=A.Trim(0,-1).Info()                               # 1 Frame

StackHorizontal(A,B)                                # Comment one of these out
#Stackvertical(A,B)
Edit: Even replacing Info() with AddBorders(0,0,0,0) would fix it.

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Obviously, there Info is checking valid range for end frame [vi.num_frames], and doing Trim's job for it.

Trim must currently set vi.num_frames in its result clip, but then ignore it.
It always has to be the filter nearer to source that judges what range is valid, with ultimate responibilty being with the
source fliter itself (eg AviSource or Colorbars), but in this case trim assumes (or should assume) that resonsibility for all following
filters, quite a lot of filters (all of mine, unless bugged), check for valid frame as provided in vi.num_frames by its source
filter. If no filters check (and some dont) for valid frame, then source (eg AviSource) must do it for them, trim must take on that
role if added to filter chain, indeed, it is its raison d'ętre.

If some other functionality added, then probably best if a totally new filtername is chosen, DavidHormam_Trim(), or something
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If some other functionality added, then probably best if a totally new filtername is chosen, DavidHormam_Trim(), or something
Agreed, or even better, added new parameter in the last of parameters list with Default vale that not break old behavior
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If some other functionality added, then probably best if a totally new filtername is chosen, DavidHormam_Trim(), or something
That sounds like a fantastic idea. I also propose that davidhorman_trim(100,200) would return frames 100-199 (100 frames) just to confuse people even further.

(I do think it makes more sense but I'm not such an optimist that I'd expect it to change now)
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