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16th May 2018, 08:06 | #50843 | Link |
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I recently got a 1050 Ti, I will attempt to make a profile tuned for it to pair with my current profiles for a 1080 Ti.
But it will be a few days.
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16th May 2018, 10:32 | #50846 | Link | |
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576p: NGU Sharp, luma doubling very high, chroma very high + upscaling Jinc, downscaling Lanczos4 720p: NGU Sharp, luma doubling high, chroma high + upscaling Jinc, downscaling SSIM2D100 2160p: scale chroma separately, downscaling SSIM2D100, convert HDR using shader math complex scientific RGB clip measure each frame's peak luminance I'm using ReconSoft for chroma upsampling on all profiles, but you should choose the one you prefer. I'm not using any image enhancements options but you should have some GPU power left if needed. All in all I'm very happy with the 1050 Ti on a 1080 display. Hope this helps but I'm not pretending to be a reference user.
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16th May 2018, 11:03 | #50847 | Link |
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I have a 1050 Ti and well...
It is all very subjective for me, I think in hindsight if it was not for the HDR -> SDR Conversion to view 4K to 1080p I struggle to tell the difference, now that I have tried various concoctions and settings reading multiple guides and what people have in their settings. I also don't understand how people can say "I do not need 4k sources on my 4k display as it makes 1080p so good!, this to me is not possible as you cannot add detail to a source, yes you may tweak an image sharpness etc, but not add anything to it as such. I can hardly talk as I am using 4k a lot on 1080p and all the extra resources that uses including hard drive space, so what do I know. It is also quite hard to find settings for 4K to 1080p as well, if there is that much extra detail (maybe) is there any settings that make any difference ?, how do you know what HDR tweaks to tweak if you do not have HDR on your TV. I also find if I do not have scale chroma separately in the trade quality for performance, then I have a huge performance hit, what is the downside of this ? I did chase the 23.976 for a while, and best thing I found was to roll back to 390.77 drivers, setup a custom res in Nvidia Control Panel, change 24 in refresh rate, then select Timing, select GTF to get those settings, then select Manual so you can edit them, and change the lower setting of 24 to 23.976. It is as near as dammit and floats between 23.9759 to 23.9762 or something, think I had it even closer at one point, but using Insider builds with Win 10 things change all the time as you can imagine. I gave the MadVR custom settings a shot but found either they would not take, gave me a fuzzy picture or generally was a waste of time messing about with, but ultimately I started thinking Ive managed for years without worrying about 23.976 dead with Kodi using the standard Video player and never noticed any issues, so step away from the fixation I said and watch some films. I started using the test MadVR that was going about, and then .14 when I found out there had been two updates inbetween, but I could be wrong but I have never seen any info on what to chose with all the new HDR to SDR settings and what they do ?. It is also hard to find what people use fro NIT settings as well. Also how the heck do you stop MadVR settings from being on the top of everything all the time ? or am I thick ?. |
16th May 2018, 14:59 | #50848 | Link | |
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I've also found that while the screen / mouse cursor is flashing right before driver crash if I : 1) drag the mouse to the bottom of the screen (bringing up the seek bar),2) press the Windows key, 3) have an on screen settings popup box (like madVR settings) forcing d3d9 windowed mode video appears and plays, and the GPU doesn't crash while any of those things are active on screen. In summary (after the Windows update auto applied 5/13/18): MPC-HC + madVR + LAV + XySubfilter using Nvidia 680M= fails to play full screen MPC-HC + madVR + LAV + XySubfilter using Intel HD 4000 = plays in fullscreen successfully MPC-HC + EVR Custom+ LAV + XySubfilter using Nvidia 680M = plays in fullscreen successfully Edit: by going into madVR settings -> rendering -> windowed mode and unchecking "present several frames in advance" making the videos run in D3D9 windowed (old path) I am able to play the videos at full screen.
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16th May 2018, 17:03 | #50849 | Link |
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If you're watching mostly 1080p at 1080p, then this is basically passthrough. If comparing to Kodi VideoPlayer, it simply renders pixels less faithfully. If you switch back and forth long enough, you will notice very small differences in color and occasional noise in VideoPlayer, but it is not a major change. madVR should also be slightly sharper, but this can be difficult to detect. But that's how the content was mastered. If you want it to be sharper, sharpen the image. If you want less noise, use artifact removal. But, mostly, the pixels are being rendered faithfully without adding any artificial detail.
If upscaling 1080p to 4K, you can indeed add detail to the image. Image upscaling will approximate what a low resolution image would look like if it was a high resolution image. There are four times as many pixels in a 1080p source upscaled to 4K. Unless you use Nearest Neighbor for upscaling, those new pixels will add detail to the image that was not there previously. If you scale chroma separately, the chroma layer will be slightly lower quality. This is not overly important when doing a large downscale, so you can check this if you need to save resources. The only thing important is the quality of image downscaling. I would recommend using SSIM 1D 100%. If you select this, you may be able to uncheck the chroma quality checkbox with your graphics card. As for HDR -> SDR conversion, it is completely up to experimentation. There are many settings because it is a work-in-progress. The setting "dumb - convert gamut late" is popular, while there doesn't seem to be consensus on the best scientific method. The target nits is like a brightness adjustment, and you can use any value you want, as long as the image looks good to your eyes. There is no scientifically accurate value. Higher target nits will crush the low end in attempt to increase the detail of the specular highlights at the top end, but this can lead to black crush at high enough values. I don't know what you mean by having madVR settings on top of everything all of the time. Just close it if it is stealing focus from other windows.
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madshi would have to comment on your issue given the specific nature of your problem and the apparent solution, but he could be at the mercy of the driver.
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@Warner306 has detailed set up guides and sample profiles for the GTX 1050 & 1080. At the very least these are brilliant starting points. https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php...974#pid2238974 |
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It's not that this is against existent guides but who really reads them, especially beginners are really fast pissed off and it anyway ends up testing everything as per own needs. I also doubt that such profiles wasting much bandwidth. Just PM me and I see what I can do. Edit: https://github.com/CHEF-KOCH/madVR-profiles You can submit your profile/settings via Pull Request or Issue Ticket. Last edited by CHEF-KOCH; 16th May 2018 at 19:09. |
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I already use soften edges and grain with NGU sharp. Are you saying you no longer NGU sharp for chroma? |
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16th May 2018, 19:00 | #50856 | Link |
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settings.bin's for common database
Here is my settings.bin for a GTX960 4GB using 4k and 3D.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xuhr0te0k...tings.zip?dl=0
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16th May 2018, 19:43 | #50857 | Link |
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I'm interested to hear if anyone is successfully using a 3D LUT for HDR in their current setup?
At present I can only get HDR looking right if I use passthrough. If I create a LUT using MadVRTPG and DisplayCal using the MadVR HDR template the resulting image is a total mess with highlights going red. |
16th May 2018, 21:15 | #50858 | Link |
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I like NGU AA high as my favorite chroma upscaler, with medium a close second.
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Yes, I have had good results with an HDR 3DLUT. I have to change my TV's mode off of PC though, so I get better gamut coverage. In PC mode I get clipping of the gamut, resulting in odd off-magenta banding in highlights.
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