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12th November 2017, 16:14 | #26701 | Link |
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It will force streams with IGS be reencoded. It just adds time since TSMUXER doesn't support IGS and BD-RB will have to do some magic to get it muxed. IGS is much more typical in menus than regular video, where they are generally small and BD-RB prefers to leave them intact.
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Wow. Have any of you ever tried encoding 2160p video to the 10 bit blu-ray standard with X265? I'm getting 1.22 frames per second. I'm close to making BD-RB work for UHD-BD -- but I don't know if it is worth it when it might take 39 hours for a single pass to encode a two hour movie.
This is on an 8 core AMD FX-8350 running at over 4Ghz. Does anyone else see better results? Last edited by jdobbs; 16th November 2017 at 16:18. |
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jdobbs, I've encountered something I've never seen before, doing Cars 3 the resultant disk is for lack of a better word choppy. It's like a constant consistent stutter of the video ? I thought it might be x264 related so I redid it using FRIM and it's the same result. Then I thought maybe it was some kind of motion processing going on in the TV so I redid basically a direct copy of the original disk to a double layer BD RE and that copy behaved correctly exactly like the original. Also another oddity is that even though I tried to force a no re encode situation by making the target larger than the source it still re encoded things?
Logs attached, is there something I'm missing on getting a playable backup? |
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@jdobbs i think the problem here will be your CPU/system A quick google shows that CPU was released in 2012 and x265 was only announced! in 2013 (let alone officially released). The cpu likely just doesn't support it officially. Current generation CPU's and GPU's DO however support it and i doubt those will be 1FPS since they are capable of uhd playback
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Yet the chart shows an FX-8320 running at 12.1fps -- about 10 times faster that I'm getting. The FX-8320 is slower than my processor in every benchmark I can find. I'm guessing these times aren't using the settings required for UHD-BD or on an 2160p source. If that's the case -- none of these look like they would be up to the task. Last edited by jdobbs; 16th November 2017 at 19:32. |
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If you thought a little bit longer then you would discover that it says FHD aka 1920x1080! Like I said before x265 loves CPUs with real AVX2 (2xFMAC256).
Besides You must have already forgotten times when encoding with x264 was also very painfully slow on 2 core cpus (Core 2 Duo@1.8GHz). People were also waiting a day or two to encode single movie with some decent quality settings. AMD FX is obsolete. IPC for example is pathetic.
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This processor can reencode an entire Blu-Ray disc in under two hours with X264. It's a long way from "obsolete". It does 1080p (FHD) output using X265 at over 17fps (putting it at the top of your first chart). But, hey, let's not let things like FACTS clutter up the conversation.
So, just guessing, an i9 processor might get about 10fps on a UHD-HD 2160p encode. That would translate to about 4.75 hours for a two hour movie (per pass) -- and that's with an $1100 processor (and probably a $4000 computer)! A full backup would likely be twice that long. The bottom line is that if I add UHD-BD backup capability to BD-RB, everybody is going to complain like hell no matter what processor they have. So I'm reconsidering whether it's worth the remaining effort. At most, for a typical user, it might only be useful for removing or modifying audio tracks to make it fit on a standard blu-ray without reencoding the video. The testing was with --preset medium. I'll have to see what improvements I get with a lower preset. Last edited by jdobbs; 16th November 2017 at 23:54. |
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I'd guess that 90% of the using audience is using processors lower than or slightly better than mine. $4000 computers are for the rich (which I'm not). Anyway, I tested it with --preset superfast and it runs at about 8.5fps, so I can at least test it without having to spend weeks encoding. I'll just keep working on it for now.
Does anyone out there have a reliable command line for X265 that always works for UHD-BD? And please don't suggest using just "--uhd-bd" -- as it results in a blank picture on my Sony UBP-X800 player after being muxed correctly (the muxing works with an original UHD-BD .hevc stream). Last edited by jdobbs; 16th November 2017 at 20:46. |
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Is there any reason I can't use x265 ver 2.4 with BD-RB? I like the new enhancement "Lambda tables for 8, 10, and 12-bit encoding revised, resulting in significant enhancement to subjective visual quality.".
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If you post your settings I can try on my system Code:
avs2pipemod\avs2pipemod64.exe" -y4mp W:\TEMP\Philips_Ultra-HD_Beach_Life_supershop-demo-3_temp\Philips_Ultra-HD_Beach_Life_supershop-demo-3.avs | "C:\Program Files (Portable)\StaxRip\Apps\x265\x265.exe" --crf 18 --profile main10 --output-depth 10 --videoformat component --transfer smpte2084 --range full --hdr --frames 3146 --y4m --output W:\TEMP\Philips_Ultra-HD_Beach_Life_supershop-demo-3_temp\Philips_Ultra-HD_Beach_Life_supershop-demo-3_out.hevc Last edited by gonca; 17th November 2017 at 01:16. |
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I get around 4fps on my Intel i7 with x265 - and I don't care about speed, therefore I really hope you don't decide to drop UHD support, @jdobbs. And speeds will get better with future processors anyway
Perhaps there would be a way to integrate nvenc for NVIDIA GPU's as well?? With this you could increase the speed to more than 100fps - similiar to hw encoding with FRIM. Don't know how much work this would be though. Anyway thanks for working on this at all |
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