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Old 11th September 2021, 04:38   #30881  |  Link
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As far as the audio issue being a red herring, with your recent streak with audio (improperly configured apps) maybe you should consider the possibility
Keep in mind that at least two of us reported the audio issue and it had jdobbs stumped for quite a while.
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Old 11th September 2021, 08:51   #30882  |  Link
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Here is the MediaInfo

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General
ID                                       : 0 (0x0)
Complete name                            : E:\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
CompleteName_Last                        : E:\BDMV\STREAM\00025.m2ts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 24.0 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 min 55 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 1 175 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 109 Mb/s

Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 min 54 s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 7386 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 493 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 min 54 s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2

Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MLP FBA AC-3 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 2 min 54 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 563 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Stream size                              : 13.3 MiB (0%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 15
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : E-AC-3 JOC
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3 with Joint Object Coding
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos
Format profile                           : Blu-ray Disc
Format settings                          : Dolby Surround EX
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 132
Duration                                 : 2 min 54 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 664 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
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Stream size                              : 34.7 MiB (0%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Complexity index                         : 16
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Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Audio #3
ID                                       : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 2 min 54 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
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Old 11th September 2021, 09:34   #30883  |  Link
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Video #2
Duration                                 : 2 min 54 s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
I believe that this is the DV portion of the video. I have an issue with DV video as well, which I have reported. I could be why the job failed.
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Does BD-RE support DV and HFR?
Because I am getting the following error with an UHD.
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VID_0001 has DV and 60fps according to MediaInfo.
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I believe that this is the DV portion of the video. I have an issue with DV video as well, which I have reported. I could be why the job failed.
Prior to the extensions associated with the BD-UHD standard, 60fps was only allowed on 720p sources (actually 59.94fps). Now with UHD it is also allowed on 2160p and 1080p HEVC sources (60fps, 59.94fps, and 50fps). BD-RB hasn't been adjusted to accomodate the higher frame rates. It hadn't come up as an issue before now. In fact, I'd be surprised if it is used anywhere other than a demo disc. I'll have to look at it and see how much work it will entail and then put the necessary changes in my "to do" list.
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Old 14th September 2021, 22:33   #30885  |  Link
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Prior to the extensions associated with the BD-UHD standard, 60fps was only allowed on 720p sources (actually 59.94fps). Now with UHD it is also allowed on 2160p and 1080p HEVC sources (60fps, 59.94fps, and 50fps). BD-RB hasn't been adjusted to accomodate the higher frame rates. It hadn't come up as an issue before now. In fact, I'd be surprised if it is used anywhere other than a demo disc. I'll have to look at it and see how much work it will entail and then put the necessary changes in my "to do" list.
Gemini Man and possibly another movie are 4K 60fps movies
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ow with UHD it is also allowed on 2160p and 1080p HEVC sources (60fps, 59.94fps, and 50fps). BD-RB hasn't been adjusted to accomodate the higher frame rates. It hadn't come up as an issue before now. In fact, I'd be surprised if it is used anywhere other than a demo disc. I'll have to look at it and see how much work it will entail and then put the necessary changes in my "to do" list.
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Old 15th September 2021, 06:35   #30887  |  Link
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Gemini Man and possibly another movie are 4K 60fps movies
Yes, Gemini Man has 60fps
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gemin...lu-ray/252674/

Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk has 60fps, too.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Billy...lu-ray/166477/
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Old 15th September 2021, 09:10   #30888  |  Link
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Yes, Gemini Man has 60fps
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gemin...lu-ray/252674/

Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk has 60fps, too.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Billy...lu-ray/166477/
Agreed... There are not many HFR 4K Blu-ray releases. Probably way too few to force any major changes to BD Rebuilder

If anyone is interested there is/was a brief discussion (very brief) about HFR movies over on the Blu-ray Forum.

Out of interest... Did anybody here have a AVCHD 2.0 camcorder that could capture 1920x1080p50/60 AVC video?

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Yes, Gemini Man has 60fps
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gemin...lu-ray/252674/

Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk has 60fps, too.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Billy...lu-ray/166477/
I did convert both disks with BDRB to a 50GB target without issues
They play fine in my Panasonic player.
Guess there is no need to adjust anything
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Out of interest... Did anybody here have a AVCHD 2.0 camcorder that could capture 1920x1080p50/60 AVC video?
I have a Panasonic GH5 and for 98% of shots I decided indeed for AVCHD 2.0 1920x1080x50p,
besides a few attempts at 4K@25p in .mov.
The GH5 Micro 4/3 sensor isn't really worth 4K, but its HFR is very nice to have.
Most projects of mine end up as Blu-ray 1280x720x50p.
The result after stabilizing/framing fits the camera sensor capabilities well and is buttersmooth.
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I have a Panasonic GH5 and for 98% of shots I decided indeed for AVCHD 2.0 1920x1080x50p...
Interesting... If you have the time I would be most grateful in having a short sample of some vehicles in motion, contained within the native AVCHD file folder structure
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Yes, Gemini Man has 60fps
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gemin...lu-ray/252674/

Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk has 60fps, too.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Billy...lu-ray/166477/
So I should spend hours of work to support two movies and a demo disc?

Like I said, I've added it to my to-do list. But it isn't a high priority.
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I would be most grateful in having a short sample of some vehicles in motion, contained within the native AVCHD file folder structure.
Will shoot a short traffic scene soon.
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So I should spend hours of work to support two movies and a demo disc?

Like I said, I've added it to my to-do list. But it isn't a high priority.
I never said that.
My post was just informational.
If you decide it is too much work and you won't support it, I respect that.
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So I should spend hours of work to support two movies and a demo disc?

Like I said, I've added it to my to-do list. But it isn't a high priority.
As I mentioned before ... BDRB handles HFR just fine (at least with my settings):
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[09.15.21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.22
[10:58:45] Source:  GEMINI_MAN
  - Input BD size: 86,10 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:17:58.350]
  - Target BD size: 47,36 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), CQM
  - UHD-BD source detected.
  - Decoding/Frame serving: NVENCC
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[10:58:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [10:58:47] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 3)
 - [10:58:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [10:58:53] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
   - Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 528 frames
 - [10:58:53] Performing CQM Prediction...
   - Analyzing 17,25 21,70 23,30 23,70 [23,75]
 - [10:59:16] Encoding using constant quality mode.
 - [10:59:26] Video Encode complete
 - [10:59:26] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [10:59:26] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:59:30] Processing: VID_00003 (2 of 3)
 - [10:59:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
 - [11:13:47] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
   - Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
   - Rate/Length: 59,940fps, 420.962 frames
 - [11:13:47] Performing CQM Prediction...
   - Analyzing 1,00 18,20 19,70 21,00 22,30 23,40 24,30 25,05 25,60 25,95 26,15 [26,20]
 - [11:23:54] Encoding using constant quality mode.
 - [12:42:45] Video Encode complete
 - [12:42:45] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
   - Track 4354 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [12:42:45] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [12:45:07] Processing: VID_00579 (3 of 3)
 - [12:45:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00579]
 - [12:45:26] Reencoding video [VID_00579]
   - Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
   - Rate/Length: 59,940fps, 10.940 frames
 - [12:45:27] Performing CQM Prediction...
   - Analyzing 1,00 [8,15]
 - [12:45:33] Encoding using constant quality mode.
   - Performing size-correcting second pass...
 - [12:49:36] Video Encode complete
 - [12:49:36] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [12:49:37] Multiplexing M2TS
[12:49:42]PHASE ONE complete
[12:49:42]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [12:49:42] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:50:10] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[12:50:10] Writing BD structure to ISO file
 - ImgBurn completed successfully
 - GEMINI_MAN folder removed.
[12:53:36] JOB: GEMINI_MAN finished.
Must be something odd with that DEMO disc

I'd love to see more movies in HFR ... on a big screen with 4K thats just a stunning experience.
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As I mentioned before ... BDRB handles HFR just fine (at least with my settings):

Must be something odd with that DEMO disc
Yes, but is it HFR with DV? From what I saw it wasn't. The demo disc has a separate DV video file. I think that is the issue. I have run into an issue with a normal frame rate movie that has a separate DV video file and it failed.
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Gemini Man has DV
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OK, let me rephrase the question... does it have a separate DV video file?
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OK, let me rephrase the question... does it have a separate DV video file?
Do you mean a separate track for DV?
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