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5th March 2014, 20:00 | #19481 | Link | |
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I'm just a bit frustrated, because this was working for me before, and I cannot figure out why it is not now, especially since you've confirmed that nothing has changed with respect to these calculations. The last 3 titles that I have tried are exhibiting this behavior. I only mentioned "The Artist" due to the very small amount that it needed to be shrunk, and the large amount of space saved by the audio re-encode. Of course, by modifying the target size, I have found a way around this behavior. Maybe you'll be able to see something, and if so, I look forward to hearing about it. Thanks again. |
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5th March 2014, 22:09 | #19483 | Link |
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- [21:49:39] Processing: VID_00066 (55 of 102) - [21:49:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066] - Error in attempt to MKVMERGE. [21:50:21] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted If I remember correctly, I could make a back up of this BD (using BD-RB version 0.45.05) with which I am currently having a problem like above. Unfortunately, I could not test it due to an expiration message of the older version. I hoped I could bridge through the "problem" I have with only one BD from my BD stock. |
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I also just tried to use 0.45.05, today, to do a sanity check and confirm that what I am trying to do now worked then. I also received the expiration message and was therefore unable to test. |
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5th March 2014, 22:26 | #19485 | Link | |
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Things can't get fixed with posts that just say "...it doesn't work" Last edited by jdobbs; 5th March 2014 at 22:33. |
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5th March 2014, 22:44 | #19487 | Link | |
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I have tried internal LAVF for decoding also with the same results, unfortunately. |
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6th March 2014, 01:33 | #19488 | Link |
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I have Extras which are reported by BD-RB as 1080i,29.97fps.
I resize to 1440x1080, and the script becomes accordingly Code:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.14 (beta) LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files VIDEO\DGdecNV\DGDecodeNV.dll") DGSource("C:\TEMP\BD REBUILDER\WORKFILES\VID_01054.DGI", fieldop=0) SeparateFields() BicubicResize(1440,540) Weave() ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001) I tried various settings, but as soon as I resize to 1440x1080 I get the blended frames. When I don't resize I am getting a progressive 3:2 pattern at 29.97 without blended frames but with the 3:2 judder. Now I found that the source is actually not interlaced, but telecined. The script Code:
TFM().tdecimate() Is there an option or a setting in DB-RB which I possibly missed? |
6th March 2014, 01:40 | #19489 | Link |
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Turn on deinterlacing.
You'll also find that most of the time you'll find that the combing effects are only visible on a computer, but aren't there when you play back using a standalone and a monitor. Last edited by jdobbs; 6th March 2014 at 01:42. |
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@Peter_A - Turn the clock back on your PC to Feb of this year and you can test 45.05 (it's what I'm doing right now).
I do agree, I've seen that recent builds calculate: Full BD with all audio / Target Size = Compression Ratio. No deduction are made for stripped or compressed tracks. It my be a per PC issue of some sort, otherwise a lot of people should be reporting undersized discs. Last edited by DoctorM; 6th March 2014 at 09:12. |
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Actually I made 2 mistakes : 1) When leaving it as interlaced and watching the result on PC, I had the deinterlacer of the SW player disabled, hence the blended/combed frames. The TV applies its deinterlacer on material which is flagged as interlaced, and the result looks good on TV. The TV seems to bob to 60fps. 2) When I selected "Use DEINTERLACER on interlaced sources" I had -- from a previous test -- "DEINTERLACER_TYPE=4" in the .ini which removed the deinterlacer from the script; therefore the ugly result. Leaving the "DEINTERLACER TYPE= " alone I get a "3+2blended" same rate (29.97fps) pattern which also looks ok on TV. Eventually I tried "DEINTERLACER_TYPE=3" (smoothdeinterlacer) which produced a "3+2repeats" same rate (29.97fps) pattern which also looks decent on TV. At the end, 1) i.e. leaving it interlaced and let the TV take care of the rest looks best for me. (I found that the "IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown" had no effect on the script) I understand that restoring a 23.976fps progressive stream with "telecide().tdecimate()" or similar changes the framrate which may have implications on audio sync and pitch (?). Last edited by Sharc; 6th March 2014 at 11:59. |
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6th March 2014, 15:16 | #19492 | Link | |
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Since interlaced sources are native to the TV (HDTV uses 1080i), it's likely that it didn't need to deinterlace it. It just presents the two interlaced pictures at 60 fields per second. That is, of course, unless you have your player set to output 1080p instead. Last edited by jdobbs; 6th March 2014 at 15:22. |
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6th March 2014, 18:18 | #19493 | Link |
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I previously had a bonus feature from a DVD. It was mixed frame rate but largely 23.976 with soft telecine flags. I couldn't find any combination of settings that worked well in BDRB. The closest was the defaults that gave me 29,97p output. I ended up doing it manually and it needed to honor pulldown flags and be IVTC'd to get to 24p.
If I missed a setting there I'd like to know what. |
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Thank you. |
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For playback via projector or PC deinterlacing seems to be the better choice. |
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6th March 2014, 22:31 | #19496 | Link |
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I still do have a problem with Quick-Play backup and edited menus. I have 2 episodes and 1 extra. The Quick-Menu looks ok on the TV, but when I select any one of the episodes the movie does not start but the TV screen turns black with "no video signal" message after some time. When I select the Extra, the Extra playback starts as expected. Weird. I still try to figure out if it depends on a particular workflow.
As a workaround I can import the already encoded disc, check/edit the Quick menu and re-author the disc. Wild guess: Could the menu problem be related to the inclusion of the secondary video in the Quick-Play backup mode? Last edited by Sharc; 7th March 2014 at 00:24. |
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1) The edited titles.inf which is written to the source folder Code:
[Titles] Title=GAME OF THRONES Season 1 Disk 2 Threshold=32400000 00073=Episode 3 [00:57:14.097] 00074=Episode 4 [00:55:37.792] 00075=Episode 5 [00:54:16.503] [Position] 00073=1 00074=2 00075=3 [Selected] 00073=-1 00074=-1 00075=-1 Code:
[Titles] Title=GAME OF THRONES Season 1 Disk 2 00001=Episode 3 [00:57:14.097] 00002=Episode 4 [00:55:37.792] 00003=Episode 5 [00:54:16.503] 3) When I now IMPORT this non-working disc, a complete titles.inf (same as 1) with all sections will be created, which eventually works. Could 2) be the reason for the Quick-Play failure? |
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8th March 2014, 06:50 | #19498 | Link |
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Hi JDobbs,
I just downloaded and am running the latest version of your program, 0.46.14 and I'm familiar with your software and have made backups of my Blu-Rays in the past just fine but today I'm trying to backup "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey", output size=BD25, and as soon as it starts I get the following error message: PHASE ONE, Encoding - [21:41:52] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 3) - [21:41:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001] - Error in attempt to extract audio/subs. - Bitstream exception Unknown exception. It does not have to be! Please contact application support team for more information. [21:41:56] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted So, since it says "It does not have to be! Please contact application support team for more information." that's what I'm doing. I went into my settings and tried changing my audio encoding options like checking the "use 448 kbs for AC3 encoding" and "Keep HD Audio for BD25" to no avail. I also selected only English as the subtitles to backup. Any ideas on what I can try next? Thanks! Last edited by D-Train61; 8th March 2014 at 06:55. |
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