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23rd October 2020, 06:38 | #121 | Link | |
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You must be very new to hardware business if you really didn't know that Intel has paid billions to recover from its malpractices:
https://www.extremetech.com/computin...es-against-amd Of course Intel has earned a lot more billions from its malpractices than the fines that paid to AMD Quote:
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the fact AMD never bothered to upgrade iGPU to NAVI is a problem and shows a clear lack of dedication and just selling them the old stuff is not seen in a great light even intel updates there "terrible" iGPU more often.
it literally took 1 year to get a NAVI dGPU in a laptop... the 5700 is already EOL. |
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Mate, that article is 6 years old. I want to see recent evidence that supports your claim. Don't cling on to the past if you want to make a point about the present. It invalidates your entire argument.
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Said someone who is posting graphics card sales data from 2010 to make a point of CPU sales of 2020...
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It just so happens that the graph contains sales data all the way from 2010 to 2020, which is why I brought it up. I would not have bothered if recent data was not included, unlike you with your 6-year old article. You seem overly defensive.
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You brought GPU sales in the discussion when I was talking about CPU sales.
And you insist on this thing. And you insist on Intel not bribing and not using malpractices. You seem overly manipulative.
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I then invalidated your argument by referring to historic sales data between 2010 and 2020, which paints a clear picture. As for Intel, I don't insist on anything. I merely asked you to provide evidence to support your claim, and you are seemingly unable to produce anything other than an article from 6 years ago. Anyway, I'll leave it here since you seem to just contradict yourself.
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That would be the weirdest step they can (could?) make: it just doesn't make any sense. The only explanation I can think of is: Quote:
I think they screwed up this release very badly with memory configuration! They could have sold every other shite attribute (high power consumption, bad performance scaling, etc) but not these memory configs... That's how they wanted to segment the market, because with DLSS any mid range GPUs can do 4k otherwise So, how to limit 3070/3060 sales to only 1440p or 1080p gamers? Give them 8/6GB of memory (at a very high price)! But giving only 6/8GB 4 years later???!!! wtf?! Consoles have 16, AMD will have 16/12GB! This way it's not competition but would be a massacre nvidia well deserves this, with its bullshit marketing (er... propaganda ) and shite, overpriced products. Lastly, Jim's newer video about the "Titan class" 3090 , very educational ... (huhn, you don't have to listen to him if you don't like him )
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It is worth noting that consoles' 16GB are not comparable to GPU VRAM since they run on APUs (i.e. shared memory pool across GPU and CPU). So you're not getting a dedicated 16GB VRAM.
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Yes, that's true, but how much does the OS need? 1 / 2 GB?
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A lot more from the looks of it
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@Cineaste
It is very well known that AMD sells both CPUs and GPUs. So in order to reply to your answer if in Greece there is only AMD to sell its products I replied in two parts in the same comment. The first part of my comment was for mindfactory.de CPU sales which have broken every record possible for the last many months (few years) https://www.tweaktown.com/news/73040...-13/index.html So, Germans buy a ton of AMD CPUs I said the same for amazon.com best cpu sellers https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...zgbs/pc/229189 So, Americans buy a ton of AMD CPUs Are we OK up to here ? Then, in order to fullfil your desire for a complete answer of all AMD products I added the second part of my comment regarding a GPU sales boost towards the end of the year, obviously due to the marvelous RDNA2 architecture and a lot better (hopefully) availability of RX 6000 series cards compared to 308/3090 non existent availability. Two different kind of AMD products two different parts of the same comment. Are we OK now ? As you can understand it's the last time I reply to such tricky and out of the context comments by you.
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not here to start rumours just listing possible solution to the current situation. Quote:
the consoles have >shared< 16GB momey not 16 GB Vram so you have 8 GB ram in your system and a 8 GB Vram GPU you are already in a similar space as the new consoles but hey that JIM guy just ignores these facts... because it counds so cool if a consoel has more Vram then your new high end GPU... BTW 16 GB ram is considered base line as PC gaming and there is only one game that needs a lot of Vram and that's doom eternal and good luck seeing a difference between that setting and one lower. Quote:
yeah just let him compare stuff he likes more so he get'S the biggest difference on his graphs without taking any easy accessible data into account like the series is part of one card... and then let him call the entire series "bad" such a joke... just keep going and compare over price flagship cards very fair comparison don't take into consideration what AMD was doing at the time there is no need for that people could learn something from that but the number would be so "amazing" and it would be good content not but "you believe what nvidia said" followed by "the 3090 is the flagship..." quoted from nvidia... the 3090 is a joke if you don't need the memory don't get it. video: "You're Being Misled" you have something every in common with these companies. |
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3080 is strictly a 4K gaming card, not less.
10GB of VRAM is the bare minimum for nowadays gaming at 4K and using Borderlands 3 with RayTracing you already need more than 10GB of VRAM for highest settings. For next-gen gaming at 4K, it could be possible that 10GB will not be enough. A future proof card for the next two years until the new architecture comes, should have more than 10GB of VRAM for 4K.
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Big Navi is freaking fast.
Even 6800 XT is beating 3080 in 3DMark. nVidia lost the battle. Game Over. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rade...es-hit-the-web
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Cineaste already replied that the OS in consoles need more than that, but also don't forget there are other data than just graphics, and games still need them in system RAM.
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nVidia is falling apart.
After the cancellation of 3080 20GB and 3070 16GB the AIBs are really pissed off. After the non existent availability of 3080/3090 cards, the gamers/ clients are pissed off. nVidia right now wants to take back the whole release of Ampere cards, but it's too late. They have released the goddamned cards! Oh Red October...What you have done to poor Intel and poor nVidia. https://youtu.be/VWAzm-DUcM4
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But there are others who think differently and don't believe in all this hype.
Jarred Walton from Tom's Hardware, a site which has become a part of recent history while reviewing nVidia GPUs with the unforgettable "Just Buy It: Why Nvidia RTX GPUs Are Worth the Money" says that "Fake Rumors Suck: Will the Real RX 6000 Please Stand Up?" Regarding the performance teaser of RX 6000 card in Ryzen 5000 announcement he believes Quote:
But he seems to forget (?) that for Ampere architecture, the 3080 is the 980 Ti and the 1080 Ti of the past and the fastest version of the same die is 3090, only 10% faster in games. There are no other rabbits for nVidia to pull out of the hat. Jarred Walton from Tom's Hardware is wrong. AMD didn't show 6900 XT but 6800 XT with one month older than final drivers (my take) 6800 XT trade blows with 3800 (it's faster in more games than it's slower) and 6900 XT...well...we 'll see... https://www.tomshardware.com/news/fa...lease-stand-up
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Not sure if it belongs here but for those who are not aware of it it might be interesting.
In short marantz, denon and yamaha hdmi 2.1 implementation has a bug which can't be fixed by an software update. It causes a black screen under certain settings with new nvidia gpus and the upcoming xbox. PS5 is not affected. Will be interesting to see if new amd gpu are also affected. Lots of German sites are informing about this bug atm but here is one in english and here on avs forum. NoTechi Last edited by NoTechi; 26th October 2020 at 15:58. |
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