BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[CraigWally]

Just had this strange issue with African Safari 3D

[14:19:47] Source:  AFRICAN_SAFARI_3D
  - Input BD size: 27.74 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:24:51.705]
  - Target BD size: 23.34 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
  - MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:19:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [14:19:50] Processing: VID_00005 (1 of 15)
 - [14:19:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
 - [14:20:13] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,764 frames
   - Bitrate: 11,255 Kbs
 - [14:20:13] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:24:29] Video Encode complete
 - [14:24:29] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (und): Keeping original audio
 - [14:24:29] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:24:52] Processing: VID_00006 (2 of 15)
 - [14:24:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
 - [14:25:04] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,755 frames
   - Bitrate: 11,255 Kbs
 - [14:25:04] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:29:08] Video Encode complete
 - [14:29:08] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (und): Keeping original audio
 - [14:29:08] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:29:22] Processing: VID_00021 (3 of 15)
 - [14:29:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
 - [14:34:52] Reencoding video [VID_00021]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 123,604 frames
   - Bitrate: 20,760 Kbs
 - [14:34:53] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
 - [17:45:17] Video Encode complete
 - [17:45:17] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [17:45:17] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:56:40] Processing: VID_00101 (4 of 15)
 - [17:56:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
 - [17:58:56] Reencoding video [VID_00101]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 37,115 frames
   - Bitrate: 24,373 Kbs
 - [17:58:56] Reencoding: VID_00101, Pass 1 of 1
 - [19:02:43] Video Encode complete
 - [19:02:43] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [19:02:43] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [19:06:10] Processing: VID_00102 (5 of 15)
 - [19:06:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00102]
 - [19:06:45] Reencoding video [VID_00102]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 10,505 frames
   - Bitrate: 24,398 Kbs
 - [19:06:45] Reencoding: VID_00102, Pass 1 of 1
 - [19:25:56] Video Encode complete
 - [19:25:56] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [19:25:56] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [19:26:45] Processing: VID_00103 (6 of 15)
 - [19:26:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00103]
 - [19:26:56] Reencoding video [VID_00103]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,268 frames
   - Bitrate: 25,572 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
 - [19:26:56] Reencoding: VID_00103, Pass 1 of 1
 - [19:53:31] Video Encode complete
 - [19:53:31] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [19:53:31] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [19:53:48] Scanning for 3D CLPI info...
 - [19:54:05] Processing: VID_00401 (7 of 15)
 - [19:54:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00401]
 - [19:54:22] Reencoding video [VID_00401]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,848 frames
   - Bitrate: 11,282 Kbs
 - [19:54:22] Reencoding: VID_00401, Pass 1 of 1
 - [19:56:46] Video Encode complete
 - [19:56:46] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [19:56:46] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [19:56:52] Processing: VID_00402 (8 of 15)
 - [19:56:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00402]
 - [19:57:02] Reencoding video [VID_00402]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,786 frames
   - Bitrate: 11,254 Kbs
 - [19:57:02] Reencoding: VID_00402, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:01:28] Video Encode complete
 - [20:01:28] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [20:01:28] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [20:01:37] Processing: VID_00403 (9 of 15)
 - [20:01:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00403]
 - [20:01:47] Reencoding video [VID_00403]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,945 frames
   - Bitrate: 10,820 Kbs
 - [20:01:48] Reencoding: VID_00403, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:06:40] Video Encode complete
 - [20:06:40] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [20:06:40] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [20:06:48] Processing: VID_00404 (10 of 15)
 - [20:06:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00404]
 - [20:06:54] Reencoding video [VID_00404]
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,968 frames
   - Bitrate: 6,533 Kbs
 - [20:06:54] Reencoding: VID_00404, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:10:52] Video Encode complete
 - [20:10:52] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [20:10:52] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [20:10:59] Processing: VID_00405 (11 of 15)
 - [20:10:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00405]
 - [20:11:26] Reencoding video [VID_00405]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,592 frames
   - Bitrate: 11,226 Kbs
 - [20:11:26] Reencoding: VID_00405, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:15:38] Video Encode complete
 - [20:15:38] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [20:15:38] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [20:15:51] Processing: VID_00406 (12 of 15)
 - [20:15:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00406]
 - [20:16:11] Reencoding video [VID_00406]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,856 frames
   - Bitrate: 11,384 Kbs
 - [20:16:11] Reencoding: VID_00406, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:20:39] Video Encode complete
 - [20:20:39] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [20:20:39] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [20:20:46] Processing: VID_00407 (13 of 15)
 - [20:20:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00407]
 - [20:20:56] Reencoding video [VID_00407]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,096 frames
   - Bitrate: 11,390 Kbs
 - [20:20:56] Reencoding: VID_00407, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:26:17] Video Encode complete
 - [20:26:17] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [20:26:17] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [20:26:25] Processing: VID_00408 (14 of 15)
 - [20:26:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00408]
 - [20:26:35] Reencoding video [VID_00408]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,360 frames
   - Bitrate: 11,216 Kbs
 - [20:26:35] Reencoding: VID_00408, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:32:20] Video Encode complete
 - [20:32:20] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [20:32:20] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [20:32:30] Processing: VID_00409 (15 of 15)
 - [20:32:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00409]
 - [20:32:40] Reencoding video [VID_00409]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,048 frames
   - Bitrate: 11,386 Kbs
 - [20:32:40] Reencoding: VID_00409, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:38:11] Video Encode complete
 - [20:38:11] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
 - [20:38:11] Multiplexing M2TS
[20:38:20]PHASE ONE complete
[20:38:20]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [20:38:20] Converting SSIF file references
 - [20:39:01] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
[20:39:07] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[20:39:08] JOB: AFRICAN_SAFARI_3D finished.

Resulting output has a 3D Menu (which I guess is VID_00103)(6 of 15)
But the main movie (VID_00021)(3 of 15) is in 2D.

I have since tried this with DVDFAB - and that manages to convert it correctly.
Any Ideas ?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by mparade

Only by using IVTC_TELECIDE=0 in the ini can solve the problem. With SD_PROGRESSIVE set to 1 the video is still being played jerky. Interestingly the filesize is around 71MB
when IVTC_TELECIDE=0, and with the other IVTC attempts when IVTC_TELECIDE=1 and each other settings were unchanged was around 40,5MB. So, much bigger filesize couples with fine playback while the smaller one with a jerky one.

Do whatever you want. I can only tell you the facts. But if you set SD_PROGRESSIVE=0 when using iVTC and output to BD you will NOT get output that plays correctly on a blu-ray player. That's why it is a hidden setting -- because it can create self-inflicted injury. It isn't a point for debate -- it is a fact.

Changing those settings has nothing whatsoever to do with bitrate.

[mparade]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Do whatever you want. I can only tell you the facts. But if you set SD_PROGRESSIVE=0 when using iVTC and output to BD you will NOT get output that plays correctly on a blu-ray player. That's why it is a hidden setting -- because it can create self-inflicted injury. It isn't a point for debate -- it is a fact.

Changing those settings has nothing whatsoever to do with bitrate.

OK. Thank you very much for your time and efforts!

[mparade]

If using the "Convert SD to HD (1080)" option, what determines the parameters of the upresize filter in the avs
file? I always have 480i and 576i SD extras on my BD disks to be upresized, but do not really know why the upresize parameters are so different in the resulted avs files:

LanczosResize(1920,540), source is 480i
LanczosResize(1920,1080), source is 480i

LanczosResize(1440,540).Addborders(240,0,240,0) source is 576i

LanczosResize(1440,540).Addborders(240,0,240,0)
source is 576i

Please let me know what I have overlooked.

Thank you very much again for your your help in advance.

[jdobbs]

It depends on settings and the source. If you have an interlaced source, the proper way to resize is to separate the fields, resize the two fields and then interleave them again. That's when you would see "LanczosResize(1920,540)". But if the source is progressive and/or has been either deinterlaced or had IVTC applied you would see "LanczosResize(1920,1080)".

In a true interlaced source each of the two fields (making up a single frame) represents a different point in time. So they have to be resized individually.

If you are resizing a 4:3 aspect ratio to a strictly 16:9 format (1280x720 or 1920x1080), you have to add borders. If the source is 16:9, then you don't. The source pixels of a 720x480 or 576 source are not square. Their ratio of height to width depends on the specified display and/or source aspect ratio.

The best advice is to let BD-RB do it's work and not question it -- it is never as simple as you might think.

[mparade]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

It depends on settings and the source. If you have an interlaced source, the proper way to resize is to separate the fields, resize the two fields and then interleave them again. That's when you would see "LanczosResize(1920,540)". But if the source is progressive and/or has been either deinterlaced or had IVTC applied you would see "LanczosResize(1920,1080)".

In a true interlaced source each of the two fields (making up a single frame) represents a different point in time. So they have to be resized individually.

If you are resizing a 4:3 aspect ratio to a strictly 16:9 format (1280x720 or 1920x1080), you have to add borders. If the source is 16:9, then you don't. The source pixels of a 720x480 or 576 source are not square. Their ratio of height to width depends on the specified display aspect ratio.

The best advice is to let BD-RB do it's work and not question it -- it is never as simple as you might think.

I think one of the best way to learn new things is to ask from a proficient person! (at least for the non-proficient! ) 20 bucks on the way to support BD-RB...again, thank you very much!

[jdobbs]

I appreciate the support. But don't feel you have to keep donating. You have already donated much more than your fair share.

[kabster]

@jdobbs and to all those ppl behind the scenes who have contributed,

First, i like to say thank you for your time and effort you have put into this gem

Although this is still an beta, i REALY must say it almost looks and sounds pretty finished to me ..

In that regard, i succesfully have done/eoncoded 5 or 6 movies to BD-25 of which 1 with an very long playtime (Avatar / 2-pass / better CQ setting).

And again i must say.. i wos very SURRPRISED how exceptionally good the quality from MAIN MOVIE wos 0_0 !!!
Furthermore, despite all the extras (that takes lots of space i might add) the main movie is as good as the movie from the original source.

Keeping Main movie + → ALL EXTRAS FEATURES ←is something that couldn't possible be done with DVD whitout sacrificing the Video quality from the main movie !!!



However, i have had 1 nuicance with rebuilder 47.04 !!!
Namely, the audio/video wos out of synchronisation starting from an certain playtime (usually arround an hour ... near the end of the movie !!)

The sollution to that wos to use x264/ internal lavf as frame server !!

the above problem occured with all my BD rips !! Also the original bDrips played just fine in different software players .. just so you know that it wosnt an bad rip issue !!

On a side note, a. i wish there will be an feature to blank some parts through rebuilder and ..
B. a way to choose an destination path for the created ISO file !!

Tried to set an iso path through bd ini.config file but allas ... bdrebuilder still writes the iso to the same path where the workfolder resides !!



Again thank you very much, and although we agreed to disagree allot in the past jdobs. Nevertheless, soon i will vote for you with my wallet jdobs


cheers,

[Chudz]

Unable to load program in Windows 8.1 x64. I have followed the instructions in the main post and enabled the MPEG 2 decoding etc. I also registered the MSCOMCTL.OCX using a little tool I downloaded due to some permission issues with Windows 8.

However when I try to load BDRB.exe nothing happens no error message or anything it just does nothing. Anyone know how I can fix this?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Chudz

Unable to load program in Windows 8.1 x64. I have followed the instructions in the main post and enabled the MPEG 2 decoding etc. I also registered the MSCOMCTL.OCX using a little tool I downloaded due to some permission issues with Windows 8.

However when I try to load BDRB.exe nothing happens no error message or anything it just does nothing. Anyone know how I can fix this?

It's almost assuredly antivirus and/or firewall software that is blocking it. I've seen similar reports in the past from people using COMODO -- which I don't recommend to anyone because it is so intrusive. The problem isn't with BD-Rebuilder...

You may want to look through your antivirus/firewall software and see if there is a way to add exceptions... or better yet, dump it and replace it with software that lets you use your computer without interfering. These aggravating little monsters will keep on screwing with consumers heads until we all respond with "fix it or dump it".

[Chudz]

You where right it was "Bit Defender Anti-Virus Plus 2014" what is annoying is if I load up Bit Defender is has loads of alerts about the program being malicious yet there was no popups to say it was being blocked! Piece of crap lol thanks for the suggestion!

[Marban]

Hello, great job.

is it in next time possible to rebuild a 3D Bluray include the ssif data and left and right eye separately in 2x m2ts Data?

Thank you for a answer.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Marban

Hello, great job.

is it in next time possible to rebuild a 3D Bluray include the ssif data and left and right eye separately in 2x m2ts Data?

Thank you for a answer.

You can do that now for movie-only by selecting to output to an ISO. You can also output to 2x M2TS files (but without the SSIF).

Due to the nature of SSIF folders (the SSIF file uses file-system features to point to the M2TS data without actually having any data of its own) it is unlikely you will see that for full backups any time soon.

But... if you are outputting and playing from a BD player, there is no difference in quality or compatibility between the current method (no SSIF) and the SSIF structure... they are both 100% compatible with the BD standard. Anyone who says different doesn't know what they are talking about.

[Marban]

thank you for quick answer, but i cant find by alternate Movie Only Output the ISO Option.

edit: i find ISO by Settings/Output Options/write to ISO file.

But the iso Data that BD Rebuilder rebuild have only 1x m2ts not 2x m2ts.

edit: i add the m2ts with 2 Video in tsmuxer and created with option ISO 2x m2ts files include the ssif data.


and the last question, is CRF encoding for MVC Material in the next time passible?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Marban

thank you for quick answer, but i cant find by alternate Movie Only Output the ISO Option.

edit: i find ISO by Settings/Output Options/write to ISO file.

But the iso Data that BD Rebuilder rebuild have only 1x m2ts not 2x m2ts.

edit: i add the m2ts with 2 Video in tsmuxer and created with option ISO 2x m2ts files include the ssif data.


and the last question, is CRF encoding for MVC Material in the next time passible?

It's documented in the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file.

Add this to the "[Options]" area of your INI file:

OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1

Remember, though, that it only affects 3d movie-only encodes.

FRIMEncode doesn't support CRF, it only supports one-pass ABR and QP encoding -- so it is unlikely CRF will ever be an option. I may add QP at some point -- but it is a lot less useful than CRF.

[AmigaFuture]

Though my i7 doesn't have Quick-Sync, FIRM functions fine all around (no crashing) with the movies I've tested with for 2D...but is slower than x264, which I get.

I know you're busy...and I figured I'd ask anyway. Any ideas about the "Cloud Atlas" Subtitles or any other reason it's showing as 5 plus hours long with Subtitles? Have you been able to repeat it? Anyone else here able to repeat it? Thanks.

[Marban]

i set the ini to

OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1		n = 0/1 - 1=ON (default) - if set to "0", output is to a folder rather than ISO

and rebuild with "movie only" but nothing has chanced.

so i use better 2 Steps for a 3D ISO. BD Rebuilder and mux the m2ts to a 3D ISO with tsMuxer.

thanks for help.

[AmigaFuture]

Originally Posted by Marban

i set the ini to

OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1		n = 0/1 - 1=ON (default) - if set to "0", output is to a folder rather than ISO

and rebuild with "movie only" but nothing has chanced.

so i use better 2 Steps for a 3D ISO. BD Rebuilder and mux the m2ts to a 3D ISO with tsMuxer.

thanks for help.

Only put OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 in the INI. Did you put the INI and the description in?

[Marban]

this ist my ini and i set OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by AmigaFuture

Though my i7 doesn't have Quick-Sync, FIRM functions fine all around (no crashing) with the movies I've tested with for 2D...but is slower than x264, which I get.

I know you're busy...and I figured I'd ask anyway. Any ideas about the "Cloud Atlas" Subtitles or any other reason it's showing as 5 plus hours long with Subtitles? Have you been able to repeat it? Anyone else here able to repeat it? Thanks.

I don't think I have "Cloud Atlas", but I'll look. No I haven't been able to repeat it -- and frankly I'm puzzled as to how it is even possible.