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Son-of-a...
Alright, well, I just tried my 8th disc of the night and it didn't work. Go figure! Argh! Maybe I'll take it over to BestBuy and put it in one of their players and see if it works... then pick up some Verbatim BD-Rs. I've also tried WinDVD w/ Bluray Support and it hangs with that as well. Shouldn't the BDROM at least be able to read the discs?
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Speaking of full backup to BD-9's, what makes some "not play" on a standalone?
I started going full to BD-9 for some titles. I ALWAYS test burn to BD-RE to check menu function, then, if it passes, I burn to DL hard copy. The first few I did, the 9's played nice, so I started "building a pile", assuming they were all playable. Then about a week ago, I tried a 9 I just did & my Oppo spit it out as a bad disc. I then went thru my pile & tried them all, finding 7 that got spit out! Keep in mind, ALL of these ran good on BD-RE. For DL burn, I do 'em slow at 2.4x via ImgBurn & verify the burn. For the heck of it, I took 3 of 'em to my local big box HDTV place for a test drive. I tried them in a "house brand" player & a Sony. On both of those, they loaded to the main menu, BUT the salesman COULD NOT find a remote for either player, so we couldn't "launch" the disc. I'd assume they would've played though. So then I take some "bad ones" & some "good ones" to my buddy's house who has a Sony N460. Same deal, the good ones play, the bad ones get "rejected" immediately. I did notice that flix from WB end up "good", Uni & Sony end up "bad". Can't say this is a "rule" yet, just an observation on the few I've tried. The only "non-default" thing I do is, I don't select "BD-9" for the output, I go "8150MB custom". Would that make a diff on what gets processed & what doesn't? Any thoughts, folks? Could there be a hunk of leftover HD Audio at disc launch that the players reject? See ya! |
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BD media is different than DVD media. Blue laser vs red laser. Just because the backup is made to fit on a DVD DL disc doesn't change the type of backup. If burned to DVD media, it is AVCHD. To BD media, it's BluRay.
I have tested several full backups that, when burned to DVD media, did not play correctly or without audio for the main movie, but when burned to BD-RE played perfectly. I do not believe AVCHD supports HD audio, so the backups should have their audio converted to DD AC3. Following this thread from the beginning, almost one year now, there has not been many consistent full movie backups reported that play to BD5/9 media on standalones. ![]() |
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On the audio, one of my "good ones" has the DTS-HD MA "1536k core" & it plays fine on both, so core DTS is apparently OK too. I'm thinking it's more the "studio's structure" than the media. Something's "non-compliant" at disc load. I just noticed that Fox is also "good". That's the one with the DTS. |
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Hi, I'm having problems with Terminator Salvation. I've tried with 3 different versions of BD Rebuilder and am getting different errors with each. With 31.01, it completes, but audio is very badly out of sync (a few seconds off in the later parts of the movie). 31.02 and 31.05 encounter errors.
The BD Rebuilder works perfectly with other titles. Here are the logs: ----------------------- [14:59:00] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta) - Source: TERMINATOR_SALVATION - Input BD size: 24.14 GB - Approximate total content: [01:54:36.911] - Target BD size: 4.27 GB - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600] - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled - Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640 [14:59:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [14:59:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000] - [15:04:14] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 20) - Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding. - [15:11:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001] - [15:11:11] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 20) - Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding. - [15:14:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002] - [15:15:48] Reencoding: VID_00002 (3 of 20) - Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding. - [15:38:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003] - [15:38:28] Reencoding: VID_00003 (4 of 20) - Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding. - [15:47:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004] - [15:48:51] Reencoding: VID_00004 (5 of 20) [15:48:59]PHASE ONE aborted by user request ----------------------- [14:49:58] BD Rebuilder v0.31.02 (beta) - Source: TERMINATOR_SALVATION - Input BD size: 24.14 GB - Approximate total content: [01:54:36.911] - Target BD size: 4.27 GB - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600] - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled - Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640 [14:50:00] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [14:50:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000] - [14:55:39] ExtractAudioSubs() 00058 1605 [14:57:44] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted ----------------------- [15:50:12] BD Rebuilder v0.31.05 (beta) - Source: TERMINATOR_SALVATION - Input BD size: 24.14 GB - Approximate total content: [01:54:36.911] - Target BD size: 4.27 GB - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600] - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled - Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640 [15:50:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [15:50:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000] - [15:55:21] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 20) - Encode failed. Retrying. - Encode failed. Retrying. - Reached retry limit. Aborting. [15:58:24] - Failed video encode, aborted |
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2. The error you got on 0.31.02 is caused by a "file already exists" error. One of the files left over from a previous attempt is probably locked somehow. 3. The last one is probably caused by configuration problems (either HAALI, FFDSHOW, or AVISYNTH). I'm running that disc right now -- I'll let you know how it turns out. Last edited by jdobbs; 14th December 2009 at 21:40. |
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Virtually all Sony's (except the N460) will play BD-5/9 full backups as well. Others are hit-and-miss. I have a Sony BD-S360 and as of today I have only found two discs (out of several hundred) that won't work as a backup to BD-9 (both of those lose audio -- while the exact same image will burn/work on BD-25). Last edited by jdobbs; 14th December 2009 at 21:49. |
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I think that may be a bit of a stretch. It seems to only happen if there is secondary audio -- are you telling me that 90% of all Universal titles have secondary audio? Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it is the player at fault -- so there may not be much I can do about it. I will try, though.
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DMP-BD10 aggggggghhhhh
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Jobbs-- could this be a change in the AUTHORING STRUCTURE? with recent changes dating back to early last summer? Not that big of a deal because I am about to trash my DMP-BD10. The last title that I recall failing on is "UP". Re-ran the same job on RIPBOT and it plays fine on my DMP-BD10. Both Disks play on other players (hardware) Just the one the BD-rebuilder spits out fails on my DMP-BD10. (half way through the movie.) This is with Strict AVC Compliance selected. (in the settings). Last edited by slayers; 14th December 2009 at 23:04. |
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**Scrub Van Helsing - that doesn't work Last edited by drmih; 14th December 2009 at 23:24. |
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I used the same method of rebuild for all versions (confirming that I want all workspace files cleaned up when BD-rebuilder prompts). I also made sure that mpeg2 is enabled in ffdshow. I'm not sure what else there is to configure in haali or avisynth since none of the guides or issues I've read about really discuss configuring those items. Could configuration issues cause problems with this one title when others (robably at least 10 others) worked perfectly with the same configuration? |
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Success!!
ok, so I finally got one of my DVD-DL BD9's to work. I switched the backup over to movie only and it works beautifully.
Again, I'm using: I'm using Imgburn 2.5.0.0 UDF 2.50 burning as BD My burner is an LG BH08LS20 My standalone BD player is an LG BD390 Media is Verbatim DVD+R DL Thank you to all for the advice. Must go, Transformers 2 is calling...
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