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Old 19th July 2020, 09:17   #561  |  Link
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@real.finder can you have a look at nnedi3_resize16()? I had stability issues when used on YUV444P16 format as opposed to stacked.
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Old 19th July 2020, 09:44   #562  |  Link
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@real.finder can you have a look at nnedi3_resize16()? I had stability issues when used on YUV444P16 format as opposed to stacked.
they are not a same I note this before https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...63#post1903763
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Old 19th July 2020, 10:17   #563  |  Link
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It's not quality issues but performance/stability, maybe an avisynth bug, just updated AVS+ and plugins to latest yesterday.


By the way I fixed a stability issue in "Stabilization Tools Pack", do you want me to PR it?

Code:
UVfix ? eval("""
clpDith=Dither_convert_8_to_16()

ScriptClip ("
blue=round((AverageChromaU(clp) - AverageChromaU()) * 256.0)
red=round((AverageChromaV(clp) - AverageChromaV()) * 256.0)

SmoothTweak16(clpDith,saturation=1.0,hue1=min(384,blue),hue2=min(384,red),HQ=true)
DitherPost(stacked=true,prot=false,mode=6)
", args="clp,clpDith" )
""") : last
It would be wise to convert this to internal avisynth but I couldn't find a U and V axis based HUE function, read on Tweak or ColorYUV. (I think I can swap planes as a dirty trick tho)

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Old 19th July 2020, 10:27   #564  |  Link
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It's not quality issues but performance/stability, maybe an avisynth bug, just updated AVS+ and plugins to latest yesterday.


By the way I fixed a stability issue in "Stabilization Tools Pack", do you want me to PR it?

Code:
UVfix ? eval("""
clpDith=Dither_convert_8_to_16()

ScriptClip ("
blue=round((AverageChromaU(clp) - AverageChromaU()) * 256.0)
red=round((AverageChromaV(clp) - AverageChromaV()) * 256.0)

SmoothTweak16(clpDith,saturation=1.0,hue1=min(384,blue),hue2=min(384,red),HQ=true)
DitherPost(stacked=true,prot=false,mode=6)
", args="clp,clpDith" )
""") : last
It would be wise to convert this to internal avisynth but I couldn't find a U and V axis based HUE function, read on Tweak or ColorYUV. (I think I can swap planes as a dirty trick tho)
I didn't get what "PR it" mean

I think UV bug fixed in some update of depan plugin

and indeed HBD is slower than lsb (not nlsb) in case of nnedi3_resize16, since lsb use 8bit for nnedi3 (it will be 16bit if you set nlsb to true), also some new script functions (like I said in case of slimit_dif vs Dither_limit_dif16 in the old link) not as fast as the old dither functions (I think it used asm optimization)
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Old 19th July 2020, 10:51   #565  |  Link
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PullRequest over Github. I don't know if Depan is fixed, should run a test but I'm just finishing a project, also need to run a test to see if current internal Resizers are as fast as the ResizersMT from avsresizers by jpsdr. It's been some time since I last checked.
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Old 19th July 2020, 10:59   #566  |  Link
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PullRequest over Github. I don't know if Depan is fixed, should run a test but I'm just finishing a project, also need to run a test to see if current internal Resizers are as fast as the ResizersMT from avsresizers by jpsdr. It's been some time since I last checked.
then sure, why not? if you note I keep it in the edit I made in Stabilization Tools Pack in Stab3 but made it false by default (in case some one need it if using old things for debug or whatever)

internal Resizers should be faster than the ResizersMT when using external MT (prefetch in avs+) and no internal MT (set the Threads to 1 in ResizersMT)
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since there are no answer to this https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...40#post1915440

I plan to make some trick with something like how QTGMC_GetUserGlobal work, mean if the user set some global thing like set_plugins_threads it will be used in all scripts for internal multi-threading

I will not start work on this as soon as possible, maybe it will done in some days or weeks
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Old 1st August 2020, 08:44   #568  |  Link
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real.finder I've been playing around with motion compensated dfttest a little.

I've noticed camera pans in a noisy movie look more blury and noisy with increased tbsize.

I always thought increasing temporal resolution would benefit motion compensated noise reduction, especially in pans. Or do I misunderstand this?

I did two encodes with identical settings. One with tbsize=3 and one with tbsize=7. The latter gets bigger in file size and looks less clean on moving objects
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real.finder I've been playing around with motion compensated dfttest a little.

I've noticed camera pans in a noisy movie look more blury and noisy with increased tbsize.

I always thought increasing temporal resolution would benefit motion compensated noise reduction, especially in pans. Or do I misunderstand this?

I did two encodes with identical settings. One with tbsize=3 and one with tbsize=7. The latter gets bigger in file size and looks less clean on moving objects
didn't you note this in the script itself?
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# tbsize should not be set higher than mc * 2 + 1.
and it's better set the mc not the tbsize in dfttestMC since by default tbsize will change itself to mc * 2 + 1
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didn't you note this in the script itself?
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# tbsize should not be set higher than mc * 2 + 1.
and it's better set the mc not the tbsize in dfttestMC since by default tbsize will change itself to mc * 2 + 1
Whoops. I didn't notice that, no. Thanks for the explanation. Any recommendet values for mc for very noisy/little noisy sources?
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Whoops. I didn't notice that, no. Thanks for the explanation. Any recommendet values for mc for very noisy/little noisy sources?
for very noisy you may want to use mc=5, anyway trying and testing is the best thing
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Nothing serious, I believe, just a warning in AvsInfoTool: Zs_RF_Shared.avsi has a function "Undefined" which appears as duplicate of an internal core function with the same name. But I guess this is intended?
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Nothing serious, I believe, just a warning in AvsInfoTool: Zs_RF_Shared.avsi has a function "Undefined" which appears as duplicate of an internal core function with the same name. But I guess this is intended?
it will not be loaded in first placed unless you use avs 2.5
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since there are no answer to this https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...40#post1915440

I plan to make some trick with something like how QTGMC_GetUserGlobal work, mean if the user set some global thing like set_plugins_threads it will be used in all scripts for internal multi-threading

I will not start work on this as soon as possible, maybe it will done in some days or weeks
done for QTGMC in Community branch

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Global set_plugins_threads =1
QTGMC
seems work as it should
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real.finder can you tell me if LSFMod() and dfttestMC() support mod-4 or even just mod-2 resolutions?
I can't find all infos in the readmes for the filters related to these scripts.

Usually I over- or undercrop to mod-16 resolution because I had strange artefacts with some avs filters in the long past.

I wonder if this is still valid or any resolution will do as long as it's mod-2 at least.
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real.finder can you tell me if LSFMod() and dfttestMC() support mod-4 or even just mod-2 resolutions?
I can't find all infos in the readmes for the filters related to these scripts.

Usually I over- or undercrop to mod-16 resolution because I had strange artefacts with some avs filters in the long past.

I wonder if this is still valid or any resolution will do as long as it's mod-2 at least.
you should ask plugins Developers about this, anyway all I can say is try and see, and keep in mind I didn't made LSFMod() and dfttestMC() in first place I just added new things to them and did some fixes
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Hi real.finder, I hope you're well. Happy Friday ! I'm receiving an error message from your latest version of SMDegrain (3.1.2.109s) when trying to encode a 10-bit source:

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MDegrainX : out16 flag only for 8 bit sources (SMDegrain.avsiPath, line 545)
Is there a simple way to correct this? Or should I just use an 8-bit lossless intermediary? Thanks for your time.
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Hi real.finder, I hope you're well. Happy Friday ! I'm receiving an error message from your latest version of SMDegrain (3.1.2.109s) when trying to encode a 10-bit source:

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MDegrainX : out16 flag only for 8 bit sources (SMDegrain.avsiPath, line 545)
Is there a simple way to correct this? Or should I just use an 8-bit lossless intermediary? Thanks for your time.
dont use n16=true or n16_out=true with more than 8bit input
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dont use n16=true or n16_out=true with more than 8bit input
Thanks for your reply. Will the 10-bit source video still be processed in 16-bits if I don't use n16=true or n16_out=true?
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I aint looked at this at all, but maybe could mod script something like
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n16_out = (input_bpc>8) ? false : n16_out
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