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Old 2nd November 2019, 15:02   #701  |  Link
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The list at the first page mentions drivers needed for RTX series but what about 16xx series & 16xx super cards.
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Old 2nd November 2019, 15:17   #702  |  Link
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16 series use the same architecture as 20 series, just with raytracing disabled. The display output features are the same.
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Old 2nd November 2019, 16:14   #703  |  Link
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16 series use the same architecture as 20 series, just with raytracing disabled.
Tensorcores are missing too, but they seem to be useless for realtime calculations anway.
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Old 2nd November 2019, 18:11   #704  |  Link
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Is it possible to run 16xx series card on win 8.1 with a driver having correct hdr pass-through to use with madvr or does it necessarily needs win 10?
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Old 2nd November 2019, 18:46   #705  |  Link
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The list at the first page mentions drivers needed for RTX series but what about 16xx series & 16xx super cards.
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Nvidia seems to have fixed the micro stutter issue in newer driver versions, does anybody know, which version excactly?
I want add this info to the first page.
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Old 2nd November 2019, 19:16   #706  |  Link
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how do you add an information about this if it is not a universal issue?
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Old 2nd November 2019, 19:26   #707  |  Link
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I thought of adding the info, because of post #701, #702 and #703. I thought I should let users know in the summary that Nvidia seems to have fix it. But if other Nvidia users still have issues with micro stutters, of course I can not add it.

So people with an Nvidia RTX card please let me know if you have still micro stutter issues with 436.48 and above.
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Old 2nd November 2019, 20:20   #708  |  Link
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@all:
Nvidia seems to have fixed the micro stutter issue in newer driver versions, does anybody know, which version excactly?
I want add this info to the first page.
Thanks One more query,size of drivers with same version number is different for win 10 & win 7/8 so does this mean the list applies to all or specifically only to win 10.
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Old 2nd November 2019, 22:07   #709  |  Link
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@all:
Nvidia seems to have fixed the micro stutter issue in newer driver versions, does anybody know, which version excactly?
I want add this info to the first page.
That was my question, as well, and I don't think we got a definitive answer. I'm just happy it's fixed. For sure the latest driver is working very well.
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Old 3rd November 2019, 12:18   #710  |  Link
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Stutter gone for me with 441.08 (cannot say exactly which version before fixed it though)
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Old 3rd November 2019, 13:23   #711  |  Link
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I've read some more and it seems like both 440.97 and 441.08 have elevated black levels in HDR. This should be noted in the first post.

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https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...l#post58721970
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...l#post58724510
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...l#post58747886
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...l#post58750740
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@cremor:
Thanks for the info, I added it to the first post
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I've been using the latest drivers with RGB full 8-bit, non-PC mode, and black levels are spot on in both SDR and HDR.
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I've been using the latest drivers with RGB full 8-bit, non-PC mode, and black levels are spot on in both SDR and HDR.
That's one of the main reasons for using 8bits. Levels are often hosed in 12bits, and often different between SDR and HDR.
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Sounds to me like black levels work as expected, but people get messed up Full vs Limited for some reasons, which in my experience is primarily an issue only on TVs which dont advertise full range support on their edid
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Sounds to me like black levels work as expected, but people get messed up Full vs Limited for some reasons, which in my ezpet is primarily an issue only on TVs which dont advertise full range support on their edid
Not in 12bits. There is often a mismatch between the HDR and SDR levels, and you have to actually change the range in madVR to get the proper levels in most of the recent drivers and set it to the WRONG setting in madVR to get the correct levels. I use limited so I don't rely on full range support to get the correct levels. Mostly it s case of keeping GPU on full and setting madVR to 0-255 when the display is actually expecting 16-235. Not ideal, but if you don't do that the levels are simply wrong, at least here in 12bits with any driver more recent than 398.11 (possibly even 385.28).

I haven't tested this recently as I've been using 8bits for a while, but it's a known issue with 12bits. nVidia just has crap drivers and is unable to fix something without breaking (or retiring in the case of 3D) something else.

They are very lucky that others are not significantly better.
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nVidia just has crap drivers and is unable to fix something without breaking (or retiring in the case of 3D) something else.

They are very lucky that others are not significantly better.
Couldn‘t have said it better
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Sounds to me like black levels work as expected, but people get messed up Full vs Limited for some reasons, which in my experience is primarily an issue only on TVs which dont advertise full range support on their edid
nvidia ignores this.

nvidia choices limited or full range for HDMI device on only one thing the head line where the resolution is listed in there driver.
if it is listed under SD, HD, UHD it will by default use limited range even on gaming screens if the resolution is selected under "PC" it will use full range by default.
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nvidia ignores this.

nvidia choices limited or full range for HDMI device on only one thing the head line where the resolution is listed in there driver.
if it is listed under SD, HD, UHD it will by default use limited range even on gaming screens if the resolution is selected under "PC" it will use full range by default.
Except thats not true. On my Sony TV, which reports proper Full range support, it'll always pick Full range, even on typical TV resolutions like 1080p, which is listed in the section you speak of.
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beware it will remember it to trigger it again you have to ddu.

i have tested it on about 10 screens a sony TV was that list too well 2 but very very similar from the same year.

on default your sony TV needs limited range like every other screen too anyway.
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