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Old 16th December 2016, 22:57   #41541  |  Link
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Is there a way for madvr to run in PLEX?
Sort of. Use the Plex for Kodi addon and install Kodi DSPlayer. I'm not sure Plex for Kodi works with DSPlayer, though. DSPlayer needs SMB shares.
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Old 16th December 2016, 23:02   #41542  |  Link
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Emby Theater uses madVR as its renderer.

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Old 16th December 2016, 23:24   #41543  |  Link
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Is there a way for madvr to run in PLEX?
Why not just using the new "Plex Media Player" based on the player we can't write about (mpv) here?
https://nightlies.plex.tv/public-tes...esting/latest/
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Old 17th December 2016, 05:08   #41544  |  Link
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Another question... What is the limit on the best render time? 30, 40 ms...?
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To avoid dropped frames and/or presentation glitches the sum of the average stats "deinterlace" (if present), "rendering", and "present" must be a bit below the frame time, Y, in the line "v-sync [X] ms, frame [Y] ms". For example, progressive 29.97 fps video has a new frame every 33.37 ms so "rendering"+"present" needs to be a few ms below 33.37 ms. However, 23.976 fps video only has a new frame every 41.71 ms so you can use more demanding settings with lower frame rate video. Exactly how far below the frame time is required for glitch free playback is dependent on the system but a few milliseconds is usually sufficient.
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If I understood correctly, in videos of 23,976fps the best time is always below 41.71 in rendering avg stats? Always without dropped (0) frames or presentation glitches.


Like here...

http://i.imgur.com/PzRQ99q.jpg

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If I understood correctly, in videos of 23,976fps the best time is always below 41.71 in rendering avg stats? Always without dropped (0) frames or presentation glitches.
Correct, though some dropped frames, delayed frames, or presentation glitches on startup or after seeking are OK.
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But in this scene, I find NGU high a lot better than Super-xbr 150, even NGU low is better. The pearls are more defined with NGU.
Defined isn't the word I'd use, more like over brightened or vibrant/dynamic. Personally I'm not a fan of what it does for chroma, it doesn't look that good to me in either animated or real world content.

madshi, can you allow 'chroma upscaling algorithm parameter' increase & decrease change super-xbr sharpness settings? madVR says there are no parameters.

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Correct, though some dropped frames, delayed frames, or presentation glitches on startup or after seeking are OK.
yes. I saw it. I use ctrl+r to reset stats. 1 year ago I use madvr for the first time, but just now i getting a good idea how it works. Is amazong!
The only thing I can not do is that the old movies look good, without noise.

My TV (LG OLED EF9500) has an excellent player (LG Smartshare) but, very limited. (No internal sub ej) But the quality of reproduction is very good, especially in old movies.
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Defined isn't the word I'd use, more like over brightened or vibrant/dynamic. Personally I'm not a fan of what it does for chroma, it doesn't look that good to me in either animated or real world content.
I think the process of downsampling the chroma tends to dim colors in fine details so NGU's brightening of them is usually correct if compared to an RGB or 4:4:4 original.

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madshi, can you allow 'chroma upscaling algorithm parameter' increase & decrease change super-xbr sharpness settings? madVR says there are no parameters.
super-xbr doubles luma and chroma at the same time, without converting to YCbCr; separating them would cost performance.
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I think the process of downsampling the chroma tends to dim colors in fine details so NGU's brightening of them is usually correct if compared to an RGB or 4:4:4 original.
Yeah I'm aware. Any good 4:4:4 ground truth around?

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super-xbr doubles luma and chroma at the same time, without converting to YCbCr; separating them would cost performance.
Ah, cheers.
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I am getting screen tearing in exclusive mode under Windows 7, regardless of the display I use (TV, projector, computer screen). The tearing goes away if I disable exclusive mode. What are the drawbacks of NOT running exclusive mode? My GPU is GeForce 1080.
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Main drawback is not being able to run 10 bit output but for many this doesn't do much anyway. Windowed mode is a lot better than it used to be, because of it's usability it's been my preferred output for quite some time.
So basically you're losing pretty much nothing beneficial. Set and forget.
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Without so much noise or artifacts

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Correct, though some dropped frames, delayed frames, or presentation glitches on startup or after seeking are OK.


I keep asking for help. How to make these images look better? Without so much noise or artifacts? Is there anything I can do with madvr?


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^^ Jesus, post thumbnails please.

What you're calling noise/artifacts is just film grain. It's supposed to look like that...

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^^ Jesus, post thumbnails please.

What you're calling noise/artifacts is just film grain. It's supposed to look like that...
Sorry! my mistake!
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Unless you ticked "add grain" under upscaling refinement. If so, then disable it. If not, then it's just how this particular video is supposed to look.

A lot of movies have heavy film grain, and some people don't like the way it looks. Personally, I love it, if that's the look they were going for.

Moarrr grain.

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Unless you ticked "add grain" under upscaling refinement. If so, then disable it. If not, then it's just how this particular video is supposed to look.
No, it is disabled. I do not use refinements.
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Unless you ticked "add grain" under upscaling refinement. If so, then disable it. If not, then it's just how this particular video is supposed to look.

A lot of movies have heavy film grain, and some people don't like the way it looks. Personally, I love it, if that's the look they were going for.

Moarrr grain.
It happens to me only with old movies. The tv player (lg smartshare) plays it much better, without so much noise/grain. Looks much better for me.
Some way to eliminate noise/grain without losing quality and definition? I tried denoise shader, but I did not get a good result.
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It happens to me only with old movies. The tv player (lg smartshare) plays it much better, without so much noise/grain. Looks much better for me.
Some way to eliminate noise/grain without losing quality and definition? I tried denoise shader, but I did not get a good result.
Do you have enhance details on?
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It happens to me only with old movies. The tv player (lg smartshare) plays it much better, without so much noise/grain. Looks much better for me.
Some way to eliminate noise/grain without losing quality and definition? I tried denoise shader, but I did not get a good result.
Most TV's/players nowadays implement something called digital noise removal, which smooth over your image to varying degrees and remove grain, often at the cost of removing detail at the same time.

madvr doesn't currently have anything that removes grain from images. At least not yet. There should be custom scripts out there that do it that may or may not work together with madvr.
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