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Old 19th August 2012, 18:26   #15501  |  Link
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I already know the results which is why I always remove trailers etc completely and even then it doesn't always make any difference when you get the final output
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Old 20th August 2012, 02:08   #15502  |  Link
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Mp4box?

Greetings,

Trying to make an iPad MP4 HD 1920 x 1080 alternate movie only output. Works fine if I use constant rate factor output, but the file size is bigger than I want (over 11 GB), so I used 2 pass target size at 4096 and get an MP4BOX error.

Here is the log.


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[08/19/12] BD Rebuilder v0.41.01 (beta)
[16:38:42] Source:  THE_HUNGER_GAMES_PLAYLIST_00017
  - Input BD size: 36.90 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:22:33.378]
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
  - Mode: iPad MP4 HD, 1920x1080, 128Kbs AAC
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:38:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [16:38:42] Processing: VID_00511 (1 of 12)
 - [16:38:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00511]
 - [16:45:50] Reencoding video [VID_00511]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,466 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,738 Kbs
 - [16:45:50] Reencoding: VID_00511, Pass 1 of 2
 - [16:48:49] Reencoding: VID_00511, Pass 2 of 2
 - [16:53:58] Video Encode complete
 - [16:53:58] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AAC...
 - [16:58:27] Processing: VID_00006 (2 of 12)
 - [16:58:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
 - [16:58:33] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 719 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,097 Kbs
 - [16:58:33] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
 - [16:58:42] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
 - [16:58:53] Video Encode complete
 - [16:58:53] Processing: VID_00507 (3 of 12)
 - [16:58:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00507]
 - [17:01:06] Reencoding video [VID_00507]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 35,506 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,095 Kbs
 - [17:01:06] Reencoding: VID_00507, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:07:34] Reencoding: VID_00507, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:15:47] Video Encode complete
 - [17:15:47] Processing: VID_00503 (4 of 12)
 - [17:15:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00503]
 - [17:15:55] Reencoding video [VID_00503]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,262 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,084 Kbs
 - [17:15:55] Reencoding: VID_00503, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:16:09] Reencoding: VID_00503, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:16:26] Video Encode complete
 - [17:16:26] Processing: VID_00008 (5 of 12)
 - [17:16:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
 - [17:17:49] Reencoding video [VID_00008]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 22,838 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,064 Kbs
 - [17:17:49] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:21:56] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:26:53] Video Encode complete
 - [17:26:53] Processing: VID_00007 (6 of 12)
 - [17:26:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
 - [17:27:01] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,172 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,110 Kbs
 - [17:27:01] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:27:14] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:27:31] Video Encode complete
 - [17:27:31] Processing: VID_00009 (7 of 12)
 - [17:27:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
 - [17:27:39] Reencoding video [VID_00009]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,132 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,108 Kbs
 - [17:27:39] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:27:52] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:28:07] Video Encode complete
 - [17:28:07] Processing: VID_00003 (8 of 12)
 - [17:28:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
 - [17:29:46] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 26,243 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,077 Kbs
 - [17:29:46] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:34:35] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:40:24] Video Encode complete
 - [17:40:24] Processing: VID_00501 (9 of 12)
 - [17:40:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00501]
 - [17:40:29] Reencoding video [VID_00501]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 624 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,093 Kbs
 - [17:40:29] Reencoding: VID_00501, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:40:37] Reencoding: VID_00501, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:40:45] Video Encode complete
 - [17:40:45] Processing: VID_00004 (10 of 12)
 - [17:40:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
 - [17:43:03] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 40,442 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,969 Kbs
 - [17:43:04] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:50:04] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:58:48] Video Encode complete
 - [17:58:48] Processing: VID_00505 (11 of 12)
 - [17:58:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00505]
 - [17:58:54] Reencoding video [VID_00505]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 706 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,963 Kbs
 - [17:58:54] Reencoding: VID_00505, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:59:02] Reencoding: VID_00505, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:59:12] Video Encode complete
 - [17:59:12] Processing: VID_00502 (12 of 12)
 - [17:59:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00502]
 - [18:02:07] Reencoding video [VID_00502]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 61,966 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,276 Kbs
 - [18:02:07] Reencoding: VID_00502, Pass 1 of 2
 - [18:11:57] Reencoding: VID_00502, Pass 2 of 2
 - [18:24:37] Video Encode complete
[18:24:37]PHASE ONE complete
[18:24:37]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [18:24:37] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
 - ERROR in attempt to mux (MP4BOX)
[18:46:00] - Failed to REBUILD
Any ideas?

Thanks for the help!

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Old 20th August 2012, 02:15   #15503  |  Link
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MIN_M2TS_SIZE=1 n = minimum size required for BD-RB processing in MB, default is 100

By dialing 1, then encode all mpeg2 files, right?
It depends whether the size would require reencoding. You didn't post your log, so I can't tell... but if you want to force encoding you can add FORCE_ENCODE=1 to your config file (see HIDDENOPTS.TXT).
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Greetings,

Trying to make an iPad MP4 HD 1920 x 1080 alternate movie only output. Works fine if I use constant rate factor output, but the file size is bigger than I want (over 11 GB), so I used 2 pass target size at 4096 and get an MP4BOX error.

Here is the log.

Any ideas?

Thanks for the help!
MP4BOX does the multiplexing into the .MP4 container. Not sure why you'd get an error just because you used 2-pass, that doesn't make sense. An X264 file is an X264 file either way. I'll have to pick up "The Hunger Games" and give it a test.
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say 50mb, but will be more likely to say something!, have not tried it yet but it is certainly one way to improve a little more, but the final quality, the human eye does not see
Adbear is right. There's "trying to get the best" and then there's "going overboard" -- in this case you're (respectfully) going overboard.
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Old 20th August 2012, 20:08   #15506  |  Link
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That would be great!

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MP4BOX does the multiplexing into the .MP4 container. Not sure why you'd get an error just because you used 2-pass, that doesn't make sense. An X264 file is an X264 file either way. I'll have to pick up "The Hunger Games" and give it a test.
Thanks for looking into this, first time it has happened to me.

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hunger games

In backing up this movie ,movie only backup, I'm using any dvd hd latest version. Bd rebuilder latest version all the tools are up to date. Two scenes while playing the copied movie back were out of sequence. This happened on two other movies and I can never seem to find a fix for it. The only way around it seems to be a full backup using a 50 gig disk. I have backed up many movies with your software and with no problem. great great software for bd movies. Also play lists at times seems to be a problem. I used 665 for this movie. I have read allot of issues as far as that goes. Any suggestions.
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When you say the 'latest' AnyDVD, which build do you mean?
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In backing up this movie ,movie only backup, I'm using any dvd hd latest version. Bd rebuilder latest version all the tools are up to date. Two scenes while playing the copied movie back were out of sequence. This happened on two other movies and I can never seem to find a fix for it. The only way around it seems to be a full backup using a 50 gig disk. I have backed up many movies with your software and with no problem. great great software for bd movies. Also play lists at times seems to be a problem. I used 665 for this movie. I have read allot of issues as far as that goes. Any suggestions.
You likely have to change the selected playlist. There are a few discs out there that create a few or even a large selection of available playlists in an attempt to obfuscate the correct one. Some of the available playlists do nothing but mix up or repeat scenes. Since selecting the correct playlist is essentially just an educated guess (there are no flags that say "I am the movie") -- it's possible that BD-RB might pick the wrong one. Usually a google search will tell you which playlist is correct.
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The following information appeared in a post at another forum. It seems to be pertinent to your post here:

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I clicked through it for those scenes and you're correct. You can see the window of the train if you pay attention.

And for the part where she's training and then out of nowhere she appears to be in the forest. Well, she isn't actually in the forest, but in the spot where two others where previously making a fire. She's now in that same spot trying to make a fire herself. It's a quick scene so it looks disjointed.

So yeah, 76 is a good playlist.
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It would seem that all these playlists are the same due to the obfuscation protection

76
108
447
462
565
665
832
843
876
971

I used MultiAVCHD to blank all titles except 00971 and 00003 (menu) resulting in a blanked main movie. This was OK because I used TSMuxer to loaded playlist 00971 and created a single m2ts for the main movie. I then renamed the 00000.m2ts and 00000.clpi to 00004 and replaced the files created by MultiAVCHD. I edited the 00000.mpls created by TSMuxer changing the m2ts to 00004 then replaced all of the main movie playlists with the edited one including 00321.mpls which includes the 'Your disc can't play' clip. The menu and all chapter links were working so I then used BDRebuilder to resize the movie for BD25.

If you just want to do movie only, then use TSMuxer on playlist 971 and output as BluRay then use BDRebuilder to resize the created files.

I use MultiAVCHD since the blank title option in BDRebuilder has yet to be finished. With each new release I hope that it will be be finished but not so far.

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It would seem that all these playlists are the same due to the obfuscation protection

76
108
447
462
565
665
832
843
876
971

I used MultiAVCHD to blank all titles except 00971 and 00003 (menu) resulting in a blanked main movie. This was OK because I used TSMuxer to loaded playlist 00971 and created a single m2ts for the main movie. I then renamed the 00000.m2ts and 00000.clpi to 00004 and replaced the files created by MultiAVCHD. I edited the 00000.mpls created by TSMuxer changing the m2ts to 00004 then replaced all of the main movie playlists with the edited one including 00321.mpls which includes the 'Your disc can't play' clip. The menu and all chapter links were working so I then used BDRebuilder to resize the movie for BD25.

If you just want to do movie only, then use TSMuxer on playlist 971 and output as BluRay then use BDRebuilder to resize the created files.

I use MultiAVCHD since the blank title option in BDRebuilder has yet to be finished. With each new release I hope that it will be be finished but not so far.
Why not just select the correct playlist from within BD-RB directly instead of making it complicated?
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Because unless I'm mistaking you can only do a movie only with an alternate playlist, somewhere near the bottom open said something about keeping menu etc too. With an alternate playlist, you lose the menu.

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If you are doing a full backup, then you don't have to worry about any of it... because the structure will transfer over and work the same. A movie-only uses only one MPLS anyway, so all you have to do is select it.

As for "blanking" or removing the other playlists -- you couldn't "blank" or "remove" any of them anyway -- because they contain pointers to the exact same video that is in the true playback, they are just referenced out of order. I guess if they are unreferenced you could simply dump the MPLS or ignore it -- but in the end you would have the same thing as a full backup anyway.

Removing this kind of stuff accomplishes nothing -- you save no space (because they are referenced elsewhere), you take the chance of screwing up the internal functioning and menuing system, and in the end you get about the same thing as a full backup would have done with a single click. It's like going around the world to get to the other side of the street -- sure it works, but why would you choose that option?
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Why not just select the correct playlist from within BD-RB directly instead of making it complicated?
True, you can do that with BDRebuilder but you will wait 1.5+ hrs to find out if you have the movie you want. I use TSMuxer when creating a movie only BR so I can check to make sure the movie plays as it should without wasting hrs with BDRebuilder. I suppose you can just use the preview feature in BDRebuilder but I just like to do it this way, it only takes a matter of minutes with TSMuxer. When done I use BDRebuilder to resize.

BDRebuilder doesn't currently offer any way to create a movie with extras stripped but retaining the menu. This is why all the extra steps are necessary before using BDRebuilder to resize. I use MultiAVCHD to blank all playlists I don't want such as previews and warnings. When there are multiple playlists for the same clips it doesn't work correctly though.

I'm hoping the blanking feature in BDRebuilder will be functional soon.
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BDRebuilder doesn't currently offer any way to create a movie with extras stripped but retaining the menu.
It does, it just doesn't let you choose a different playlist when using that option
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It's like going around the world to get to the other side of the street -- sure it works, but why would you choose that option?
Perhaps for the adventure which leads to experience? Especially if you ~go~ around the world just to get to that other side of the street..the people you meet, the sites you see, the adventures you have while getting there. Much like some blind friends helping Me to "see"/hear video/audio with more detail than just accepting "What Is". If I just accepted "It looks/sounds good enough.." then where's the beyond mainstream adventure in That?

I thought it pretty cool what Jellyhead1 did.

High Speed option for BD-25 is swEEEEt, but an option for rebuild without compression would be really nice. Something like DVD Rebuilder has. A thought, for what it's worth.
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MKVs created have corrupt structure

I have bene using BD-rebuilder for a long time now. In the past I have only been creating BD25 discs. Recently I started creating 1080p MKVs. I am mainly using the MKV 1920x1080 640kbs DD5.1, but sometimes use the 1280x720 448kbs DD5.1.

The MKV file is created and appears to play, but the subtitles are on automatically by default. So I run mkvmerge GUI to change the subtitles to default as no. This way I still have the subs if I want them, but are not on by default. However mkvmerge starts popping errors in the log that the structure is corrupt, Resyncing. etc. Eventually it fails.

However, If I take the 264, AC3, SUP and chapter files from the WORKING folder and manually merge them, the resulting MKV is fine and none of the individual files are corrupt.

Is there a parameter I might have wrong?

MKVMERGE LOG based on MKV created by BD-Rebuilder:
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mkvmerge v5.7.0 ('The Whirlwind') built on Jul  8 2012 20:08:51
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'Matroska'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'AVC/h.264'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV' track 1: Using the output module for the format 'AC3'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV' track 3: Using the output module for the format 'PGS'.
The file 'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01 (1).mkv' has been opened for writing.
H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV: Error in the Matroska file structure at position 566670502. Resyncing to the next level 1 element.
Resyncing successful at position 567732205.
H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV: Error in the Matroska file structure at position 583740369. Resyncing to the next level 1 element.
Resyncing successful at position 584087942.
H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV: Error in the Matroska file structure at position 775978006. Resyncing to the next level 1 element.
Resyncing successful at position 776833055.
H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV: Error in the Matroska file structure at position 793108216. Resyncing to the next level 1 element.
Resyncing successful at position 793250521.
H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV: Error in the Matroska file structure at position 1448150014. Resyncing to the next level 1 element.
MKVMERGE LOG based on 264,AC3,SUP,CHP files created by BD-Rebuilder:
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mkvmerge v5.7.0 ('The Whirlwind') built on Jul  8 2012 20:08:51
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\VID_00023.AVS.264': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'AVC/h.264'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\AUD_00023_4353.AC3': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'AC3'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\00023.track_4609.sup': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'PGSSUP'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\VID_00023.AVS.264' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'AVC/h.264'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\AUD_00023_4353.AC3' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'AC3'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\00023.track_4609.sup' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'PGS'.
The file 'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\Battleship (2012) 720p.h264.ac3.sup.chap.mkv' has been opened for writing.
The cue entries (the index) are being written...
Muxing took 2 minutes 9 seconds.

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If you are doing a full backup, then you don't have to worry about any of it... because the structure will transfer over and work the same. A movie-only uses only one MPLS anyway, so all you have to do is select it.

As for "blanking" or removing the other playlists -- you couldn't "blank" or "remove" any of them anyway -- because they contain pointers to the exact same video that is in the true playback, they are just referenced out of order. I guess if they are unreferenced you could simply dump the MPLS or ignore it -- but in the end you would have the same thing as a full backup anyway.

Removing this kind of stuff accomplishes nothing -- you save no space (because they are referenced elsewhere), you take the chance of screwing up the internal functioning and menuing system, and in the end you get about the same thing as a full backup would have done with a single click. It's like going around the world to get to the other side of the street -- sure it works, but why would you choose that option?
I actual tried the full backup first with this movie. It completed without any errors, but the disk will not play in any blue ray player I have, or on the computer. I read on other boards that other people were having this issue with Hunger Games. I just made a movie only backup and it worked fine. Entire disk gave me a headache...
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Re: MKVs created have corrupt structure

After playing around a bit, I have captured the command line sent to mkvmerge and reproduced the problem at the command line, however if I remove the --default-duration 0:23.976fps parameter from the command line, the resulting file does not appear to be corrupt. I also tried changing the default duration to 0:24000/1001p and that appears to work OK as well. Has anyone else experienced this problem.

Last edited by mayhem2408; 23rd August 2012 at 05:36.
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