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Old 18th May 2020, 17:44   #381  |  Link
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I didn't see this one listed anywhere (although I didn't look that hard) but here's Michael Clayton HDDVD (US)

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76C28577DDC0FE6A5B8841BE1EB08DBABBA5E7E6 = Michael Clayton                                      | D | 2007-11-20 | V | 4964E47A5121C7FC7E65D65F4FEEE108
I'm not sure if it's the combo HDDVD/DVD discs that are going bad with old age or what but this one has a corrupted file for the second part of the main movie. So I was only able to backup half the movie. I tried using a Xbox 360 drive and a LG BD/HDDVD drive. Same results with both.

My other non-combo discs seem to be doing better as this is the first corruption I've found. This disc doesn't appear visually to be bad though...no scratches or anything. It looks brand new. The other poster used the term "de-laminating" but I'm not sure how bad it has to be before it's obvious.

Over the years I only watched this one a couple of times in a standalone Toshiba HDDVD player. The last time I watched it it was okay. I haven't hooked up the Toshiba again to see if it can read the corrupt file or not. Anyway, I'm ripping all my discs before any more go bad.
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Old 18th May 2020, 22:13   #382  |  Link
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Some blu-rays that used to play perfectly start to fail here too.
For one of them a good part of the production batch seems to be affected:
"Der Schuh des Manitu Extra Large".
I bought that disc a few years ago and was happy for 4..5 plays.
Then it started to fail once and forever on a BD-80 and a UDP-205.
No more ripping possible on ASUS BW-16D1HT, Pioneer BDR-209.
Then I bought replacements, 4 in total, only to find that all of these failed.
Too late for ripping for all 5 discs I bought. All of them were squeaky clean, no scratches.
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Old 21st June 2020, 21:16   #383  |  Link
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Evening folks,

let's start with the good part - a few more HD DVD VUKs:


Code:
E963C41FC47BE1E022A5A6F8CB34B2C63DCF63F7 = 2001: A Space Odyssey (EU)                       | D | 2007-08-10 | V | F838959A28C16162DD092167304A46FE
9BBE25E5911EE71E3E9B10AFBD26BC8298FD7AF8 = Arctic Tale (US)                                 | D | 2007-10-16 | V | 8B2AC3C53FCF8CDD781B2C501DCAEB81
B33C551494F71911A9348FB4A6F157172C573B7C = Death Proof (DE)                                 | D | 2007-11-27 | V | 829ECBDE49D7AB5FFDA83F80A994DD92
4AA7726FD26720F83D05DFFC56A9488402D514E0 = Eyes Wide Shut (EU)                              | D | 2007-08-07 | V | AFAA65F31AA2DE999657DB94C9C2569C
C0448D908C8B6D7F4C1F0F891D0F2E36A4AC7D05 = Hotel Babylon S1D1 (UK)                          | D | 2007-08-28 | V | A4307897BBA9D3B58E2E2CF9F983330C
EE7792432F89445160C9DF2CF7F32A81634DF8E3 = Hotel Babylon S1D2 (UK)                          | D | 2007-08-31 | V | 5E9CE78BB2521D1C442A4CFAF042497E
E8815461E1C23788ADFD6955D705ECFBEDABC096 = Hotel Babylon S1D3 (UK)                          | D | 2007-09-01 | V | 2CB277A20C4C7C77E47F87D7ECB4AE01
6131373E2F7887796A7146AFFB72B666D094C8B1 = Lethal Weapon (EU)                               | D | 2006-10-11 | V | 5F1976E3744ACE1CA71D5E497E985D81
7C5E2AAA5ACFE515C75F5A9FC8B8814703508F4C = Manchurian Candidate (EU)                        | D | 2007-07-08 | V | 94B8DE0B859ACCFF504A5D960EE73541
34D97946A566A42256CE38712AC56F3DFFB10A2B = Ocean's 12 (EU)                                  | D | 2007-09-19 | V | DFF26ADFAA5D84B716DBCE59C7C12F19
8A56307619E4CF3D42754386ADF5C35AAFD4B9F1 = Ocean's 13 (EU)                                  | D | 2007-07-09 | V | FD957980F0F852D62A38F2C609FEED30
105F50F69E339801D8D0AA7C309FEF113E07AEF9 = Planet Earth Disc 1 (UK)                         | D | 2007-08-22 | V | CE6B00A657613ED2CF0DE59FD4C3DDE1
FDAAA7B3785B5EEF0E9AC6520D0ABC33F224E988 = Planet Earth Disc 2 (UK)                         | D | 2007-08-22 | V | 26A79DCD32E2C06D19824FAA59219336
3B5688105E442433B3FF575B6D5E5B85E7FB9B80 = Planet Earth Disc 3 (UK)                         | D | 2007-08-22 | V | 2A01E81A39EC031B0F50F4F7F83F6EAA
6A505F51984227B821FA6B05BD967F8A9388EB6D = Planet Earth Disc 4 (UK)                         | D | 2007-08-22 | V | 9B818C9A9B4B761E248A6B95FDF0E1C8
73615BA4CB16EEDCBB3CAA3B7820BB3C267357BF = Planet Earth Disc 5 (UK)                         | D | 2007-08-29 | V | 6D24A8CE53A4D999055C964864FDFB29
BAC61F8EB13B47326A8C8FE353D3A3A1F3C5A1BF = Robin Hood S1D1 (UK)                             | D | 2007-09-06 | V | 7256D1A6CEA75B02DAF2848666798DAB
ACDD798CF882D55F90CAE3CDE0BCF9D724CC0717 = Robin Hood S1D2 (UK)                             | D | 2007-09-11 | V | E8A9791FC93FF4DE367BF0AFBA947CDE
010783894712C55811D97BF342B08B2DACB93EF6 = Robin Hood S1D3 (UK)                             | D | 2007-09-13 | V | A6ECF1E4456A9AC8A90640767733D121
874244AD14701612DBABA9A8554DF18289E092E5 = Robin Hood S1D4 (UK)                             | D | 2007-09-14 | V | 566D7782597D8D515B7ABF1EF57E7A1F
92381644139451312E705D85A28D888C3E6660DA = Shining (EU)                                     | D | 2007-08-16 | V | CD2C5BC7BEE6BDEDD35FDAF07AE075CE
850FCE6E45B2526DF30BCB25542873A7F0F0D7A7 = Shrek the Third (EU)                             | D | 2007-11-07 | V | FFE0938ABE154D8C9AA7BDEF7E355EBD
ED7E509DC6B6820726232962700363E974EC68A9 = Smallville S6D1                                  | D | 2007-07-12 | V | D1598418B7CA8E819EC808B0E75AA645
B96997F7CB7DAAAAC2B7BAB6673ED2DE163D23DC = Smallville S6D3                                  | D | 2007-07-25 | V | 1319A7315BC42AA25951087831A636E9
34E26AA043CAA8441CED0829C98878E4C6E5EC49 = Smallville S6D5                                  | D | 2007-07-20 | V | 033A20B70E658B85FC09836274084A47
1942635DDA94714CB683C5709E51A13535DA3A70 = Stardust (EU)                                    | D | 2007-12-06 | V | EAD11C63F94555FE097C17AE66C3435D
0B2742325C25527F2DCDC87C9BB194546F174D99 = Terminator 2 (DE)                                | D | 2008-02-15 | V | 80E744EAEE18C2FD706F0EE5FB1B695A
EC0C0ECBEC08E6D3D88308236FCDCB0DC1FDA718 = That's Entertainment Part 3                      | D | 2007-10-03 | V | 6018FA45F91D41B54F223D454F5C0560



The bad news covers the increasing amount of HD-DVDs which fail (some are completely unreadable - others give CRC errors).
The discs were stored at room temperature and most were hardly played more than 3 or 4 times.
Is anyone having / or knowing someone with / an electron microscope, as the failing discs look OK to the naked eye?

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Old 2nd January 2021, 08:14   #384  |  Link
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Disc Rot

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The bad news covers the increasing amount of HD-DVDs which fail (some are completely unreadable - others give CRC errors).
The discs were stored at room temperature and most were hardly played more than 3 or 4 times.
Is anyone having / or knowing someone with / an electron microscope, as the failing discs look OK to the naked eye?
I have been dealing with the same thing over here. Most of my Warner Bros. discs have "disc rot" and can no longer be read by any means. It was a pity as my Harry Potter discs could not be ripped for my youngster's enjoyment.

My Universal discs still seem to work fine. Also, my copy of Twister works fine even though it's a WB title. I'm almost convinced the double-sided discs (DVD on one side, HD DVD on the other) are the ones at issue. The Twister disc is case-in-point as it's got a label on one side of the disc, and it's still fine. All of the Universal titles have a label.

EDIT: Just to follow-up, my hypothesis is wrong. I've found a couple of discs with a label that have gone bad. In addition, my copy of Miami Vice (2006) which was still wrapped, had a label on the disc, and a Universal title would not read when attempting to rip (constant fail). I guess we're now seeing why Blu-ray won; I've never had this problem with those pressings (knock wood).

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Old 2nd January 2021, 09:08   #385  |  Link
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More HD DVD VUK

After putting together a Windows 7 VM as a workaround, I was able to get though my HD DVD collection. Here are the keys I confirmed:

Code:
; Titles not on the List Heretofore
65B84CE4477FEBFD22FB378326BE40C60116B79D = Accepted (2006)                                                  | D | 2006-10-18 | V | E4C131EEBF289E9BC1185B24E32A693E
C77B74B0BE596008D89C513E78EDDD4D32997231 = Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004)                     | D | 2007-10-23 | V | 3247FC4BF7F36FA2BED0F32695193237
877F4A05B992BBC4330D2FFE6B3476BC8B09EFE3 = Fletch (1985)                                                    | D | 2007-12-11 | V | 2E2B234B7475C17A268A9DFD5FA73F65
6677F279298A63CC7177326C3D71ABD92DA23E6D = I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry (2007)                         | D | 2007-09-20 | V | 7AD1F1F8556080E09C3945F68822EA61
1EFDE4BF5A8FE04457C818D388DC500DD83087B0 = Into the Wild (2007)                                             | D | 2007-12-21 | V | 9F75D6F5EAD420B58BD5FB684189A8DA
F611CD616D63FC516F99B0F34AF7D4A0657DD84B = Mallrats (1995)                                                  | D | 2007-04-24 | V | 1C774770288EFE6F73D726467BAC977F
01A7C6131219EE701DDE62EDAF8E43CFB480B041 = Meet The Parents (2000)                                          | D | 2006-10-24 | V | 30B4C7998A4439031E6BFDEB0AD85305
4B1731D10CBDE32A92E7CDF249AEB1A56B608B84 = Notting Hill (1999)                                              | D | 2007-06-28 | V | B1D18DD230B0FC66CAB800834BB0C182
747F99CC35E6D597E0D1F0946ECA89547A5E1F46 = Shooter (2007)                                                   | D | 2007-06-01 | V | 49B6B650F6DC3178D0AD4475D8CA2A60
8DB6E2A902C941EF50F19AEF1090E472C9B3279A = The Frighteners (1996)                                           | D | 2007-04-03 | V | 318E4363A5CFFE0CB8C73FAF14480D1B
5EB04FE5AB0A6057DB2799759E38F42A8B53E8CD = The Last Starfighter (1984)                                      | D | 2007-07-17 | V | 4ED82F081824BEE821B27CD1C3347763
CE74BFF9E27DEC91A64F1DECA818C90A335A75ED = The Wedding Date (2005)                                          | D | 2007-05-14 | V | 75EC4AE69A552781D4C82E19C7B59874

; Already on the list; Re-confirmed
A41555566FDA15BAC3C9DD9E52178D388787B67C = 300 (2006)                                                       | D | 2007-06-13 | V | 49BDBC9DB64FD62D5D303660AD527E5F
4ACABE525F5CBF77DAA43EA2B83E04918D5FA6D4 = Apollo 13 (1995)                                                 | D | 2006-04-11 | V | 8BA9C422F93C9B4B4247814530B29C48
E1C5FA2EEFE9E45672B8255AEB1AA52C4F33C4B6 = Backdraft (1991)                                                 | D | 2006-08-02 | V | 569EA6D83DF6BB1657B670537EDD1F6A
45EAD29D8E18F8BDD4C6DE18B96A647AD254BF86 = Blade Runner: 5-Disc Complete Collectors Edition - Disc 1        | D | 2007-10-26 | V | 6C6F89188990CABBF1E0147E3B43E6A5
CA1A9B2C5462A98CAFE19AF8B0322C803053AB7F = Blade Runner: 5-Disc Complete Collectors Edition - Disc 3        | D | 2007-10-17 | V | 4F72FB87022163EEB8B303160DB5D9FE
0A97F5EB2D24BE406B22D94658BD748778DAE8AD = Breach (2007)                                                    | D | 2007-04-18 | V | 62DFA312656EE727C2AE7CED11A41735
E45F5124F7EA96E1807298F3B2E82F07430096B4 = Caddyshack (1980)                                                | D | 2006-07-10 | V | 525816D8A21E2B2A27F2ED36EADCB4C4
900FB4AC5DE8E81BD745B93CFD7E54A72EB51F50 = Casablanca (1942)                                                | D | 2006-09-27 | V | 58317B98998A3B4F17301F2C96602F19
802BDCABC8F1228E6065E7C40F3C0286ED5F24A1 = Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005)                         | D | 2006-08-25 | V | DECE0C824533B2714EEAA3DD2338572B
A11DE76F9360F911C1984C4ABCB5DDC38380E22F = Clerks II (2006) - Disc 1                                        | D | 2007-01-26 | V | B705E62C3FFDA09A2CF37FD5B6B22AC5
103310D10B7BD65F83369DD51081F9432EEDB866 = Clerks II (2006) - Disc 2                                        | D | 2007-01-25 | V | 6CC724030FED50E9EA7AC23E9A298F71
6F5620E0D8FE645CB4EC9BAD371EC8F994916D54 = Constantine (2005)                                               | D | 2006-05-11 | V | 6FC6ACCF3DA5C835C8988905BDAAFC49
4B0F1BE73420614533AACB5BF166EF17354EB482 = Dune (1984)                                                      | D | 2006-10-18 | V | 1C2B3D1AF02E5ED54F6F598ABE57B596
E1BCB5BAC81802AC5B354350C6F847DAA2669911 = Field of Dreams (1989)                                           | D | 2006-10-17 | V | B34D7E643E0840A873FB9FF6939B1706
525968BA675335745CD1D5D7DE100A6A7E902040 = Four Brothers (2005)                                             | D | 2006-05-15 | V | 77A9E01B69AC2920D4B7D16D804EEC4E
31DD55860716BD202460E7986C2B8AEC1381E7AC = Hot Fuzz (2007)                                                  | D | 2007-06-25 | V | C890CEBBCB7AEC226DF5D2F5DE5B93F8
AF776AD43AD0FFD57C6DAF60C2A32761CE8A8093 = How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000)                            | D | 2006-10-13 | V | 2F7D9F06C94DCE829E6DC375D9BB91E3
5F44C8BE488409A5626BFE5E5B9F308C8819379F = Hulk (2003)                                                      | D | 2006-11-06 | V | 0D59807BBAEDF8388665D19328D07A76
A14D5F731B4A11524EF17BDED1B6FA0ED6B88B34 = Lady in the Water (2006)                                         | D | 2006-10-19 | V | DFCFFF93F0DA12BF8284D45B2779F704
E8A8ECDD82677217C62A6C14F0C4CA65B5D554A0 = Lucky Number Slevin (2006)                                       | D | 2006-11-16 | V | B6F045C670ED045F036138E81BC3EF4D
B72EC80F68DC59D7EECDFE2978CA2008AC8A1D26 = Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (1983)                        | D | 2007-04-18 | V | FB7DE95B0A8978946DCB5106D04EA389
2FA2C28777CCBC95BE830960FAB0D300C13A89F4 = Old School (2003)                                                | D | 2007-10-29 | V | 6108B36F03F0A7258A06D72A82F9D6FA
5E2A8A2BCC5BB759E095001907B437D0511F4B4F = Payback (1999)                                                   | D | 2007-01-25 | V | 504114783C084C72299A79C7E3BC2CEC
1293F65B7783F6CFB72C98B823406BEA8F1C6A79 = Seabiscuit (2003)                                                | D | 2006-08-11 | V | CB80ED484539ABEBA0C12DC6434296EF
D540A7ED4596F596C526F16346B8D2DB8B167DE1 = Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004)                     | D | 2006-05-26 | V | B5DC3F3948357D941A5FADBB12F1078D
4BC86F62BD6088386C83848186F88EB3E53140C1 = Sleepy Hollow (1999)                                             | D | 2006-05-25 | V | 793DB05A97EED67892E2DE57CD30A64F
5D12DC8F3566AA920D475826E8E39B60E95E8725 = Smokin' Aces (2006)                                              | D | 2007-03-14 | V | 0BCDCD4956FEBBEC6908B0378857CA39
6A6FBB8B8FD603267FF3543736F2312702D8618F = Stardust (2007)                                                  | D | 2007-10-30 | V | DD7A065F94102C9197CA9B179837C842
17C8312A7BEA25A08606F118AD265FD657161D0D = Superman Returns (2006)                                          | D | 2006-10-18 | V | EC2EC7F847F6D304B3C26F121CA578DA
B2B179C6538AC75F2A8E3E320E9433FB34E02F69 = Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003)                        | D | 2006-07-19 | V | B77D162C4D3C9D96580100F46FD8A37C
6579FD90E759D791EB8B762055617A911D23F7C9 = The 40-Year-Old Virgin (2005)                                    | D | 2007-04-09 | V | 422872C1B79215491A9E42FBB163B4B1
734D835A8DC1B4E1A554A1C731EF1E318B2E34AE = The Big Lebowski (1998)                                          | D | 2007-05-07 | V | 6AAF4B15EEAAD25867194C206BD280E7
E85F5C9B463908DB3889E923AF124FEFECCB85FA = The Bourne Identity (2002)                                       | D | 2007-06-12 | V | 0FCD260FCD7689F38F3EFFCE3C4D631A
FAA60223A5381CBE6A0D50165F696A001BE1F998 = The Bourne Supremacy (2004)                                      | D | 2006-05-09 | V | AB1B3436F522FBEB9D3370F711DA3488
411E01E319D4A68B3F951A82D3A0AE2C6E5C3B18 = The Bourne Ultimatum (2007)                                      | D | 2007-10-25 | V | 31B3398F3206F995A92E595EBB45140E
03F83893C85DA1A1CD02105D25C15B761E5DBCB0 = The Italian Job (2003)                                           | D | 2006-06-08 | V | A6C782EA71F6526881DD93FD8DAEA8BB
A85B0043201474AC56794EA4AAE2C35577752FB3 = The Mummy (1999)                                                 | D | 2006-10-11 | V | D6984C6B80D56F96CAE369474345E2B9
C0CE9F03CE1CACF82C248FF9D209C6F0D0228AF5 = The Mummy Returns (2001)                                         | D | 2006-12-12 | V | 097E4FA0C22FEC82B9E15D9EE960856A
110E197928EEA2AD485120C335AC3BAF56F2E8CA = The Scorpion King (2002)                                         | D | 2006-11-14 | V | BFBBB7C93BD9BF842F1F7784749A321F
6090A834E0DD88767313598A60B69C3C18F58880 = The Thing (1982)                                                 | D | 2006-08-31 | V | 92DB3460463F2EAA764E4C9A391BE395
E3C1F0547DCD4AB4F16628B26F79D42701FCD39D = Twister (1996)                                                   | D | 2007-09-24 | V | CDBAE88E2CF18A5E0731EBFD0BE89D69
3D378CED7721EDE58DBC4589FF28CACD7904EF11 = U-571 (2000)                                                     | D | 2006-05-01 | V | F4A1910CCD8C19E5E4A3431F9CF7B578
87A660A656EDD1E07F66DB1A7DE594028A9587E2 = V for Vendetta (2005)                                            | D | 2006-09-05 | V | AE196597E6A87A04AE6A24655990A4A6

Last edited by metaldave2003; 3rd January 2021 at 04:29. Reason: Added the balance of VUK from my collection.
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