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Old 18th October 2020, 06:10   #30101  |  Link
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You have to rename it to "tsmuxer4k.exe" and then copy it to the BD-RB TOOLS folder. I gave it that name to distinguish it from the older version of TSMUXER (v2.6.12) which is still present in the TOOLS folder.
Thanks, all now understood. I went ahead and tried the newest version, but it still produces m2ts files with missing or corrupted audio when played directly in Windows with VLC or J.River media centre etc. With the old 2.6.12 version, all played perfectly.

After doing some further experiments, I may have found something of use.

Using TsmuxerGUI, I noticed a difference in the meta files produced by the old and new versions. The new Tsmuxer has the extra parameter, "--hdmv-descriptors" included in the first line.
E.g. "MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --hdmv-descriptors --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500".

Next I used the command line TsMuxer (newest) to produce muxes using .meta files both with and without --hdmv-descriptors. The one without had the sound issues previously mentioned, but the one with it played perfectly. I tried this test again with the old Tsmuxer but this time both were fine. I expected this, as the help info only mentions this new parameter in the newest versions.

Looking in the BDRB Workfiles folder, the Mux_000xx.meta does not contain the --hdmv-descriptors entry, even though 2.6.16 was enabled.
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Old 18th October 2020, 14:15   #30102  |  Link
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Thanks, all now understood. I went ahead and tried the newest version, but it still produces m2ts files with missing or corrupted audio when played directly in Windows with VLC or J.River media centre etc. With the old 2.6.12 version, all played perfectly.

After doing some further experiments, I may have found something of use.

Using TsmuxerGUI, I noticed a difference in the meta files produced by the old and new versions. The new Tsmuxer has the extra parameter, "--hdmv-descriptors" included in the first line.
E.g. "MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --hdmv-descriptors --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500".

Next I used the command line TsMuxer (newest) to produce muxes using .meta files both with and without --hdmv-descriptors. The one without had the sound issues previously mentioned, but the one with it played perfectly. I tried this test again with the old Tsmuxer but this time both were fine. I expected this, as the help info only mentions this new parameter in the newest versions.

Looking in the BDRB Workfiles folder, the Mux_000xx.meta does not contain the --hdmv-descriptors entry, even though 2.6.16 was enabled.
Interesting. I'll do some research on that parameter and, if appropriate, I'll add it in the next release.

Thanks for the info!

[Edit] Couldn't find any discussion as to why that parameter was added, or why it was needed. It's easy to add, and the old TSMUXER version seems to not care if it is there. But I don't want to just add it until I know the consequences. Does anyone have any background on this parameter?

[Edit] Ok, I found some discussion in the TSMUXER Open Source thread and some of the change notes. I'll add that parameter to the next release.
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Old 18th October 2020, 17:03   #30103  |  Link
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Working -

"C:\vidsoft\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "L:\UHDBD\FLASH_GORDON_-_4K_UHD\BDMV\STREAM\02001.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset performance --bluray --qp-min 0 --multipass 2pass-full --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 20 --aq-temporal --keyfile "E:\WORK\FIXEDCRF\WORKFILES\VID_02001.CHP" --sar 1:1 --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --max-bitrate 35000 --gop-len 24 -o "E:\WORK\FIXEDCRF\WORKFILES\VID_02001.AVS.264"

Not working -

"C:\vidsoft\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "L:\UHDBD\FLASH_GORDON_-_4K_UHD\BDMV\STREAM\02001.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset quality --bluray --qp-min 0 --vbr 11056 --aq-temporal --keyfile "B:\WORK\DG\WORKFILES\VID_02001.CHP" --sar 1:1 --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --max-bitrate 35000 --gop-len 24 -o "B:\WORK\DG\WORKFILES\VID_02001.AVS.264"

Difference: EDIT: NEVER MIND Just remembered I encoded the working one with Very fast setting so that is of course the difference with the preset. --preset quality vs. performance - Strange if this is it as the quality parameter should be better.

--multipass 2pass-full is absent in the non working one. Should it be there?

Otherwise the only difference I can see is the constant quality mode switch witch shouldn't have anything to do with it.

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Old 18th October 2020, 22:54   #30104  |  Link
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.....One thing I noticed was that my test extras clip had a bitrate of ~7000kbit instead of ~4000 kbit.

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"C:\vidsoft\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw  -i "L:\UHDBD\FLASH_GORDON_-_4K_UHD\BDMV\STREAM\02001.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset performance --bluray --qp-min 0 --multipass 2pass-full --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 20 --aq-temporal --keyfile "E:\WORK\FIXEDCRF\WORKFILES\VID_02001.CHP" --sar 1:1 --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --max-bitrate 35000 --gop-len 24 -o "E:\WORK\FIXEDCRF\WORKFILES\VID_02001.AVS.264"
Yes, of course. According to your commandline (marked red) you encoded it with a CQM of 20 rather than about 23 as before. Hence the bitrate increased from about 4000 to 7000kbps.
And you shouldn't worry much about the --multipass 2pass-full. Slower presets include it silently and it is actually no longer needed explicitly. If it is still there it does no harm though. It's a legacy. Maybe you should update your NVIDIA drivers.

Edit: And btw. your "Not working" was a bitrate (--vbr 1105) rather than a quality based (--vbr 0 --vbr-quality 20) encode.

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Old 18th October 2020, 23:06   #30105  |  Link
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Does it have a forced Portuguese subtitle? It only works to select from the list of subs that actually contain forced subs within them.

If you want a set of subtitle to be turned on by default (as opposed to selecting from forced subs) you can right click on a sub in the streams list and set it to default on.
Nops.

The MKV have only the audio tracks.

This sub come from a ".srt" on same folder of MKV when I import MKV.

Ok, not a problem mux with MKV merge and set "por" on sub...

But, I will make a tv show with 30 mkvs where .srt files will be on the same folder.

Any way to set this external sub as portuguese?

Maybe make .sup files? bdrebuilder import .sup files like .srt on the same folder?
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Old 19th October 2020, 09:15   #30106  |  Link
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Hi zamengo,

according to <HIDDENOPTS.txt> there's a setting
Code:
IMPORT_SRT_LANG=s	s = language code, sets default language for independently imported SRT files Default=eng
I suggest to paste
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IMPORT_SRT_LANG=por
(or IMPORT_SRT_LANG=pt) into your BDREBUILDER.INI and try that.

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Old 19th October 2020, 22:46   #30107  |  Link
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BD Rebuilder v0.61.18

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent version of BD-RB (v0.61.18). Changes for this release:
Code:
- Corrected an issue in which ALTERNATE 3D 
  SBS sources could not be encoded in NVENCC 
  mode.
- Added TWEAK_ALTERNATE_NV as a new hidden
  option. See HIDDENOPTS.TXT.
- Added mBitrate option to ALTERNATE.TXT.
  This allows you to set a maximum bitrate
  and VBV buffer size for ALTERNATE encode
  presets specified in ALTERNATE.TXT. Only
  applies to cTypes 1 (MKV) and 5 (MP4).
- Added the --hdmv-descriptors to the TSMUXER
  meta file when appropriate to correct for
  issues associated with the new version of
  TSMUXER.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.
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Old 20th October 2020, 03:35   #30108  |  Link
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Hi zamengo,

according to <HIDDENOPTS.txt> there's a setting
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IMPORT_SRT_LANG=s	s = language code, sets default language for independently imported SRT files Default=eng
I suggest to paste
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IMPORT_SRT_LANG=por
(or IMPORT_SRT_LANG=pt) into your BDREBUILDER.INI and try that.

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Old 20th October 2020, 04:09   #30109  |  Link
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Interesting. I'll do some research on that parameter and, if appropriate, I'll add it in the next release.

Thanks for the info!

[Edit] Couldn't find any discussion as to why that parameter was added, or why it was needed. It's easy to add, and the old TSMUXER version seems to not care if it is there. But I don't want to just add it until I know the consequences. Does anyone have any background on this parameter?

[Edit] Ok, I found some discussion in the TSMUXER Open Source thread and some of the change notes. I'll add that parameter to the next release.
That's great. I've download the new BDRB and can confirm that all audio tracks are now playing just fine in the various PC players.
I found a little more about the new hdmv descriptors parameter from the help info within TSmuxer itself. It states the following:

"--hdmv-descriptors" "Use HDMV descriptors instead of ITU-T H.222.0 | ISO/IEC 13818-1 descriptors. Activated automatically for BD muxing." (My bold)

Clearly it wasn't activated automatically in the non GUI TsMuxer. When that parameter was not specified, PCM and Dolby TrueHD soundtracks would fail to play in most PC media players.
Many thanks for the quick update of BDRB.

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Old 20th October 2020, 14:12   #30110  |  Link
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- Added TWEAK_ALTERNATE_NV as a new hidden
option. See HIDDENOPTS.TXT.
jdobbs, I added this in the BDREBUILDER.INI file:
TWEAK_ALTERNATE_NV=--vbv-maxrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000
The video failed to encode.

----------------------
[14:41:17] Importing MKV: UNCUT_GEMS
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[14:47:50] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[10/20/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.18
[14:57:41] Source: UNCUT_GEMS_00000
- Input BD size: 38,81 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:15:08.141]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:57:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:57:41] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [14:57:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:00:36] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 194 401 frames
- [15:00:36] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
[15:00:36] - Failed video encode, aborted

LASTCMD: "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "G:\BDRB_WORK\IMPORTS\UNCUT_GEMS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset quality --bluray --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 20 --aq-temporal --keyfile "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 15000 --max-bitrate 15000 --gop-len 48 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000 -o "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

What am I doing wrong here?
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Old 20th October 2020, 15:06   #30111  |  Link
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What error do you get if you run that command line from a CMD window?
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I deleted the line TWEAK_ALTERNATE_NV=--vbv-maxrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000 in the .INI file
and added mBitrate=50000 in the ALTERNATE.TXT
It looks like this:
[00010]
caption=MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
vBitrate=1941
aBitrate=640
aType=0
vFormat=5
cType=1
mBitrate=50000

BDRebuilder works now, so it was my mistake.

But the max bitrate output, after encoding, was 40000.
So 40000 is the maximum value for NVEnc encodings, I guess.

General
Unique ID : 221187679920445539249478065391758479108 (0xA66732967E11292A8F44EFAAC7500F04)
Complete name : G:\BDRB_Work\UNCUT_GEMS.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 15.2 GiB
Duration : 2 h 15 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 16.1 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-10-20 13:45:50
Writing application : mkvmerge v9.7.1 ('Pandemonium') 32bit
Writing library : libebml v1.3.4 + libmatroska v1.4.5

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=4, N=24
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2 h 15 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 15.4 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (23976/1000) FPS
Original frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.310
Stream size : 14.6 GiB (96%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
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Old 20th October 2020, 15:17   #30113  |  Link
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What error do you get if you run that command line from a CMD window?
Excuse me, jdobbs. I read your message too late.
BDRebuilder didn't really give an CMD window error.
Just: "Failed video encode, aborted"

I changed in the ALTERNATE.TXT file mBitrate to 40000. Alright for you?

[00010]
caption=MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
vBitrate=1941
aBitrate=640
aType=0
vFormat=5
cType=1
mBitrate=40000

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Old 20th October 2020, 16:04   #30114  |  Link
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Excuse me, jdobbs. I read your message too late.
BDRebuilder didn't really give an CMD window error.
Just: "Failed video encode, aborted"

I changed in the ALTERNATE.TXT file mBitrate to 40000. Alright for you?

[00010]
caption=MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
vBitrate=1941
aBitrate=640
aType=0
vFormat=5
cType=1
mBitrate=40000
The window is hidden when BD-RB runs it. But you can open a CMD window (after it fails) and cut/paste the contents of LASTCMD into it (and push ENTER). Then you would be able to see the whatever error message occurs.

Not sure why it got limited to 40Mbs. Is that what is showing in LASTCMD? I thought that maybe the Level 4.1 had done it -- but I looked it up and it has a limit of 50Mbs. It's possible, I guess, that I missed something in the code.
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Old 20th October 2020, 17:37   #30115  |  Link
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The window is hidden when BD-RB runs it. But you can open a CMD window (after it fails) and cut/paste the contents of LASTCMD into it (and push ENTER). Then you would be able to see the whatever error message occurs.

Not sure why it got limited to 40Mbs. Is that what is showing in LASTCMD? I thought that maybe the Level 4.1 had done it -- but I looked it up and it has a limit of 50Mbs. It's possible, I guess, that I missed something in the code.

LASTCMD which worked, but it had, according to MediaInfo, a max bitrate of 40000. 40000 I can live with that.
"C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "G:\BDRB_WORK\IMPORTS\UNCUT_GEMS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset quality --bluray --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 20 --aq-temporal --keyfile "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 50000 --max-bitrate 50000 --gop-len 24 -o "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

LASTCMD which did not work. I think there is something wrong with this one. Twice vbv-bufsize (15000 and 50000) and twice max-rate (15000 and 50000)
"C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "G:\BDRB_WORK\IMPORTS\UNCUT_GEMS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset quality --bluray --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 20 --aq-temporal --keyfile "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 15000 --max-bitrate 15000 --gop-len 48 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000 -o "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

My conclusion: do not add "TWEAK_ALTERNATE_NV=--vbv-maxrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000" in the BDREBUILDER.INI. Add "mBitrate=50000" in the ALTERNATE.TXT
Am I correct?
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Can the 40 Mbs be caused by --vbr-quality 20
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Can the 40 Mbs be caused by --vbr-quality 20
I guess its possible -- but I can't imagine why.
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LASTCMD which worked, but it had, according to MediaInfo, a max bitrate of 40000. 40000 I can live with that.
"C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "G:\BDRB_WORK\IMPORTS\UNCUT_GEMS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset quality --bluray --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 20 --aq-temporal --keyfile "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 50000 --max-bitrate 50000 --gop-len 24 -o "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

LASTCMD which did not work. I think there is something wrong with this one. Twice vbv-bufsize (15000 and 50000) and twice max-rate (15000 and 50000)
"C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "G:\BDRB_WORK\IMPORTS\UNCUT_GEMS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset quality --bluray --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 20 --aq-temporal --keyfile "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 15000 --max-bitrate 15000 --gop-len 48 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000 -o "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

My conclusion: do not add "TWEAK_ALTERNATE_NV=--vbv-maxrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000" in the BDREBUILDER.INI. Add "mBitrate=50000" in the ALTERNATE.TXT
Am I correct?
Unlike x264, NVEncC doesn't support '--vbv-maxrate' as I understand.
It's '--max-bitrate' only for NVEncC.

One should however not have to worry about the duplication of parameters. The last ones just overrule the former ones AFAIK.

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Unlike x264, NVEncC doesn't support '--vbv-maxrate' as I understand.
It's '--max-bitrate' only for NVEncC.

One should however not have to worry about the duplication of parameters. The last ones just overrule the former ones AFAIK.
Wow. Good catch. When I read that post I missed that completely. That's the reason his "TWEAK_ALTERNATE_NV" settings didn't take hold (and probably why the command line failed).
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Can the 40 Mbs be caused by --vbr-quality 20
Did it with CRF 18 now. Same result. max bitrate of 40000
mBitrate=50000 in de alterternate.txt file.
No TWEAK_ALTERNATE_NV in the BDREBUILDER.ini file.

LASTCMD.TEXT: "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw -i "G:\BDRB_WORK\IMPORTS\UNCUT_GEMS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts" --codec h264 --preset quality --bluray --vbr 0 --vbr-quality 18 --aq-temporal --keyfile "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 50000 --max-bitrate 50000 --gop-len 24 -o "G:\BDRB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"
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