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12th May 2019, 12:51 | #56204 | Link |
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Preserved in most cases, yes. In some movies they've done really stupid things and attempted to add film grain to make it feel more like film. I can't think of it off the top of my head but I encountered one of them recently and it was very distracting.
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12th May 2019, 14:05 | #56206 | Link |
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The CPU wasn't for madvr. My 3770k machine developed a bad Mobo and the whole machine had to be upgraded. And I don't like upgrading often so I tend to go all out when I do. I completely agree that the 9900k is overkill for madvr.
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12th May 2019, 14:13 | #56207 | Link |
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I think that depends.
The grain is indeed "preserved" if we're talking about a movie shot on actual film stock that's being digitally scanned afterwards. With more recent movies, mostly shot with digital cameras, grain is often added in post-production to achieve a film look. I don't really mind (I like "organic" dirty looking pictures) unless the filmmakers turns the knob to 11.
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During full UHD iso playback, Cpu utilization (total) hovers around 70% in this config I wouldn't recommend this unless it's a dedicated machine though, because if some other app kicks on in the background, this thing Will-Stutter.
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12th May 2019, 15:00 | #56212 | Link |
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It'd have to be a high side 6 series i5 @ 4.3ghz and above for Full-fat 4k.
For sandy bridge gen i-series, w/ AVX, it has to be ~4.7ghz Avx 2 is unnecessary. But you wouldn't upgrade CPU Just For madvr, that's a waste, because a faster GPU can do more for the Same increase in money spent..
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12th May 2019, 16:09 | #56213 | Link |
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AVX2 is very important for decoding and gives serious IPC gains and is used a lot in the past years: http://www.redaktion.tu-berlin.de/fi...n/chi2015b.pdf
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12th May 2019, 16:41 | #56214 | Link |
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I watch UHD movies downscaled to 1080p tone mapped to 200 nits with madVR, but even with downscaling I've noticed that film grain/digital noise is much less aesthetically pleasing than in any 1080 Blu-ray I've seen. Don't know if it's because of HDR or the better source definition or something else but it looks more like artifacts than grain or camera read noise (which usually doesn't bother me).But if you're using GPU decode for the codecs that are supported now, then this would only be useful for AV1 while there is no fixed function hardware support. If it will be really useful or not all depends on how often you upgrade your GPU.
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I'm like you, I don't upgrade my mobo/chassis very often. I built this system in 2011 and I have upgraded many components since (RAM, SSD, CPU, GPU). The mobo has been rock solid apart from a few SATA and USB ports disintegrating over time. Hopefully it will hold until I can get a MOBO with a PCI-E standard for the next 10 years, possibly with a GPU with HDMI 2.1... It's still not a bottleneck for madVR and my 1080ti, so fingers crossed it will last a bit longer...
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12th May 2019, 18:35 | #56217 | Link | |
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I'd been putting this upgrade off a while. The machine has had stability issues for a couple years now and the usual troubleshooting did not determine the issue. I even put it in a new case/power supply and the issues continued. Turns out it was an intermittently bad DIMM slot causing random (and I mean RANDOM) reboots under medium and heavy loads. Super hard to diagnose. At that point it became imperative to replace the mobo, cpu, and ram. The upgrade was planned a year ago but I got distracted with my UHD upgrade first, and then getting laid off 7 months ago. But now that I have a new job I wanted to get this thing fixed and upgraded first thing. I think I built a little monster that should last a while.
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12th May 2019, 21:14 | #56220 | Link |
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Yes, possibly when those old movies were released we didn't witness that grain in the cinemas as the 35mm projection prints always lose quality compared to the negatives, so it just may be the first time we actually encounter it and it looks weird to us.
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