BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[m.rup]

Hi, since the first time I am using this wonderful application (thanks, jdobbs!) it is not very friendly to languages other than english. That means, even though I have selected german and english in the setup, languages to keep, BD Rebuilder always is keeping english language only and discarding german language, so I have to activate german language manually before encode (and, believe me, for the BD 'Cars' this takes some minutes...) Nevertheless, up to version 3406 I think, I could do it this way, but since I upgraded to version 3407 and 3601, german audio tracks are completely ignored, even when I have selected them manually. All the other stuff (menus, legal warnings, and so on) is in german language, but it's not possible to chose german audio track in the language menu, it feels as if the german language tracks all have been removed.

BD is 'Cars', region 'B', ripped with DVD Fab versions 8005 up to 8032.

Any ideas what this could be?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Giljorak

Thanks for the DVD output option. I just did a BD25 to DVD5 re-encode of Toy Story 3. There are a few of things I noticed.
1. The target BD size says 22.90 GB.
2. The final output was only 4.06 GB (4,367,894,528 bytes) in size.
3. Would it be possible to have the HCencoder window visible while the re-encode is happening?

...

Thanks for the awesome application.

1. I've removed the target size log line when outputting to DVD.

2. I'll review the output size calculator. It should be outputting 4.20GB.

3. You can add "SHOW_ENCODER=1" to the INI file to show HC Encoder.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by m.rup

Hi, since the first time I am using this wonderful application (thanks, jdobbs!) it is not very friendly to languages other than english. That means, even though I have selected german and english in the setup, languages to keep, BD Rebuilder always is keeping english language only and discarding german language, so I have to activate german language manually before encode (and, believe me, for the BD 'Cars' this takes some minutes...) Nevertheless, up to version 3406 I think, I could do it this way, but since I upgraded to version 3407 and 3601, german audio tracks are completely ignored, even when I have selected them manually. All the other stuff (menus, legal warnings, and so on) is in german language, but it's not possible to chose german audio track in the language menu, it feels as if the german language tracks all have been removed.

BD is 'Cars', region 'B', ripped with DVD Fab versions 8005 up to 8032.

Any ideas what this could be?

It treats all languages exactly the same and the exact same code is executed for all. The difference is probably that there are two different ISO codes in use for German (DEU and GER) -- make sure you select both ot them in SETUP.

Also -- make sure the tracks are actually still there after ripping.

[MilesAhead]

Thanks for the dvd output option. I did a few runs using dvd5 output and got sizes consistent with the other poster's note. In the range 4.0 to 4.06 GB as shown by Explorer. I did one with dvd9 output and got a folder size about 5.2 GB for a 90 minute film. The results all looked good. No audio sync or other issues. On one run I burned in forced subs using the avs filter options. All came out fine. The conversions all completed on my quad within the run time of the films. Which is great. Thanks again.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by MilesAhead

Thanks for the dvd output option. I did a few runs using dvd5 output and got sizes consistent with the other poster's note. In the range 4.0 to 4.06 GB as shown by Explorer. I did one with dvd9 output and got a folder size about 5.2 GB for a 90 minute film. The results all looked good. No audio sync or other issues. On one run I burned in forced subs using the avs filter options. All came out fine. The conversions all completed on my quad within the run time of the films. Which is great. Thanks again.

The 5.2GB DVD-9 output is due to the maximum video bitrate limitations of DVD. I use an average bitrate of no more than 8500 Kbs and a maximum (peak) rate of 9000 Kbs to ensure there is room for audio and VBR adjustment. 90 minutes isn't long enough to fill a DVD-9.

I'm not sure why the DVD-5 size is so small. I must be calculating something wrong.

[k-c-ksum]

is there an option to use DTS core audio rather than encode the dtshd down to ac3? I know its possible in tsmuxer but cant see that option in bdrb, or am i missing somthing?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by k-c-ksum

is there an option to use DTS core audio rather than encode the dtshd down to ac3? I know its possible in tsmuxer but cant see that option in bdrb, or am i missing somthing?

Yes, you can use DTS core -- assuming you're not attempting to write to BD-5 or 9 and have Strict AVCHD selected (contrary to what some well-intended but less-informed folks might say -- DTS is not AVCHD compliant). Read the audio information post in the Frequently Asked Questions sticky for specifics.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by camj1970

I am but a novice in this you are the expert and the coder. All I can report is what I have observed in my use of the product, which I am a big fan of.

Every one of my Disney Blu-rays have the same problem. I will do a little more investigation to try and isolate the problem.

Well, after several attempts I've decided the problem has to be on your end somewhere. Maybe your playback CODEC? I did several discs, the lastest being "Toy Story 3", and can't repeat the issue. They all work perfectly on my standalone player.

[m.rup]

Hi jdobbs, thanks for your advice.

there are two different ISO codes in use for German (DEU and GER) -- make sure you select both ot them in SETUP.

You where absolutely right, shame on me, I didn't notice the second ISO code in setup.

Also -- make sure the tracks are actually still there after ripping.

I am an absolute newbie in terms of blu ray, how can I do this?

Anyways, I will run a new encode with the new setup and see what will happen.
Many thanks again.

[Shuttle99]

jdobbs,
not sure what changed 36.01 but something has changed for the worse, I have tried 36.01 on two movies dvd5 and dvd9 on both movies neither play on my panasonic player where they have all played up to version 35.01. I did them both over with 35.01 and they work fine using 35.01. Not sure if the logs will help you let me know if I can send them to you.

Thanks,
Shuttle99

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Shuttle99

jdobbs,
not sure what changed 36.01 but something has changed for the worse, I have tried 36.01 on two movies dvd5 and dvd9 on both movies neither play on my panasonic player where they have all played up to version 35.01. I did them both over with 35.01 and they work fine using 35.01. Not sure if the logs will help you let me know if I can send them to you.

Thanks,
Shuttle99

There was no change that could affect that except possibly the X264 update. Almost all the updates were to ALTERNATE output (which is a different module). I guess you could try v36.01 with the old X264 version. Are you sure you're using the same settings on both (especially the "Strict AVCHD" setting)?

[k-c-ksum]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Yes, you can use DTS core -- assuming you're not attempting to write to BD-5 or 9 and have Strict AVCHD selected (contrary to what some well-intended but less-informed folks might say -- DTS is not AVCHD compliant). Read the audio information post in the Frequently Asked Questions sticky for specifics.

thanks, so un tick keep hd audio and tick dont convert dts to ac3 and im good to go? dts hdma on tv shows is over kill imo and the fact that there is normally a ton of video on each disc then i think its worth the audio hit for some video bitrate

[Shuttle99]

I don't use and have never used the "strict AVCHD for BD-5/9" since you have incorporated USE X264's internal LAVF I have benn using that and it has been working flawlessly. I will copy over the x264 from 35.01 to 36.01 and run another tonight and try it in the morning and let you know. I opened the settings window in each version so I made sure I had them the same since they have been working great.

[MilesAhead]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

The 5.2GB DVD-9 output is due to the maximum video bitrate limitations of DVD. I use an average bitrate of no more than 8500 Kbs and a maximum (peak) rate of 9000 Kbs to ensure there is room for audio and VBR adjustment. 90 minutes isn't long enough to fill a DVD-9.

I'm not sure why the DVD-5 size is so small. I must be calculating something wrong.

I'm just taking a shot in the dark but I notice in the log it shows 640 kbit for audio even though the actual output is 448 dvd compliant ac3. That may skew it a bit undersized if the calc is assuming 640 kbit.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by MilesAhead

I'm just taking a shot in the dark but I notice in the log it shows 640 kbit for audio even though the actual output is 448 dvd compliant ac3. That may skew it a bit undersized if the calc is assuming 640 kbit.

I think I'd adjusted for that -- but I'll check it. Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by k-c-ksum

thanks, so un tick keep hd audio and tick dont convert dts to ac3 and im good to go? dts hdma on tv shows is over kill imo and the fact that there is normally a ton of video on each disc then i think its worth the audio hit for some video bitrate

Yes, and if your output is DVD-5/9, also uncheck "Strict AVCHD".

[Pifcan]

I tried twice to backup ' How to train your dragon ', but no audio at all, the video is perfect!!!!
Here are my settings:
[14:45:14] BD Rebuilder v0.36.01 (beta)
- Source: HOW_TO_TRAIN_YOUR_DRA
- Input BD size: 24.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:37:51.031]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:45:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:45:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [14:59:27] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [14:59:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 140,764 frames
- Bitrate: 9,174 Kbs
- [14:59:27] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:41:52] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:26:04] Video Encode complete
- [21:26:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:26:13] Multiplexing M2TS
[21:30:05]PHASE ONE complete
[21:30:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:30:05] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[00:12:31] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:12:31] BURNING BD structure to disc
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[00:52:00]JOB: HOW_TO_TRAIN_YOUR_DRA finished.



[Status]
LABEL=HOW_TO_TRAIN_YOUR_DRA
VERSION=v0.36.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=26494371840
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=26494371840
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.317884963752362
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00010]
AUDIO=1100000
PGS=1010000000
M2TS_TARGET=8422162432
RATE=9174
NSTART=27000000
NEND=291194553
NSIZE=7064322048
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


[Options]
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUTO_BURN=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=fra;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=J:\
WORKING_PATH=C:\WORKING\

[Shuttle99]

jdobbs, I copied over the x264 from 35.01 to 36.01 and tried it again and it did not work. I am trying it again with strict AVCHD on and will let you know how that goes when it is done. They do play normal on the computer but the panasonic player does not like some thing that has changed in 36.01. I did notice a new file in the 36.01 tools directory HCencoder.exe not sure if it is being used in 36.01 and is causing it not to play?

Thanks,
Shuttle99

[m.rup]

Anyways, I will run a new encode with the new setup and see what will happen.

Encode is finished, and it is perfect! So I come to the conclusion that there must have been some changes in the code which latterly prevent BD Rebuilder from taking a language into consideration if this language is not selected in the setup. Shouldn't it be possible to override the settings from the setup manually? In earlier versions it worked this way, but not in the latest versions (I tried three or four times). Maybe this is a phenomenon limited to german language which has two ISO codes, but, as already mentioned, it worked in earlier versions.

[gamete]

- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting

how to fix?